41 years old Klitschko vs 38 years old Ortiz - who is a better fighter?

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  • Sheldon312
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    #111
    Originally posted by Redd Foxx
    You ***ed yourself in the very first sentence. Look at the Jennings fights. They fought the same guy not long ago and Ortiz finished him while Wlad looked timid and hesitant. If you want to make quality comparisons, that's your best one right there.

    You also seem to want to bring up resume. We're not debating where they were 5 or 10 years ago. We're talking about the last year and even though I'm a fan of Wlad, he faded hard after the Pulev fight.

    I'd confidently pick Ortiz over Wlad of the past 3 years. I'd pick prime Wlad over any version of Ortiz though.
    So Vlad hasn't beaten better fighters than Ortiz? I'm pretty sure prime Peter's beats Ortiz easily

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    • Chrismart
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      #112
      I'd take the Wlad that lost to Joshua over Ortiz for sure.

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      • Tom Cruise
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        #113
        Originally posted by Chrismart
        I'd take the Wlad that lost to Joshua over Ortiz for sure.
        I think everyone would, except yanks on here for some reason.

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        • chrisJS
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          #114
          Originally posted by CLUE
          One has been figured out before, knocked down multiple times, KO'ed before, coming off a loss, on the decline, and was on a two year lay off.

          vs

          A guy who is a undefended fighter, who has never been figured out, and is the most technical HW in the division.
          But also a guy that was close to 40 and was never good enough to win a world title in a weak era.

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            #115
            Originally posted by GGGthaGOAT
            Klitschko, and the only reason it's even debatable is because he looked god awful against Fury and was over a year removed from his last fight.
            Yeah but that is something though which is undeniable and Ortiz looked pretty good to me nearly winning last night. Had he won last night then would it still be undebatable? I think no.

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            • SAINTSTEVE
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              #116
              Originally posted by chrisJS
              But also a guy that was close to 40 and was never good enough to win a world title in a weak era.
              And undefeated. I didn't vote in the poll because I don't know.
              Last edited by SAINTSTEVE; 03-04-2018, 06:06 PM.

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                #117
                Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                I'm sure it would be the opinion of anyone who knew boxing.
                Well that obviously excludes you because you clearly don't. Your emotional bias is not the equivalent of boxing knowledge.

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                • j0zef
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                  #118
                  Wlad and it's not even in the same stratosphere. You might as well compare Mayweather to Austin trout.

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                  • Sid-Knee
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by joseph5620
                    Well that obviously excludes you because you clearly don't. Your emotional bias is not the equivalent of boxing knowledge.
                    Do a poll and see that Fury is the superior fighter and boxer. Go on. It will prove my opinion is shared by most. Ortiz gassed out after throwing a few punches for crying out loud.

                    Fury would keep him at range and give him a one sided boxing lesson.

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                    • SAINTSTEVE
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                      #120
                      Man Wlad lost that fight as much as Fury won it. Do a poll on which fight would you rather watch twice, Wlad vs Fury or Wilder vs Ortiz. Because I already watched Wilder's bout twice and Wlad Fury.. ******.

                      Last edited by SAINTSTEVE; 03-04-2018, 06:59 PM.

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