Can someone explain to me how a guy like Wilder hasn't lost yet?

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  • Japanese Boxing
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    #61
    Originally posted by Sheldon312
    That's really a stretch
    Is it though?

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    • Boksfan
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      #62
      Originally posted by Sheldon312
      He is a great athlete but his fundamentals, balance, and technique is very subpart. Spilka, Stiverne, and Ortiz we're all better but yet they lost. Is Wilder changing our perspective on what it takes to be a champion and elite boxer? Or is this all based on luck?
      He got protected in most of his career and he managed to learn something on the way, that's why he's undefeated.

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      • Sheldon312
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        #63
        Originally posted by Boksfan
        He got protected in most of his career and he managed to learn something on the way, that's why he's undefeated.
        Elaborate?

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        • brettWall
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          #64
          His toughest fight thus far was against a 38 year old fighter. Just imagine Ortiz is in his prime and in his mid 20's.

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          • QuebecSTAR2
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            #65
            fighting old overweight opponent helps.

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            • Tails
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              #66
              To me Wilder is similar to a younger Pacquiao in that he is essentially a one trick pony for the most part. Manny had a dynamite left hand and Wilder has a dynamite right hand.

              He understands that he's not going to outbox guys in clear UD victories because that's not his game and he would likely end up losing. So he looks to end it with one shot and if he thinks he has someone stunned he goes for the finish because he's fully aware that his best opportunity to win is to not let get to to scorecards.

              That all said Wilder is clearly a very beatable boxer as he can be caught clean and he does leave himself open meaning it is likely that he will wind up being on the receiving end of a ko someday or wide decision loss. That doesn't mean he isn't any good it just means that his style didn't mesh well with his opponents. When and if that time comes he will have to learn to adapt.

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                #67
                Because he'a a Heavyweight. In addition, it's largely due to that equalizer of his. He has that game changing power. No matter how badly he's being out boxed or how many rounds he has lost, all it takes is just one punch and then it is a wrap. Power is something that you cannot teach. You either have it or you don't.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Sheldon312
                  Hearns had a better jab, footwork, balance, and more accurate with the right hand. He also was pretty underrated when it came to fighting on the inside which is something Wilder hasn't shown yet.
                  Fight tall, use reach, throw the straight right hand, hurt your opponent, get the knockout...I'm sure Emmanuel Steward would say the same thing

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                  • Sheldon312
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Tails
                    To me Wilder is similar to a younger Pacquiao in that he is essentially a one trick pony for the most part. Manny had a dynamite left hand and Wilder has a dynamite right hand.

                    He understands that he's not going to outbox guys in clear UD victories because that's not his game and he would likely end up losing. So he looks to end it with one shot and if he thinks he has someone stunned he goes for the finish because he's fully aware that his best opportunity to win is to not let get to to scorecards.

                    That all said Wilder is clearly a very beatable boxer as he can be caught clean and he does leave himself open meaning it is likely that he will wind up being on the receiving end of a ko someday or wide decision loss. That doesn't mean he isn't any good it just means that his style didn't mesh well with his opponents. When and if that time comes he will have to learn to adapt.

                    You're not going Manny his due. Look at the Bradley and Marquez fights he clearly showed great ring iq. But I like the analogy.

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