Can someone explain to me how a guy like Wilder hasn't lost yet?

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • saintpat
    Undisputed Champion
    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
    • May 2013
    • 1289
    • 70
    • 12
    • 27,892

    #31
    Originally posted by Pigeons
    Wilder carries his power into the late rounds. That's a unique skill in the heavyweight division.
    Overlooked factor.

    Plus speed. Plus probably the best-conditioned heavyweight of his generation.

    Throw in the power and it’s obvious why he hasn’t lost.

    Comment

    • BWC
      Undisputed Champion
      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
      • May 2015
      • 2710
      • 51
      • 1
      • 19,165

      #32
      He's not textbook but he's highly effective. He actually landed more punches than Ortiz last night. He's actually a tremendous talent with a stiff jab, and an opportunistic right that is a total fight ender. Ortiz fights in textbook HW style,great skills and power and he couldn't do it. Southpaw as well

      Comment

      • KingHippo
        Undisputed Champion
        • Jun 2016
        • 3457
        • 168
        • 40
        • 38,705

        #33
        Originally posted by Sheldon312
        He is a great athlete but his fundamentals, balance, and technique is very subpart. Spilka, Stiverne, and Ortiz we're all better but yet they lost. Is Wilder changing our perspective on what it takes to be a champion and elite boxer? Or is this all based on luck?
        He doesn't need fundamentals. He's a freak of nature. Can cover half a ring's distance in a millisecond. Freakish power. Easily the most mobile fighter in the division. And we now know that he has a much tougher chin and heart than he was given credit for. Only fighter who stands a chance in the division is Fury.

        Comment

        • ELPacman
          LEGENDARY
          Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
          • Apr 2004
          • 10725
          • 1,940
          • 150
          • 34,372

          #34
          Honestly, I love watching Wilder and he's an awesome dude, but I think the same thing all the time. His fundamentals are horrible, lol. Just as his name implies though, his wild nature when he starts throwing the bombs are impossible to prepare for. They come from all over the place and you catch one, it's been lights out for them. That is why he hasn't lost yet.

          Comment

          • Rip Chudd
            1 John 2:22
            Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
            • Jun 2010
            • 22689
            • 1,932
            • 1,321
            • 260,351

            #35
            This^^^^^^

            Holyfield (whom I rarely agree with, except now) said Wilder is winning on determination, heart and power. He said every fighter he fights is more experienced than Wilder but he keeps finding a way to win, which impresses Evander.

            Comment

            • CLUE
              _________
              Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
              • May 2013
              • 1282
              • 144
              • 11
              • 22,743

              #36
              Because many are so focused on his offensive technique, that they ignore he knows how to avoid being hit very well. Whatever you want to credit his defense for, he has an effective one.

              Comment

              • FinitoxDinamita
                Undisputed Champion
                Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                • Sep 2016
                • 16112
                • 2,217
                • 2,187
                • 281,604

                #37
                Easy. That is how shtty the HW division is and nothing has changed since the early 2000s..

                Only decent HWs are Fury and Joshua and both of these guys would beat Wilder.

                Comment

                • bopbopbbe
                  Undisputed Champion
                  Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 1369
                  • 56
                  • 4
                  • 10,071

                  #38
                  A lot of people confuse the aesthetics with actually boxing skill. Wilder's punches look nuts but he's able to land more than hes not. That's boxing skill.

                  Comment

                  • Sid-Knee
                    Undisputed Champion
                    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                    • Oct 2015
                    • 18249
                    • 1,091
                    • 731
                    • 155,532

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Sheldon312
                    He is a great athlete but his fundamentals, balance, and technique is very subpart. Spilka, Stiverne, and Ortiz we're all better but yet they lost. Is Wilder changing our perspective on what it takes to be a champion and elite boxer? Or is this all based on luck?
                    He's got a get out of jail card with his power. But other than that, yeah, he's a **** boxer. Looks like a new born giraffe.

                    Comment

                    • Hype job
                      Undisputed Champion
                      Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 10667
                      • 728
                      • 1,404
                      • 43,949

                      #40
                      The eraser in his right hand.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP