Comments Thread For: NSAC Head: We're Moving Forward With Adalaide Byrd

[BigStomps]

In real life judging and when I judged pro fights we called it effective aggression. Something that Canelo lacked that night,

You act like Triple g had so much effective aggression during the fight??

[BigStomps]

Two entirely different fighters in two unrelated weight classes. Imagine if GGG fought like Loma. Oscar would try to get him to fight wearing wrist and ankle weights and a blindfold and have the first 4 rounds scored 10-9 for Red Diva before the fight even started.

You really are one ****** mother****er with this post! You don't know shet about boxing!

[McNulty]

"I don’t want to hear about 2012"

What does the ^ mean?

[BigStomps]

She’s either inept or she’s corrupt. There is no other explanation.

And for Don Trella to give Nelo round 7 when G clearly won it has me more su****ious of him.

Don Trella was once on the cover of Ring Magazine. Oscar De La Hoya owns Ring Magazine. Don Trella judged G vs. Nelo. Oscar De La Hoya is Nelo’s promoter. Don Trella scored the fight 114-114 and gave the 7th to Nelo.

Corruption. G has to knock this kid out or he loses.

Quit crying fool! You mother****er Triple g nuttriders are always crying about something. Maybe your boy isn't as good as you thought and he wasn't able to beat Canelo clearly.
To me the fight is good with a draw but I wouldn't have been upset with either fighter winning by a point.

[Morrie ATG]

Quit crying fool! You mother****er Triple g nuttriders are always crying about something. Maybe your boy isn't as good as you thought and he wasn't able to beat Canelo clearly.
To me the fight is good with a draw but I wouldn't have been upset with either fighter winning by a point.

What I said was that if Triple Gee moved like Linares or Vassily, then people could make a case that he got robbed. A lot of punches that Triple Gee threw were jabs and many of those that looked “connected” were his jabs pushing Canelo’s guard over his face. I recall Triple Gee had about 3 hard jabs a round, clean, where Bummelo’s head snapped back. Other than that Triple Gee had a horrid performance or he got payed to fight that way. Vassil can do combos or fakes that would tag Bummelo all night. This is why I do not like when Triple Gee fans act like they are Lomachenko fans.

[future hendrixx]

how about this. dont announce the winner until the next day.. allow the "judges" to rewatch the fight in HD with no commentary. then release their scores on some "breaking news" type sht.

or how about this if a card causes controversy these judges should have a sit down with max kellerman/malignaggi the next weekend and explain their scores. I think even if we disagree with a score like byrd having her explain it would make it less controversial. has she ever said anything about what she favors in a fight? I have never even seen her speak.

[aboutfkntime]

I think the overall fan scorecard was something like 60/40 in favour of GGG vs Jacobs, from what I recall. Close - and with plenty of people seeing it for Jacobs but the KD just giving the edge to Golovkin.

In general though I'm not averse at all to the idea of scoring fights by crowd acclamation... despite all the BS on here about 'casuals' and the suchlike, the average fight fan should - in most cases - be able to tell who 'won' a fight. In fact in a populist sport like boxing I'd even go so far as to say that if the majority of casual enthusiast are coming up with a different result from the self- proclaimed 'experts' of the sport, the problem lies with the experts not with the casuals... maybe the rules (or their interpretation) need changing to be in line with what your average Joe (or Jamall) sees when he watches a fight? Just a thought.

The technology is easily available, but the problems lie (to my mind) not so much with individual bias - we're so wrapped up in our petty feuds and **** on here that we may lose sight of the fact that 'normal' fans are neither ****** nor particularly biased in the main - but with finding a system which is at least partially resistant to wholesale manipulation by the dodgy fuckers who have the greatest financial stakes in the sport.

nah, that would turn boxing into a popularity contest

and sorry to appear true-to-form..... but casual fans are fkn hopeless, truly clueless

that fight was difficult to score, and the range of possible good scores was a lot wider than people (especially casuals) seem to realize

the issue was Gennady's inaccuracy/ineffectiveness, combined with Canelo's lethargy..... which made the fight difficult to read at times

..... in a matchup between a pressure fighter vs a boxer..... Byrd (and a lot of old-school judges) will score for the boxer if the pressure fighter is ineffective

while the casuals were scoring for the guy going forward, Byrd noticed that Golovkin wasn't really achieving anything, so she scored for Canelo's defence

if Byrd could not find a reason why those rounds should be scored for Golovkin, maybe Golovkin should ask himself why?

she scored for Canelo's defense/accuracy/better punches, and likely ring-generalship.....

I think she missed a lot of what Golovkin was doing, and under-valued his effectiveness in some of those middle rounds..... but maybe Golovkin could work on being more accurate

Byrd got thrown under a bus for her average effort, which is fair enough..... but one of the other judges scored that fight a draw, and the sole judge who scored for Golovkin awarded him that fight by 1 solitary point

Golovkin needs to work on his accuracy/effectiveness, Canelo needs to up the ante and become more interested during the middle rounds

it should be far easier for those guys to improve than it would be for casual-fans to suddenly and miraculously develop-a-clue

[aboutfkntime]

Byrd is not corrupt

if so, she simply would not have scored so widely for Canelo

the difference between Byrd..... and the other two judges, who differed by 1 solitary point..... is a slight change in perception..... that is all

that is why Byrd has been retained

some of those middle rounds were very close

she scored for Canelo, because she could not find a reason not to..... not all of that blame should go to Byrd, and none of it should go to Canelo

[Bluebird]

Adalaide Byrd, C.J. Ross and Waleska Roldan are 3 of the most incompetent judges in boxing and they all should get fired and banned from judging.

[Citizen Koba]

nah, that would turn boxing into a popularity contest

and sorry to appear true-to-form..... but casual fans are fkn hopeless, truly clueless

that fight was difficult to score, and the range of possible good scores was a lot wider than people (especially casuals) seem to realize

the issue was Gennady's inaccuracy/ineffectiveness, combined with Canelo's lethargy..... which made the fight difficult to read at times

..... in a matchup between a pressure fighter vs a boxer..... Byrd (and a lot of old-school judges) will score for the boxer if the pressure fighter is ineffective

while the casuals were scoring for the guy going forward, Byrd noticed that Golovkin wasn't really achieving anything, so she scored for Canelo's defence

if Byrd could not find a reason why those rounds should be scored for Golovkin, maybe Golovkin should ask himself why?

she scored for Canelo's defense/accuracy/better punches, and likely ring-generalship.....

I think she missed a lot of what Golovkin was doing, and under-valued his effectiveness in some of those middle rounds..... but maybe Golovkin could work on being more accurate

Byrd got thrown under a bus for her average effort, which is fair enough..... but one of the other judges scored that fight a draw, and the sole judge who scored for Golovkin awarded him that fight by 1 solitary point

Golovkin needs to work on his accuracy/effectiveness, Canelo needs to up the ante and become more interested during the middle rounds

it should be far easier for those guys to improve than it would be for casual-fans to suddenly and miraculously develop-a-clue

I think what I'm getting at is that maybe we're just damn well overcomplicating things... if you saw a streetfight you'd know who won 99 times out of a 100... you shouldn't need some kind of specialist training to know who wins a fight and if you do... well what I'm contending is that maybe there's something wrong with the rules themselves if a layman can't figure out who won. The idea of crowd or newspaper acclamation is as old as the sport itself, and honestly I think you do the common fan a disservice by claiming they're too ****** and/or biased to know what's going on. If anything it's often us obsessives whose judgement may be clouded by an endless repetition of the same tired arguments and entrenched positions...

Anyway. Food for thought, man.

Who you got tonight in the WBSS?