Comments Thread For: NSAC Head: We're Moving Forward With Adalaide Byrd

[aboutfkntime]

I don't really have a good solution, man, I'm just asking the question... putting some thoughts out there.

But yeah... if my business was the providing of a populist entertainment for the masses, I may not take their advice with my business planning but I'd surely do my best to give them want they wanted... and would certainly try to avoid alienating them by telling telling them, essentially, that they're too ****** to understand the entertainment I'm offering them. And yeah... if I could involve them in some way to increase their enjoyment and level of participation so they'd come back for more? Sure... I'd probably do that too...

And man... you don't always have to appreciate the beautiful subtleties and intricacies of defense to see which guy is getting hit more and which guy is getting hit less - (which is, after all, the entire point of the exercise) now, do ya?

ummm, not sure about that ?

casual-fans use compubox lol

casual-fans (and compubox) often count just about everything that is thrown..... regardless as to whether the punch hits forearms/gloves/shoulder/etc.....

remember ****-**** Lampley calling Pac's machine-gun combo..... when every single punch missed lol

I dunno man..... I trust experience/knowledge over excitable biased fans..... do fans even know how to be unbiased, because judges are specifically trained to watch BOTH fighters..... which is where Byrd let us down

I believe she was right in her approach, she just spent too much time watching Canelo

[TonyGe]

I think what I'm getting at is that maybe we're just damn well overcomplicating things... if you saw a streetfight you'd know who won 99 times out of a 100... you shouldn't need some kind of specialist training to know who wins a fight and if you do... well what I'm contending is that maybe there's something wrong with the rules themselves if a layman can't figure out who won. The idea of crowd or newspaper acclamation is as old as the sport itself, and honestly I think you do the common fan a disservice by claiming they're too ****** and/or biased to know what's going on. If anything it's often us obsessives whose judgement may be clouded by an endless repetition of the same tired arguments and entrenched positions...

Anyway. Food for thought, man.

Who you got tonight in the WBSS?

Good post. I agree there are too many hard line positions taken on fighters by a lot of people in this forum.

[mathed]

Is there any wonder why a substantial number of potential fans aren't fans right now solely because of corrupt judging? I've heard "boxing is a freaking joke" over a few dozen times throughout the years when watching boxing with some of my friends who don't really follow boxing.

[mathed]

whats the difference between biased fans and biased judges? ..

Well, only one can change the outcome of a fight for starters, LMAO.

via *****

[Little Mac 91]

Golovkin rejected Byrds sexual advancements that's why she cheated him out. Soon she'll file a false **** accusation aswell to destroy his career.

[buge]

... with fan voting kovalev wins the first ward fight and jacobs beats ggg.

What fan voting was this that had Jacobs beating GGG? I think you're making up stuff.

[pissingblood]

Byrd is not corrupt

if so, she simply would not have scored so widely for Canelo

the difference between Byrd..... and the other two judges, who differed by 1 solitary point..... is a slight change in perception..... that is all

that is why Byrd has been retained

some of those middle rounds were very close

she scored for Canelo, because she could not find a reason not to..... not all of that blame should go to Byrd, and none of it should go to Canelo

Come on man use some common sense. I'm not saying she was paid off but that scorecard is more than possible if a judge was paid off. I know GGG was/is over hyped but you are letting your dislike for the man blind you.

Here is how it would have went down if she was paid off:

- She gives Canelo the early rounds. Fair enough.

- She then sees GGG picking up the pace, pushing hard through the middle rounds and Canelo slowing down significantly but she needs Canelo to win so she scores a couple of the GGG rounds for Canelo.

- After the 9th round she has Canelo up 7-2, so assuming no knock downs or point deductions she has pretty much done her job and can score the last few rounds to GGG and hand in a reasonable scorecard as Canelo's stamina looked ****ed at this point.

- What she didn't bank on was Canelo rallying in the last few rounds which ended up being clear Canelo rounds (All three judges had the last 3 rounds for Canelo).

- She can't go back and change the earlier rounds she snuck in for Canelo because they are inked on the scorecard and has to hand in a 118-110 card.

[pissingblood]

get rid of judges, get rid of harold lederman worthless ass too. . create an app and allow the PPV audience to submit votes in during a fight. higher percentage wins the fight. this will also increase PPV sales because the app only works with a confirmed purchase. u can say fans are biased and might not have gone to judging school but then I'll mention Adelaide byrd and ask u whats the damn difference.. with fan voting kovalev wins the first ward fight and jacobs beats ggg. every mofo that scores a fight is a biased piece of sht in their own right. might as well have the paying viewers have that luxury then. for non PPV fights it'll bring up ratings by engaging the viewers. let the biased fans decide not these overpaid biased judges. judges get paid for ****ty cards fans dont.

This is probably the worst suggestion I have ever heard. You would have casuals not knowing what they are watching, you would have fan boys scoring shutouts for their favorite fighters, you would have kids on there parents phones ****ing around, you would have drunk people only half watching the fight, and the list goes on. If what they say is true about most people buying Floyd's fights because they wanted to see him lose, Floyd would have a record of like 40-10 or worse under this scoring model.

[future hendrixx]

Well, only one can change the outcome of a fight for starters, LMAO.

u obviously didnt read the entire post. i was talking about what if boxing fights were decided by fans votes. then a poster said it wouldn't work because fans are biased. so i said so are judges. so whats the difference.. read next time.

[sicko]

The Corruption is so blatant, they not even trying to hide that **** anymore