Comments Thread For: NSAC Head: We're Moving Forward With Adalaide Byrd

[Chaos]

Women have no business judging men's fights, especially a proven incompetent twat like her.

[Graz]

Adelaide Byrd should not even be let into a boxing venue. Totally incompetent.

[aboutfkntime]

I think what I'm getting at is that maybe we're just damn well overcomplicating things... if you saw a streetfight you'd know who won 99 times out of a 100... you shouldn't need some kind of specialist training to know who wins a fight and if you do... well what I'm contending is that maybe there's something wrong with the rules themselves if a layman can't figure out who won. The idea of crowd or newspaper acclamation is as old as the sport itself, and honestly I think you do the common fan a disservice by claiming they're too ****** and/or biased to know what's going on. If anything it's often us obsessives whose judgement may be clouded by an endless repetition of the same tired arguments and entrenched positions...

Anyway. Food for thought, man.

Who you got tonight in the WBSS?

fair point

the problem is..... fighters have mastered instincts, that casual fans do not know even exist..... I absolutely know that many casual-fans do not know what is REALLY happening as they watch a fight unfold

a higher degree of knowledge is required, and a high degree of training..... which is why I would prefer that ex-fighters fill that role

just one example..... very few casual-fans even acknowledge defence, let alone factor it in as scoring criteria

my suggestion is..... keep the casuals as far away from anything important as-is humanly possible..... because experience is the key to EVERYTHING in life, including boxing

would you let casuals give you business advice ?

[BigStomps]

What I said was that if Triple Gee moved like Linares or Vassily, then people could make a case that he got robbed. A lot of punches that Triple Gee threw were jabs and many of those that looked “connected” were his jabs pushing Canelo’s guard over his face. I recall Triple Gee had about 3 hard jabs a round, clean, where Bummelo’s head snapped back. Other than that Triple Gee had a horrid performance or he got payed to fight that way. Vassil can do combos or fakes that would tag Bummelo all night. This is why I do not like when Triple Gee fans act like they are Lomachenko fans.

And if you was able to please your woman then she wouldn't have to be calling up other guys to satisfy her cause you obviously can't!
You see the point? You work with what you got. Triple g is no Loma so quit comparing them.
And for you to even say that Triple g got paid to fight a certain way is pure ******ity! You really don't know shet about boxing if you really believe that!

[aboutfkntime]

koba.....

just one example.....

Mayweather/Maidana

many casuals think that the welterweight kingpin Maidana beat Mayweather in the first fight

they think/said that Maidana pressured Floyd, and Floyd's pipes burst because his legs were shot (many piggy-backed off those silly/naive comments by Freddie Roach)

this is what really happened

Maidana was a ridiculous cherry-pick..... he was a hand-picked, look-good, opponent..... specifically designed to be Floyd's "Gatti-at-147"..... and he was only justified (weakly imho) because of his win over Broner

and the ONLY reason why Maidana had any success, is because Floyd fought him-flat-footed..... like he fought Cotto/McGregor/Gatti

we all saw what happened in the rematch when Floyd boxed Maidana on his toes

Maidana had just been schooled by Devon fkn Alexander..... he was an undeserving cherry-pick who Floyd viewed as an unskilled punching bag

in saying that, I was extremely happy for Chino, he bought the business and fought much better than expected..... but listening to casual-fans discuss that fight as they proclaimed Maidana the new welterweight kingpin was pretty amusing

casual-fans see what they want to see, which would be awful for boxing

most casuals do not know what they saw in that fight, which is why Maidana got more credit than he deserved

maybe not the best example, but a good example nonetheless

[Morrie ATG]

And if you was able to please your woman then she wouldn't have to be calling up other guys to satisfy her cause you obviously can't!
You see the point? You work with what you got. Triple g is no Loma so quit comparing them.
And for you to even say that Triple g got paid to fight a certain way is pure ******ity! You really don't know shet about boxing if you really believe that!

Golovkin did get paid to Fight that way. What was his purse? Bummelo got paid to fight his way too. What do you mean?

[SAINTSTEVE]

Byrd is not corrupt

if so, she simply would not have scored so widely for Canelo

the difference between Byrd..... and the other two judges, who differed by 1 solitary point..... is a slight change in perception..... that is all

that is why Byrd has been retained

some of those middle rounds were very close

she scored for Canelo, because she could not find a reason not to..... not all of that blame should go to Byrd, and none of it should go to Canelo

If Canelo was her default choice for every round that was close then that explains how her card failed to represent reality. I would have preferred it 10-2 for GGG but that is still a stretch OK.
Ask yourself if you would want her to judge your bout with that mentality. She might score every round for your opponent by way of not finding a reason not to.

[aboutfkntime]

If Canelo was her default choice for every round that was close then that explains how her card failed to represent reality. I would have preferred it 10-2 for GGG but that is still a stretch OK.
Ask yourself if you would want her to judge your bout with that mentality. She might score every round for your opponent by way of not finding a reason not to.

I absolutely do want her to score every bout with that mentality

I just want her to watch both guys next time

Byrd is not alone using that rationale..... in a matchup with a pressure-fighter vs a boxer, old school judges understand hit-and-not-get-hit..... which is exactly how a fight should be scored..... so unless the pressure fighter is being effective, then he is being outboxed

what else could prevent a pressure-fighter from being effective?

her scorecard was too wide, it was outside the range of reasonable scores..... but the range of reasonable scores was much wider than most realize..... largely due to Golovkin's ineffectiveness/inaccuracy, but also due to Canelo's lethargy

in saying that, I would not be too upset if Golovkin had gotten the nod in that fight..... nor would I be upset had Canelo gotten the nod..... but yea, Golovkin can consider himself a little hard-done-by considering Byrd's score..... but not considering the other two judges who scored a draw and a win for GGG by 1 solitary point

I have heard 118-110 scores for Golovkin, from fans..... and nothing like that happened

[Citizen Koba]

fair point

the problem is..... fighters have mastered instincts, that casual fans do not know even exist..... I absolutely know that many casual-fans do not know what is REALLY happening as they watch a fight unfold

a higher degree of knowledge is required, and a high degree of training..... which is why I would prefer that ex-fighters fill that role

just one example..... very few casual-fans even acknowledge defence, let alone factor it in as scoring criteria

my suggestion is..... keep the casuals as far away from anything important as-is humanly possible..... because experience is the key to EVERYTHING in life, including boxing

would you let casuals give you business advice ?

I don't really have a good solution, man, I'm just asking the question... putting some thoughts out there.

But yeah... if my business was the providing of a populist entertainment for the masses, I may not take their advice with my business planning but I'd surely do my best to give them want they wanted... and would certainly try to avoid alienating them by telling telling them, essentially, that they're too ****** to understand the entertainment I'm offering them. And yeah... if I could involve them in some way to increase their enjoyment and level of participation so they'd come back for more? Sure... I'd probably do that too...

And man... you don't always have to appreciate the beautiful subtleties and intricacies of defense to see which guy is getting hit more and which guy is getting hit less - (which is, after all, the entire point of the exercise) now, do ya?

[War Room]

Choose one option:

1. Thrown into the ocean with a pack of hungry great white sharks baited by blood
2. Receive a head job from Adalaide Byrd -

Hard choice, but I'll go with option #2. *gulp*