Comments Thread For: Schaefer: Garcia vs. Lomachenko Needs To Build - It Will Be Huge!

[future hendrixx]

no fight will ever be a big as mayweather/pacquiao. forget it. if anything surpasses that it wont be in this era. this fight is never gonna crossover. its always just gonna be a huge fight for hardcores. and theres nothing wrong with that. mikey is soon gonna be at 147. this needs to happen this year.

[skinnystev]

F'in fat sheckle grubber wants to "marinate" it

[rickJen]

Like the Garcia brothers have recently announced,
Mikey will be staying at 140, and would only fight at 135 with the Linares mandatory.
Marinating it is the last thing you do with Loma, who will probably take a debut fight first at 135.
It's needs to happen soon.

[Corelone]

I was wrong to call Loma a pipsqueak, but comparing him to Muhammad Ali is silly. Mikey would be the biggest name or /fighter on Loma's record, if he wins. Archie Moore KOd 132 guys. How does 11-1 even get compared to the real greats?

[SteveM]

This fight will never be a super huge fight, but it can definitely be bigger than what it is now.
I don't mind if they build it up, I actually expect it, as long as they don't over marinate it.
I think 2019 should be fair game. Hopefullly Loma and Mikey can go on some solid runs in 2018 and the beginning of 2019, so more people can get hyped up for the fight.

Hopefully the other top 130 pounders don't run from Loma. If they do then people have to call them out on it.
I need to see that Berchelt fight. I'm starting to have my doubts that Berchelt would fight him.

Yeah, I'm ok with waiting 'til 2019 if they stay busy in semi meaningful fights until then. Trouble is Loma has looked so good that he is going to have trouble getting those unless big money is paid.

Rigo-Loma and Canelo-GGG were/are different because every month delayed Rigo and GGG are getting further out of their primes.

[Bjl12]

People fail to realize that the lower weights never really mattered much before Floyd. Yes MW with Hagler, Hearns, and SRL were big, but never anything like it was with Floyd.

Floyd is TBE boxing businessman - hands down. He made WW the glamour division. Before that it was always HW or at least LHW (RJJ, etc).

Neither Loma, Mikey, TC, Spence, or any of those guys have anywhere near the bravado to sell PPVs despite all being terrific fighters. It's just reality.

I mean Floyd's "nemesis" Pac became a PPV star and he's boring as wood. The only reason he sold a single ticket was his connection to Floyd..the guy to finally shut Floyd up!

The current batch of fighters will never be 1.5 million PPV guys because they aren't salesman. Canelo is the last good salesman and Joshua is returning the spotlight to HW.

[Butch.McRae]

People fail to realize that the lower weights never really mattered much before Floyd. Yes MW with Hagler, Hearns, and SRL were big, but never anything like it was with Floyd.

Floyd is TBE boxing businessman - hands down. He made WW the glamour division. Before that it was always HW or at least LHW (RJJ, etc).

Neither Loma, Mikey, TC, Spence, or any of those guys have anywhere near the bravado to sell PPVs despite all being terrific fighters. It's just reality.

I mean Floyd's "nemesis" Pac became a PPV star and he's boring as wood. The only reason he sold a single ticket was his connection to Floyd..the guy to finally shut Floyd up!

The current batch of fighters will never be 1.5 million PPV guys because they aren't salesman. Canelo is the last good salesman and Joshua is returning the spotlight to HW.

To be fair, Floyd had the same level of popularity (if not less) to the casual boxing crowd as guys like Zab and Mosley going into the Oscar fight. Which is why he sold 300k with Gatti and Zab (and Baldomir). Especially in the black community where guys like RJJ were on a higher pedestal.

He just talked so much **** on 24/7 (and had 50 cent right there too, which shouldn't be overlooked b/c he was huge at that time), that people couldn't help but get caught up in it. Remember that was the first time fans had gotten that 24/7 production. Before that we basically only had ESPN Classic docs and Beyond the Glory on fs1.

A Spence v. Crawford clash would pull in a similar amount of attention as Floyd v. Zab imo. You throw Thurman in the mix, with guys like Mikey likely coming by 147, it's not hard to see Spence or Crawford becoming big stars (not Floyd big, but maybe Cotto or Oscar big). They need to; (1) start talking more trash and (2) move up to fight Canelo after clearing out 147.

It could happen. Especially if the guy to emerge from the crowd is Spence. (Only because he has the bigger frame; both are excellent)

[Cigar]

People fail to realize that the lower weights never really mattered much before Floyd. Yes MW with Hagler, Hearns, and SRL were big, but never anything like it was with Floyd.

Floyd is TBE boxing businessman - hands down. He made WW the glamour division. Before that it was always HW or at least LHW (RJJ, etc).

Neither Loma, Mikey, TC, Spence, or any of those guys have anywhere near the bravado to sell PPVs despite all being terrific fighters. It's just reality.

I mean Floyd's "nemesis" Pac became a PPV star and he's boring as wood. The only reason he sold a single ticket was his connection to Floyd..the guy to finally shut Floyd up!

The current batch of fighters will never be 1.5 million PPV guys because they aren't salesman. Canelo is the last good salesman and Joshua is returning the spotlight to HW.

This comment is all kinds of dumb. I don't even know where to begin.

[Verus]

Well said! PPV is Wilder vs. Joshua! I don't even think Canelo vs. GGG II is PPV-worthy, but it will be just to pay for the fighters! Mikey vs. Loma is a good fight, but like you said, it's not an "event." Wilder vs. Joshua is an "event!" Neither is Spence Jr. vs. Thurman, Thurman vs. Crawford, etc.! PPV should be very rare!

I was fortunate to have lived most of my life in an era when fights were on national networks for free. But time moves on.

[Bjl12]

To be fair, Floyd had the same level of popularity (if not less) to the casual boxing crowd as guys like Zab and Mosley going into the Oscar fight. Which is why he sold 300k with Gatti and Zab (and Baldomir). Especially in the black community where guys like RJJ were on a higher pedestal.

He just talked so much **** on 24/7 (and had 50 cent right there too, which shouldn't be overlooked b/c he was huge at that time), that people couldn't help but get caught up in it. Remember that was the first time fans had gotten that 24/7 production. Before that we basically only had ESPN Classic docs and Beyond the Glory on fs1.

A Spence v. Crawford clash would pull in a similar amount of attention as Floyd v. Zab imo. You throw Thurman in the mix, with guys like Mikey likely coming by 147, it's not hard to see Spence or Crawford becoming big stars (not Floyd big, but maybe Cotto or Oscar big). They need to; (1) start talking more trash and (2) move up to fight Canelo after clearing out 147.

It could happen. Especially if the guy to emerge from the crowd is Spence. (Only because he has the bigger frame; both are excellent)

Right but FLOYD made 24/7.

Spence vs Thurman/Crawford is nowhere near Floyd Zab imo because - again - Floyd already had Gatti and his gangster persona against Zabs gangster persona...it's interesting tv.

Spence, Thurman, and Crawford have no personality - none. They can't sell food to the homeless