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  • #31
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
    It's not a question of youtube. It's a question of the following:

    #1 - SHO subscribers can watch boxing live on SHO's app. Computer, tablet, phone, anything, you can watch boxing live. People who watch this way are not included in the publicly released number, but SHO doesn't care because they'd rather keep subscribers happy than worry about public relations. HBO refuses to allow subscribers to watch boxing live on their app because they're determined to preserve the publicly released number.

    #2 - SHO replays their fights later the same night. People who watch this way are not included in the publicly released number, but SHO doesn't care because they'd rather keep subscribers happy than worry about public relations. HBO refuses to allow a late night replay because they're determined to preserve the publicly released number.

    #3 - SHO adds their fights to their app very quickly. Sometimes within hours. People who watch this way are not included in the publicly released number, but SHO doesn't care because they'd rather keep subscribers happy than worry about public relations. HBO makes subscribers wait several days before they can watch on their app because they're determined to preserve the publicly released number.

    #4 - SHO includes the ENTIRE BROADCAST on their app. People who watch this way are not included in the publicly released number, but SHO doesn't care because they'd rather keep subscribers happy than worry about public relations. HBO, after making fans wait several days, still only posts fights to their app bell to bell, with all the pomp and circumstance cut out because they're determined to preserve the publicly released number.

    I agree with you. No need to go into details. Im agree with you that Showtime is doing a much better job than HBO with making fights available.

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    • #32
      They will also lose Joshua after his fight with Parker. He's going to HBO.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Pandur View Post
        Why would HBO wanna "block" the biggest money fight in the boxing game today?
        Because if they don't, it'll take place without them.


        They will most likely wanna put the fight on HBO PPV.
        Doesn't matter what they want. Fight isn't happening without SHO.


        Lou DiBella and Haymon fighters have fought on both HBO and Showtime in the recent years.
        Stop being so myopic. Haymon fighters only fight on HBO when there is everything to gain and nothing to lose. That does not apply to Wilder.


        If the deal is right then those figthers will fight on HBO.
        If Hearn is able to leverage AJ for a ton of HBO dates for Matchroom USA, AJ-Wilder is dead for 2018. You're living in a fantasy land. Just as HBO will do everything to stop AJ-Wilder from taking place on SHO, SHO will do everything to stop AJ-Wilder from taking place on HBO.


        I think HBO has more money in a potential bid war.
        Okay, well you're wrong. So what does it matter what you think if your thoughts aren't based on any insight, experience, knowledge or facts? It's very clear SHO is spending more money on boxing than HBO.


        HBO will pretty much win now that Top Rank has left and they have more money.
        Top Rank leaving just facilitates HBO's demise.

        HBO is supposed to stand for excellence. The best of the best. Once they become the clear #3 in boxing, boxing becomes a liability to the brand. Boxing's future on HBO is bleak at best.


        Even though even though neither Peter Nelson nor Eddie Hearn will admit it, I think there will be a deal between HBO and Joshua.
        You could be right, but if that happens, say goodbye to AJ-Wilder in 2018.

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        • #34
          Showtime keeps killing it, while HBO becoming more and more irrelevant. Really looking forward to Ortiz-Wilder and Stevenson-Jack!

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          • #35
            Props to Showtime! Keep up the good work! I hope Stevenson vs. Jack will be in the early 2nd quarter, if not the in the 1st!

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Mrbamladen View Post
              I hear that. Especially when you got big time compelling 50/50 matches like matthysse vs kiram, Kovalev vs mikhailkin, and cuadras vs arroyo coming up on HBO. Then showtime has the nerve to tease us with meaningless fights like wilder vs Ortiz. I'm with you on this one. Who really cares about about an undefeated knock out artist defending his title against another undefeated slick boxer labeled the boogeyman of the division because nobody wants to fight him??? Horrible fights indeed. Lol
              I'm not a groupie for Showtime or HBO, and both are guilty. If Wilder/Ortiz actually happens, or if Stevenson/Jack gets scheduled....those are fights I'd like to see. It's funny when people get all "brand loyal" about a sports channel or a promoter. Wow! They're hauling out Rios again! Wow! Matthysse is getting a shot at a paper title!

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              • #37
                What i think will happen is Joshua will be moved over to HBO but only with a gurantee of him fighting in America at Prime Time.I think Joshua-Wilder will happen in 2018 but both HBO and Showtime will be forced to collaborate which will only help Hearn,Joshua,Haymon as it means everyone gets a piece of the pie and because Boxing is Dead in America you will have both Broadcasters Collabrating to create a Super event at Las Vegas

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Pandur View Post
                  Why would HBO wanna "block" the biggest money fight in the boxing game today?
                  They will most likely wanna put the fight on HBO PPV.





                  Lou DiBella and Haymon fighters have fought on both HBO and Showtime in the recent years.
                  If the deal is right then those figthers will fight on HBO.






                  I think HBO has more money in a potential bid war.
                  HBO will pretty much win now that Top Rank has left and they have more money.
                  Even though even though neither Peter Nelson nor Eddie Hearn will admit it, I think there will be a deal between HBO and Joshua.
                  And more dates for Matchroom & Eddie Hearn in the US sure wont hurt.
                  It will only help their working relationship.
                  "HBO will pretty much win now that Top Rank has left and they have more money." Top Rank left because HBO did NOT want to spend that money you're talking about!

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by killakali View Post
                    It’s all good. My man adonis, like most pbc fighters only fight once a year. That fight will probably get locked in April or May
                    that should have been done..it's not all good..im tired of thise hype up welterweights like danny and thurman...forget their dates..

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by kej718 View Post
                      I think they are looking for a new date. Mikey Garcia took the original one, and the 2 heavyweight fights would be ahead of them too.

                      I was hoping they would pick up some of the world boxing super series fights.
                      so u're telling me showtime went for garcia vs lipinets over adonis jack? man that is some BS...that is failing boxing fans

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