Comments Thread For: Golovkin Promoter: If Up To Us, Canelo Rematch Would Be Done

[Chuckguy]

Man stfu what part of negotiations will continue after the Saunders lemule fight donyou not understand/ just move on and give Danny his rematch or fight the charlo bro ffs

[kafkod]

listen re tard I have no clue how Canelo would sell in your alternate dimension America and I don't care. In the real world which we live in Canelo sells and GGG doesn't. sorry if that fact upsets you. GGG isn't a draw in the US or the UK. He's only fought in the UK once and that was because of Brook who was the draw in that fight not him. He hasn't been back since and never fought there before Brook. Canelo has been a huge draw ever since he was kid was a big draw in Mexico then became a big draw in Boxing's capital Vegas. He doesn't need to go anywhere else. What we know is at no point has GGG ever been a big draw. If he was he'd be fighting in that dump kazaphukstan but he's not. He's not fighting in the UK either and he just fought for the first time in his career in Vegas. The reason he hasn't fought in vegas prior? Simple because his promoters knew he would flop if he did.

There are many reason why Canelo is a big draw and sure being Mexican is part of it. But stop this BS that GGG not being Mexican is why GGG can't sell. It didn't hold back the biggest 2 stars of this past generation Floyd and Pacquiao who neither are mexican. Pacquiao specifically is filipino which don't make up much of the US population and his biggest rival was Marquez who is Mexican yet he never came close to selling like Pacquaio did through out his career. There are many reasons why GGG has flopped on PPV and isn't a draw and not because he's not Mexican. Some fighters have "it" and some don't. Maybe it's because he sounds like Borat, maybe he has a shyt promoter instead of one of the big boy promoters, maybe it's because he fought nothing but garbage cans until his mid 30's, maybe it's because he called out smaller fighters to come up but refused to ever himself move up in weight, maybe it's because the moment he did step up in class he got a questionable decision against Jacobs and a draw against Canelo. Either way you crying about it won't change the fact GGG can't sell PPVs without Canelo while Canelo has sold 6M PPVs without GGG.

In the UK GGG vs Brook sold out the arena in less than 10 mins and then sold 4 times more Sky PPVs than Brook's only other PPV fight.

GGG brought in 300k more HBO PPVs than Chavez JR when he fought Canelo. Golovkin's not a draw doe .. yeah right.

[boxingitis]

And?? What's your point you stupid mother****er???
MY POINT IS that triple g is gonna wait on Canelo cause he wants that money and nobody else is gonna help him get that kinda money... You get it??
YOU STUPID MOTHER****ER!

Stupid motherfuker he will make more money fighting than waiting and not fighting. Waiting doesn't pay.

[boxingitis]

listen re tard I have no clue how Canelo would sell in your alternate dimension America and I don't care. In the real world which we live in Canelo sells and GGG doesn't. sorry if that fact upsets you. GGG isn't a draw in the US or the UK. He's only fought in the UK once and that was because of Brook who was the draw in that fight not him. He hasn't been back since and never fought there before Brook. Canelo has been a huge draw ever since he was kid was a big draw in Mexico then became a big draw in Boxing's capital Vegas. He doesn't need to go anywhere else. What we know is at no point has GGG ever been a big draw. If he was he'd be fighting in that dump kazaphukstan but he's not. He's not fighting in the UK either and he just fought for the first time in his career in Vegas. The reason he hasn't fought in vegas prior? Simple because his promoters knew he would flop if he did.

There are many reason why Canelo is a big draw and sure being Mexican is part of it. But stop this BS that GGG not being Mexican is why GGG can't sell. It didn't hold back the biggest 2 stars of this past generation Floyd and Pacquiao who neither are mexican. Pacquiao specifically is filipino which don't make up much of the US population and his biggest rival was Marquez who is Mexican yet he never came close to selling like Pacquaio did through out his career. There are many reasons why GGG has flopped on PPV and isn't a draw and not because he's not Mexican. Some fighters have "it" and some don't. Maybe it's because he sounds like Borat, maybe he has a shyt promoter instead of one of the big boy promoters, maybe it's because he fought nothing but garbage cans until his mid 30's, maybe it's because he called out smaller fighters to come up but refused to ever himself move up in weight, maybe it's because the moment he did step up in class he got a questionable decision against Jacobs and a draw against Canelo. Either way you crying about it won't change the fact GGG can't sell PPVs without Canelo while Canelo has sold 6M PPVs without GGG.

O yeah why does GGG have more PPV than Ward and Crawfors who are American and are supposedly better than GGG. Why becuase GGG is using the Mexican style tatic to get fans. Mayweather fought on Mexican holidays vs Mexican or Mexican Americas fighters. His first Huge PPV was vs Oscar de La Hoya who is Mexican American, then his a second big vs Canelo who is also Mexican. Pacquiao got the Mexican fan base by beating Mexicans, Barrera, Morales, and Marquez. Boxing in America is due to Mexican fans base. Thats why Crawford and Andre can't sell for ****. If GGG promoters did a horrible he wouldn't be the second most PPV seller is the US after Canelo. GGG is doing better than Ward, Crawford, Kovalev. Not bad being from a country nobody knows about. If PPV buys justify ur greatness, Canelo is better than Ward, Crawford, Lomachenko, Rigo. We know he isn't. Like I said Canelo only sells because of Mexicans in America. His good PPV were due thanks to other names like Mayweather, Cotto, Chavez and GGG which did 2 Mill PPV. Vs Angulo, Lara, Khan, and smith he did ****.

[landotter]

You ever been in that ring? Try it & blow your load in the first couple of rounds & see what happens. They fought like that for a reason. Nelo got tired trying to KO lil g which aint gonna happen & lil g was hesitant cuz he kept getting counter punched & lil g too slow.

Why is it the first thing some people bring up stuff like "you ever been in a boxing match" comment when they disagree? No, I have never boxed, am not an elite athlete, have never trained anyone, and also am not able meld my mind with the people who do, but I can watch, listen, and learn about this sport.

When Golovkin fought Danny Jacobs, he made adjustments to the way Jacobs fought the middle portion of their fight. By rounds 10-12, Trip G was scoring with better shots and had picked up the pace and was in total control. Jacobs had some wicked counter punches and was on his own 9 fight KO streak, so I argue Jacobs power is way greater than Alvarez. But Golovkin picked it up and won the match in the money rounds. His inactivity against Canelo- even early on when Alvarez put HIMSELF on the ropes and Golovkin had the better position as the bigger man- was mystifying. And Alvarez has always been a "spurt" action fighter. Inactivity followed by explosions of excellent offense. Against Trip G (and also against a complete burnt Chavez JR. in the fight before) we have not seen that. Alvarez was content to counter punch and let Trip G set the tone almost the entire fight.

Both of these men ARE elite athletes and aggressive fighters. I was commenting that it seems both men abandoned their usual tendencies in the first fight and I was worried the rematch would be more of the same.

[landotter]

GGG will be on that gurl like white on rice if they fight again, super pressure from rd 1

I hope... would make for a freaking GREAT match, and that is what makes Golovkin so exciting. Never seen Alvarez in complete survival mode before....

[BigStomps]

Stupid motherfuker he will make more money fighting than waiting and not fighting. Waiting doesn't pay.

Your wrong you stupid mother****er! You saw what happened last time...
Golden Boy promotions told him last time if he took the BJ Saunders fight then he don't get the Canelo fight in September and what did he do??
He waited around for Canelo like a good boy....
Same thing again.. He's not gonna fight someone else and risk losing the fight and losing on another Canelo pay day. Hell wait around like a good boy and wait till Canelo makes his decision on who's he fighting next while triple g hopes and prays it's him again....
So your wrong again you stupid mother****er!
Cause one Canelo pay day equals the combined purses of ten Triple g fights against anyone else.
YOU STUPID MOTHER****ER!

[BigStomps]

O yeah why does GGG have more PPV than Ward and Crawfors who are American and are supposedly better than GGG. Why becuase GGG is using the Mexican style tatic to get fans. Mayweather fought on Mexican holidays vs Mexican or Mexican Americas fighters. His first Huge PPV was vs Oscar de La Hoya who is Mexican American, then his a second big vs Canelo who is also Mexican. Pacquiao got the Mexican fan base by beating Mexicans, Barrera, Morales, and Marquez. Boxing in America is due to Mexican fans base. Thats why Crawford and Andre can't sell for ****. If GGG promoters did a horrible he wouldn't be the second most PPV seller is the US after Canelo. GGG is doing better than Ward, Crawford, Kovalev. Not bad being from a country nobody knows about. If PPV buys justify ur greatness, Canelo is better than Ward, Crawford, Lomachenko, Rigo. We know he isn't. Like I said Canelo only sells because of Mexicans in America. His good PPV were due thanks to other names like Mayweather, Cotto, Chavez and GGG which did 2 Mill PPV. Vs Angulo, Lara, Khan, and smith he did ****.

You stupid mother****er! All of Canelo's ppv fights against Angulo, Lara, Khan and Smith did better than any of Triple g's ppv fights that didn't include Canelo!
You really are one stupid mother****er!

[BigStomps]

Everybody knows that negotiations revolve around circumstances, that's the whole point of percentages and splits.

It all stems back to K2 and Frank Warren. Instead of Unifying in Astana Expo 2017, as Dan Rafael tried to insinuate or make out theory as to the HBO tarps for years (and keep in mind Rafael is ESPN...), Team GGG decided to fight Canelo instead. The only theories as to why K2 ditched Astana was because GBP enticed Loeffler about the guaranteed fight, and of course non disclosure to the public.

In other words, don't fight BJS, leave that for us, and we'll give you Canelo.

If K2 didn't fight Alvarez, and instead they fought BJS, and assume they became undisputed, then GBP would have no power of A side negotiations since K2 has all the straps and the backing of industry, so in other words Nelo would have to see GGG one way or another for a title fight as the B side.

Also, had GGG already unified the straps at Expo 2017, and lets defended his titles to the point where he beat Bhops record, regardless if they were the ''Berto's'' for fulfillment, then it means GGG could've also been RIGHT NOW in the WBSS and possibly taken it all the way...

So basically K2 has done very poor business moves. It's just the way it is. I'm telling yall, GGG needs to move up for one last hooray. Draining at 160 is pointless, we all seen how fat he gets like BJS when not fighting ''4 times'' a year...

Welcome to the major leagues mang!

You really are a fool if you think Canelo would be the B side to any fight...
Canelo don't need no piece of shet belt to prove he's the biggest star in boxing and the A side to any fight.
That simple!

[Lester Tutor]

You really are a fool if you think Canelo would be the B side to any fight...
Canelo don't need no piece of shet belt to prove he's the biggest star in boxing and the A side to any fight.
That simple!

there has to be some concession theory. If Gennady had all the straps yet Canelo has lineage, do you think it's impossible for K2 and GBP to split 50/50? The circumstance is of course had GGG beat Saunders in Astana and Nelo would HAVE TO SEE Lil'G for a the fight, do you really think K2 is going to settle for anything less than 50%? Imo if GBP were to acknowledge the splits then in theory they're the B side as its most likey not what they want, but surely you have to give in. Seeing how Alvarez didnt care much for the WBC its not hard to believe that he could concede to 50% just to make Lil'G happy.

Or is 50/50 have no A or B side in theory?