Steve collins?--Someone who was around tell me about him

[lightsout_finit]

Eubank was a poor man's version of Jones in terms of competition as he feasted on British domestic class fighters when he made his division "record" defenses of his WBO super middleweight crown.

Bum couldn't take body shots had poor stamina and tons of gift decisions.

I always considered eubank as the poor mans british sven ottke.

[coghaugen]

When did Sven Ottke ever throw/land 5-6 punch combinations to the body and head in the first round against former and future World champs and American #1 contenders across all four bodies? They are nothing alike.

[IronDanHamza]

Toney clearly won both Griffin fights, did much better than Jones. Jones clearly lost to Griffin, and Griffin still gave Jones a rematch after humiliating him (Jones wouldn't return the favour for rubber match).

......Wow. I am speechless

If I'd have known you were legitmately ******ed I would have not started this conversation.

[coghaugen]

I'll find my scores for the fights. Then rewatch later.

[IronDanHamza]

I'll find my scores for the fights. Then rewatch later.

I don't care about your ******ed scores. You have made it very clear that you are completely out of touch with reality about 10 seperate times in this thread.

You will have Toney winning 120-108 or 121-108 because you gave him an extra point for studying a tape of Archie Moore.

Here are the facts;

Roy Jones vs Montel Griffin;

Ahead on two of the three scorecards after 9 rounds, dropped Griffin and hit him while he was down and DQ'd

Rematch - knocked him out in the first

James Toney vs Montel Griffin;

2 fights, 2 loss's, 6 scorecards and NOT A SINGLE ONE had Toney winning.


And you are trying to say that Toney did better against Griffin than Roy Jones .

Your brain is the size of a pea.

[low blows]

Bum couldn't take body shots had poor stamina and tons of gift decisions.

I always considered eubank as the poor mans british sven ottke.

People also forget that the 168 pound division was total ass until the late 90's. Nobody with talent stayed in the division for long and the division wasn't well respected.

[coghaugen]

Toney-Griffin I:
Toney wins 2,3(10-8),4,5,6,8,9,12

Toney-Griffin II:
Toney wins 1,2,4,5,6,7,8,10,11

Both fights very clear for Toney, landed the more telling blows throughout both.

Jones-Griffin I:
Griffin wins 1,2,3,4,6,8

Schooling. Made Jones look silly.

[IronDanHamza]

Toney-Griffin I:
Toney wins 2,3(10-8),4,5,6,8,9,12

Toney-Griffin II:
Toney wins 1,2,4,5,6,7,8,10,11

Both fights very clear for Toney, landed the more telling blows throughout both.

Jones-Griffin I:
Griffin wins 1,2,3,4,6,8

Schooling. Made Jones look silly.

Kids, if you ever see this kind of delusion call the police immediately.

[coghaugen]

People also forget that the 168 pound division was total ass until the late 90's. Nobody with talent stayed in the division for long and the division wasn't well respected.

Wow, other way around buddy!

Eubank, Watson, Nunn, Barkley, Benn, Toney, Liles and Jones were 10x the fighters of Calzaghe (awful form in 99), Charles Brewer and Markus Beyer, Robin Reid, Richie Woodhall etc.

[coghaugen]

Kids, if you ever see this kind of delusion call the police immediately.

I'll rewatch soon and analyze.