Be honest: Who picked Walters over Lomachenko?

[g27region]

When some NSB poster said nobody thought Walters was good I had to show him the links with threads where people were discussing if Walters is a borderline top 10 p4p

Beating Darchinyan, Donaire, Marriaga and Sosa is nothing now

I'm a huge fan of Crawford, but why I'm not seeing complains about Postol or Gamboa being on a shelf for 1 year before the fight? I want somebody to answer this question

When I see some NSB ****** from UK (not gonna name any names) saying stuff like "Postol was a better win because Walters was inactive"....it doesn't make any sense, both of these fighters were rusty

I think Rigo will suffer the same fate and lose most of his new found fans unfortunately. That's sad because he has a ton of skill and probably deserves to be in the Hall of Fame one day but he will be completely ignored by those that are most vocal about what he's going to do next week. In fairness some of his real fans will stick around and some of the other "fans" gave up on him when the fight was signed despite the day prior being adamant he was being avoided and would win easy.

These Rigo "fans" don't care about him winning the fight, they care about Lomachenko losing it more

[chrisJS]

When some NSB poster said nobody thought Walters was good I had to show him the links with threads where people were discussing if Walters is a borderline top 10 p4p

Beating Darchinyan, Donaire, Marriaga and Sosa is nothing now

I'm a huge fan of Crawford, but why I'm not seeing complains about Postol or Gamboa being on a shelf for 1 year before the fight? I want somebody to answer this question

When I see some NSB ****** from UK (not gonna name any names) saying stuff like "Postol was a better win because Walters was inactive"....it doesn't make any sense, both of these fighters were rusty



These Rigo "fans" don't care about him winning the fight, they care about Lomachenko losing it more

Yeah, I see that always. Irony is Postol was called a stiff Euro bum by all the people who talk that win up now and Walters and Russell despite being pound for pound and/or badass fighters that will destroy Loma are now bums that they didn't even pick.

The Ring rust is hilarious because Gamboa was off even longer than Walters and is MUCH smaller than Crawford. I've met both and believe me they are 3-4 natural weight classes apart. Gamboa is the smallest featherweight I've ever seen and didn't have the re-hydration clause Rigo has. But the talk will be "Gamboa is a great win Rigo was a bum and it is a sucky win". Some other clowns I think Raggamuffin was one was saying "Gamboa wasn't rusty because he didn't look rusty but Walters did" yet if Loma-Walters had been as competitive as Gamboa and Gamboa as outclassed as Walters it would have been "Loma was exposed" and "Crawford's win is amazing".

Their agendas are clear. One poster, I think it was Floyd TBE was exposed in a thread about Bivol. He was saying he's a bum and not good just an overrated typical white fighter. Someone posted a picture and he didn't even know it was him so had clearly never seen him fight. If his name was DeShawn Bivins he'd have no doubt been like "This guy it the truth".

For the record those are my two favorite fighters currently (Crawford probably just about my favorite by a hair) but I do see this hypocrisy all the time. I think BOTH are great fighters on their way to becoming truly great fighters. It's just funny how so many have it in their mind that Loma stinks and always pick against him and despite proving them wrong they give zero credit or admit no fault. It's also interesting that they hate pretty much all fair skinned fighters especial those from Eastern Europe. You know love Floyd and Ward for their technical skills, hate Loma and think he's garbage but love Wilder and think he's highly skilled.

It's gross. It also makes them twist their views around to suit an agenda. Two other clowns Larry and Floyd's Mask now try to say Hagler avoided 168 and was a coward for it even though little do they know the division wasn't even universally recognized at that time (It hadn't even been in America until AFTER his career) and the reason they do this is to discredit GGG. That's the acts of mentally sick and insecure people.

It's just Boxing.

[The Big Dunn]

The fight was about a year ago. Walters obviously had destroyed Donaire (which apparently is proof of greatness) and faced Lomachenko. Many, many folks said he'd crush Lomachenko after claiming Loma would duck him. Neither happened obviously.

I picked Lomachenko but by a 119-109 type fight.

Be honest.

Well, you are leaving out a lot.

When the fight was 1st going to happen, I thought Walters would win. Of course the fight didn't happen because Walters came in over weight and lost his titles on the scales. This gave Loma an excuse not to fight him-he had no belt.

After him being off for a year and knowing he had problems making 126 the previous fight, I still wanted him to win, still picked him to win, but knew it would be difficult.

Kudos to Loma for the win. Just make sure we give complete details and context.

[chrisJS]

Well, you are leaving out a lot.

When the fight was 1st going to happen, I thought Walters would win. Of course the fight didn't happen because Walters came in over weight and lost his titles on the scales. This gave Loma an excuse not to fight him-he had no belt.

After him being off for a year and knowing he had problems making 126 the previous fight, I still wanted him to win, still picked him to win, but knew it would be difficult.

Kudos to Loma for the win. Just make sure we give complete details and context.

Your missing out the fact that the fight was at 130 NOT 126. Your also missing out that Walters turned down the fight as a champion. He admitted that.

Why is being off a year an issue for Walters but not for Mosley and De La Hoya vs. Floyd for example?

[anonymous2.0]

Why is being off a year an issue for Walters but not for Mosley and De La Hoya vs. Floyd for example?

Simple. Walters isn't Mosley, De La Hoya, or Mayweather. Some fighters are affected by ring rust and some fighters aren't. You know this.

[Lomadeaux]

Love listening to people say they've lost trust in Lomachenko after his last 2 opponents. You can only fight who wants to fight you

Lomachenko and Rigondeaux are possibly the two best fighters I've seen step into the ring together ever. POSSIBLY.

[The Big Dunn]

Your missing out the fact that the fight was at 130 NOT 126. Your also missing out that Walters turned down the fight as a champion. He admitted that.

Why is being off a year an issue for Walters but not for Mosley and De La Hoya vs. Floyd for example?

With all due respect, you are the one that claimed being off factored into Mosley and ODH, and then left that piece out when you created the thread. I think you need to explain why.

Well Loma didn't want 130 the year previous. Then 130 was ok after he fought there during Walters being out. The question is why wasn't Loma ok with 130 the year prior?

Arum said Walters" priced himself out". He turned it down after the belt was stripped, not as champion.

[Rip Chudd]

Picked Loma over Walters, just too skilled. I've only picked against Loma once and that was when he fought Russell Jr, I'll never make that mistake again

[chrisJS]

With all due respect, you are the one that claimed being off factored into Mosley and ODH, and then left that piece out when you created the thread. I think you need to explain why.

Well Loma didn't want 130 the year previous. Then 130 was ok after he fought there during Walters being out. The question is why wasn't Loma ok with 130 the year prior?

Arum said Walters" priced himself out". He turned it down after the belt was stripped, not as champion.

Because Lomachenko was the reigning Featherweight champion. He had just won his title in the summer of 2014 and moved to 130 in the summer of 2016 (after only six fights I'm sure he could still make 126) after being unable to secure fights with Walters and Rigondeaux and other champions at 126. Walters could have easily fought him in the year prior but turned down what would have been by far a career high payday. He turned down the June 2016 offer so he could have avoided the ring rust.

[juggernaut666]

I never picked anyone with the name associated with Walter not even in dodge ball ! Nothing good ever comes of it .