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Notice it a lot, particularly the PBC crew. Cream themselves over another card where the 154s all appear, though not against each other. Love another welterweight tuneup, they understand Spence/Thurman needs time to build. One of their guys is the B side though, toys get thrown out the pram and the fight needs to happen immediately. There guys the A side, nobody deserves a shot.Comment
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Who are these people? Let's see some names put out there. Cause right now just seems like you making it out as if it's a significant amount of people when i have seen maybe 1 or 2 trolls saying Wilder deserves 50% or that Joshua has been ducking him. I see more people actually saying Hearn doesn't want the fightComment
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What do you think Wilder deserves?
I never said a significant amount of people said Wilder wants 50%, most are reluctant to state what split he deserves.
Almost everyone claiming AJ is ducking has at one point in the past had a different stance on the subject. Go look at the Ward vs Kovalev rematch threads when Ward wouldn't commit to the rematch right away, those same guys had a lot more patience back then. It's the same for the other side too, they have a lot more patience now that it's the fighter they like or support that is supposedly ducking.
It's the most obvious case of flip flopping I've ever seen.Comment
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I'm guessing this fight will happen within 12 months. There is no doubt they are on a collision course. I have no problem waiting a year for the fight. I think Wilder fans are anxious to get this fight made soon because they are afraid he will lose if he has to fight a serious challenge before they can sign a fight with AJ.
The only way this fight doesn't happen is if Wilder makes unreasonable demands. Looking at their last few fights, it's obvious who has the leverage here. Comparing purses, attendance, and quality of opposition, AJ is the A-side by a landslide. It isn't even close. So if Wilder thinks he is worth more than 30% (and that is being generous here) and insists the fight needs to be in the U.S., I can see that holding it up.Comment
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The same folks claiming Joshua has been ducking a fight that's only been possible for 4 days are the one's that swore GGG wasn't been ducked by Canelo* and that Lomachenko would duck Walters and then Rigondeaux. It's going to be funny when it does happen and if (probably when) the result doesn't go their way they will move onto the next thing and who's ducking and throw Wilder to the trash (much like the others they were so adamant on) means they can still continue to discredit and there's always somebody else that's better and being ducked by the guy they hate who coincidentally sucks.
** I think GBP were stalling that one out not Canelo but my point is the hypocrisy of claiming no duck when they claim duck on fights that weren't even possible or not even in the same weight class for example.Comment
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Exactly. This is how ducking is done, you price yourself out and make unreasonable demands. Hopkins did it with Jones when they were negotiating a rematch during Jone's prime. He actually thought he was worth 50% at that time. Jones insisted on 60/40 and Hopkins refused. I see Wilder pulling the same stunt. Price himself out and then say it was AJ who didn't want the fight.Comment
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I had no idea Joshua was moving up to a new division and coming off of long layoff like Ward was, thanks for the infoComment
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