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  • NaijaD
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    #1

    I see a lot flip-flopping frauds on here

    This AJ vs Wilder situation is really exposing a lot of you.

    I've had flashbacks to Ward vs Kovalev, the same guys who were supporting Ward and saying he shouldn't fight till he gets the amount he wants are now ignoring the financial negotiation aspects of AJ vs Wilder. You guys were alright with the rematch not happening till 7 months later yet you're mad because the AJ Wilder hasn't been signed in one week. Now I'm hearing AJ has been ducking Wilder for a while, when was the fight possible until just now?? Stop embarrassing yourselves.

    The same applies to the people who are saying the fight needs building up but in the past have refused this line of thinking when it came to proposed fights such Tank Davis vs Loma and even the first fight fight between Ward and Kovalev.... a lot of you have gone from "why can't Ward and Kovalev fight now?.... why does Ward need tune ups" to "the AJ Wilder fight needs to properly built up". YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!!

    My stance on Ward Kovalev rematch was patience as long as Ward wasn't asking for more money because that was economically unreasonable. My stance for AJ vs Wilder is the same: patience. It will happen in 2018, probably in the summer as long as money is not an issue.

    The truth is most of you aren't as noble as you think, you'll happily change your line of thinking when it suits you.
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    #2
    The same people that said Golovkin didn't deserve anywhere near 50% and should take $15 mil against Canelo (which i agreed with) are now saying Wilder deserves near 50% and that Joshua will lowball him.

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    • NaijaD
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      #3
      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
      The same people that said Golovkin didn't deserve anywhere near 50% and should take $15 mil against Canelo (which i agreed with) are now saying Wilder deserves near 50% and that Joshua will lowball him.
      Yeah that's another good example, I missed that one. I've read a couple of guys suggesting Wilder get at least 40%!!

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      • LetOutTheCage
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        #4
        A lot of truth in what OP says, lots of hypocrisy going on. The same people claiming AJ is ducking Wilder are the same people who were defending Canelo when he legitimately was ducking GGG. Ideally the AJ vs Wilder fight happens next just to shut up all this talking of running and ducking but from what Hearn has said, Wilder already has an agreement to fight Breazeale if this is the case then I would hope that Joshua faces Wilder straight after that, I would also hope the Wilder fanboys would apologizes and admit they were wrong.

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          #5
          Originally posted by NaijaD
          This AJ vs Wilder situation is really exposing a lot of you.

          I've had flashbacks to Ward vs Kovalev, the same guys who were supporting Ward and saying he shouldn't fight till he gets the amount he wants are now ignoring the financial negotiation aspects of AJ vs Wilder. You guys were alright with the rematch not happening till 7 months later yet you're mad because the AJ Wilder hasn't been signed in one week. Now I'm hearing AJ has been ducking Wilder for a while, when was the fight possible until just now?? Stop embarrassing yourselves.

          The same applies to the people who are saying the fight needs building up but in the past have refused this line of thinking when it came to proposed fights such Tank Davis vs Loma and even the first fight fight between Ward and Kovalev.... a lot of you have gone from "why can't Ward and Kovalev fight now?.... why does Ward need tune ups" to "the AJ Wilder fight needs to properly built up". YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!!

          My stance on Ward Kovalev rematch was patience as long as Ward wasn't asking for more money because that was economically unreasonable. My stance for AJ vs Wilder is the same: patience. It will happen in 2018, probably in the summer as long as money is not an issue.

          The truth is most of you aren't as noble as you think, you'll happily change your line of thinking when it suits you.
          My stance: If it happens 1-2 years from the first talks of the fight, then great, but if it happens after that: To hell with that.

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          • W1LL
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            #6
            There aren't many Deontay Wilder fans, in truth. They're just haters who can't stand seeing Anthony Joshua, a Brit, dominating Heavyweight boxing. Once the AJ-Wilder fight is over with they will find another fighter to claim AJ is ducking. It's all about tarnishing the reputation of a bonafied Champion.

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            • Randall Cunning
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              #7
              Golovkin ducking Charlo, has to fight him now

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              • 1hourRun
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                #8
                I didnt understand A DAMN THING OP wrote -- but Lomachenko, Ward, and lil G string, but look those guys hurt my feelings!

                all I know that this thread is a huddle for scared A.J fans. I smell p*ssy! I'm out diz b*tch! stay ducking the 'Bronze-Bomber'!

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                • NaijaD
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by 1hourRun
                  I didnt understand A DAMN THING OP wrote -- but Lomachenko, Ward, and lil G string, but look those guys hurt my feelings!

                  all I know that this thread is a huddle for scared A.J fans. I smell p*ssy! I'm out diz b*tch! stay ducking the 'Bronze-Bomber'!
                  No thread is complete without some drivel from 1hourmoron, thanks man.

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                  • sunny31
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by NaijaD
                    This AJ vs Wilder situation is really exposing a lot of you.

                    I've had flashbacks to Ward vs Kovalev, the same guys who were supporting Ward and saying he shouldn't fight till he gets the amount he wants are now ignoring the financial negotiation aspects of AJ vs Wilder. You guys were alright with the rematch not happening till 7 months later yet you're mad because the AJ Wilder hasn't been signed in one week. Now I'm hearing AJ has been ducking Wilder for a while, when was the fight possible until just now?? Stop embarrassing yourselves.

                    The same applies to the people who are saying the fight needs building up but in the past have refused this line of thinking when it came to proposed fights such Tank Davis vs Loma and even the first fight fight between Ward and Kovalev.... a lot of you have gone from "why can't Ward and Kovalev fight now?.... why does Ward need tune ups" to "the AJ Wilder fight needs to properly built up". YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!!

                    My stance on Ward Kovalev rematch was patience as long as Ward wasn't asking for more money because that was economically unreasonable. My stance for AJ vs Wilder is the same: patience. It will happen in 2018, probably in the summer as long as money is not an issue.

                    The truth is most of you aren't as noble as you think, you'll happily change your line of thinking when it suits you.
                    I look at these issues normally more from a competitive standpoint rather than the financial BS.

                    I was actually on the side of Ward taking his time to get to the Kovalev fight, coming off a long-lay off and serious knee issues, it was the right thing to do. People were jumping all over him, simply because they wanted to see him lose and saw Kovalev in the driving seat. Anyway both fights happened in good time, and what happened, happened.

                    Fast forward. Again I was an advocate of Canelo not rushing into a Golovkin fight until he properly acclimated to the weight and got a few more camps under his belt, and again the fight happened in good time.

                    Now - I am saying the same thing, where has all this come from overnight like AJ is moving his career along at snail pace and has been ducking Wilder?

                    I agree people flip flop when it suits them. Its always when they perceive the fighter they prefer to be in the driving seat, or the stronger fighter at that time, they want the fight straight away. But if they feel the fighter they support needs more time, because they might be younger, less experienced, rebuilding after a loss, etc. then they change their stance.

                    I try to stay consistent, why not have the fight when both guys have had a good preparation, are at the top, or as close to the top of their game as possible?

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