Why does Wilder deserves the fight more than Joseph Parker?

[mlac]

you genuinely don't know what the word talent means.

You're a good poster dude, but i think we'll have to agree to disagree that wilder is talented. Athletic? yes. Power? yes.

Technically speaking he is one of the worst heavyweight champions i have ever seen.

[New England]

We've already established that Wilder fight is bigger and nobody is arguing that.

What I want to hear is why Wilder deserving of AJ fight from a boxing fan point of view not promoter's which is what you are doing.

And no, I wouldn't be raving about them if he beaten those guys just like I'm not raving about them now that Parker beaten them. But they're still better names than 99% of Wilder's resume.

if told you more than once that wilder would be favored to beat parker. told you that he's more talented, too. you seem to be shifting goal posts around to a place where that doesn't matter.

[filup79]

KO'ing journeyman and D level opponents does not equate to the hardest puncher in the sport imo.

1 C level opponent and he couldnt KO him.

Parker looks vulnerable but he has beaten better guys than wilder in a quarter of the time Wilder has been pro. therefore he deserves the fight IMO

Talent wise, wilder is not comparable to parker, Parker would never get outboxed by Spilka for 9 rounds

What do base that Parker wouldn't get outboxed by Spilka? You do know that Spilka is southpaw. Obviously certain fighters have trouble with southpaws early on until they get used to them and adjust.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Disagree man, if Haye has the WBO by the summer that makes a lot more money than Wilder, as things are now. Unless Wilder decides to start playing the game.

Do you honestly think Haye has another world title in him though? He's shot to bits IMO. I know Parker isn't great but this version of Haye isn't even a top 10 guy IMO.

[Randall Cunning]

Do you honestly think Haye has another world title in him though? He's shot to bits IMO. I know Parker isn't great but this version of Haye isn't even a top 10 guy IMO.

I can see him beating Bellew and Parker, says more about the state of the heavyweight division more than anything. Public will lap it up. Bookies actually give Haye a slightly better chance of beating Joshua than Wilder, though think itll be a terrible mismatch. Itll break the bank though.

[New England]

You're a good poster dude, but i think we'll have to agree to disagree that wilder is talented. Athletic? yes. Power? yes.

Technically speaking he is one of the worst heavyweight champions i have ever seen.

dude, technique is not a talent! talents are what you bring with you to the sport. punching power, chin, and dexterity / speed. and at HW, size. these things are developed, they are not taught! technique is what you learn and practice and are taught, and what comes through experience.

we agree that wilder shows poor technique almost all of the time. he boxes like a novice. i've always said that. but it hasn't mattered so far, becuase he's very fast for a man his size, has almost seven feet of reach, and he hits like a mule.

wilder's the more talented fighter, you literally just told me so

[mlac]

dude, technique is not a talent! talents are what you bring with you to the sport. punching power, chin, and dexterity / speed. and at HW, size. these things are developed, they are not taught! technique is what you learn and practice and are taught, and what comes through experience.

we agree that wilder shows poor technique almost all of the time. he boxes like a novice. i've always said that. but it hasn't mattered so far, becuase he's very fast for a man his size, has almost seven feet of reach, and he hits like a mule.

wilder's the more talented fighter, you literally just told me so

Valuev is 7 foot tall, has a jaw made out of granite and a big punch does that mean he is talented to you? no he is a caveman.

We must have very different definitions of what talent is, having good genetics does not equate to 'talent' imo.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I can see him beating Bellew and Parker, says more about the state of the heavyweight division more than anything. Public will lap it up. Bookies actually give Haye a slightly better chance of beating Joshua than Wilder, though think itll be a terrible mismatch. Itll break the bank though.

Agreed, Haye-AJ would be massive especially over here in the U.K where Haye remains a big draw. I just don't think Haye has enough left to even get to an AJ payday though. I think he probably beats Bellew this time around but I'd favour Parker. As you say, it speaks volumes about the current strength of the HW division really.

[Szef]

if told you more than once that wilder would be favored to beat parker. told you that he's more talented, too. you seem to be shifting goal posts around to a place where that doesn't matter.

That he's more talented than Parker is an opinion. That his resume is worse is a fact.

And yeah, he would probably be favoured to beat him, but that's for the same reason people think he deserves the AJ fight more - the unwarranted, unjustified hype.

Wilder struggles against guys he's supposed to whitewash easily fight after fight. So does Parker. Those are facts. So I'm not buying this notion that he has a bigger chance of beating AJ than Parker. People say this because they look at Wilder as the fighter they all thought he would be, not the fighter he actually is.

Most recently, everybody seems to be convinced that Wilder would beat AJ because Wlad landed that right hand on AJ in the sixth.

'If Wilder landed that right hand, it'd be lights off' - lol please, to land it he'd have to first survive AJs onslaught from round 5, and if he would, he would have to actually set it up. Wilder, who's right hand you can see coming from miles away and who's jab isn't even in the same stratosphere as Wlad's. Ridiculous.

[New England]

Valuev is 7 foot tall, has a jaw made out of granite and a big punch does that mean he is talented to you? no he is a caveman.

We must have very different definitions of what talent is, having good genetics does not equate to 'talent' imo.

your definition of talent is wrong and you need to change it.

it is literally genetic variation and the subsequent aptitude. in this case, wilder is fast, big, and powerful, and those are talents in boxing.