Do people seriously believe Floyd Mayweather Jr could beat Gennady Golovkin at 160?

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thanks for confirming he didn't need an iv. how many times have you cut weight...I have many times. cool story about your dog tho.

Not sure how you worked that out but anyway the point is 750ml is showing a mild dehydration as opposed to a few full bags over 24 hrs for a much more severe case, and 750 ml wouldn't mask or flush anything lol, one can be dehydrated but be at the correct bodyweight, it doesn't mean you are too light it means you have a problem with your fluid balance which can be caused by many different things other than body mass.

As far as cutting weight Ive done it myself and been involved with quite a few that have, doesn't mean a thing because if you knew anything you would know people are different, their bodies behave differently to the process and not everybody uses the same methods, so your point is just blowing in the wind.

[hugh grant]

when ggg, was looking beastly, the floyd boys was protecting by saying he was too tiny for ggg, lol...
now that ggg doesn't look as frightening, the floyd boys are saying, floyd would school him...

these guys keep their flip flops on

GGG doesn't look frightening now but the fkloyd fans still don't think he'd beat GGG though

[Mr Objecitivity]

Saul Alvarez was likely 170lbs+ when he stepped in to fight Floyd, with Cotto and Maidana likely in the 160s for their fights with Floyd, so what the **** are you talking about?

Golovkin has never outmuscled a person in a fight ever, so to think that, 11 years into his run, that that is going to magically change makes you look foolish.

Kell Brook came up two full weight classes for the fight, and not once did Golovkin try to impose size on anything.

No, there was a rehydration clause in the Mayeather vs Canelo Alvarez bout.
Unlike when Canelo fought Amir Khan or Golovkin. In addition, Floyd Mayweather Jr also fought Canelo Alvarez at a catch weight of 152 pounds. So if weight didn't matter to Floyd Mayweather Jr as much as you're claiming, then why would he demand those stipulations? Fact is, you're giving Mayweather credit for feats he hasn't displayed. In fact, some of your claims are contradicted by what Mayweather has done himself. Even if you disregard the rehydration clause, the catch weight did happen.The fact that it did, proves that weight does matter to Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Also, Canelo Alvarez weighed below 170 pounds on fight night against Floyd Mayweather Jr.

As far as Maidana and Cotto are concerned, neither are as big as Golovkin. So therefore, they're irrelevant!

Yes, Golovkin did impose his size. Do you even know what it means to impose one's size? A heavier boxer usually has the following advantages over the lighter opponent:

1) Better punch resistance.

2) More effect / damage inflicting potential with every punch landed.

3) Ability to dominate the ring by controlling the position of the opponent.


Very rarely do lighter boxers manage to control the center of the ring against significantly heavier opponents.

When Golovkin was coming forward against Kell Brook, walking through nearly every punch Kell Brook threw without showing any respect for Kell Brook's power and not being discouraged / dissuaded by Kell Brook's punches. What exactly was that, other than 'imposing one's size'? Keep in mind that Kell Brook was heavier than Golovkin on fight night. Yet, Kell Brook could still barely hurt Golovkin. What do you think would happen to a much weaker and lighter Mayweather if even Kell Brook failed to discourage Golovkin? Answer is, at the very least, he would most likely suffer the same fate!

Golovkin did the following things to 'impose his size':

1) Forced Kell Brook to give up more ground compared to
any of Kell Brook's other bouts. He did this by throwing
punches that were more effective / powerful than any of
Brook's previous opponents.

2) Rarely gave up ground because Kell Brook's punches
and strength didn't have the same effect on him than
vice versa. So Kell Brook was unable to deter Golovkin
or force him to back up much.

3) Was able to inflict more damage with single punches than Kell Brook could with the multiple punches. Hence, no surprise Kell Brook's eye socket was damaged. it was due to the power of Golovkin's punches which caused it to happen.


Based on what you wrote, it doesn't even seem like you understand / know what it means for a boxer to 'impose their size'. If a boxer imposes their size, it means they force the opponent into the back foot, forcing them to give up ground and forcing them to be on the defensive more frequently than vice versa. It means they will inflict more damage with every punch they land than vice versa.

Ultimately, it doesn't matter how skilled Mayweather is defensively. If Mayweather doesn't first have the power to deter Golovkin and if Golovkin is able to walk through any of Mayweather's punches repeatedly without having any respect for his punches, power and strength, then Mayweather simply can't win this. One can't simply just evade an opponent for 12 rounds without first having something that discourages the opponent from constantly coming forward and chasing. Canelo Alvarez was able to with his power and strength. Floyd Mayweather doesn't. Therefore, Mayweather can't win this with the weight disadvantage.

[Real King Kong]

Not sure how you worked that out but anyway the point is 750ml is showing a mild dehydration as opposed to a few full bags over 24 hrs for a much more severe case, and 750 ml wouldn't mask or flush anything lol, one can be dehydrated but be at the correct bodyweight, it doesn't mean you are too light it means you have a problem with your fluid balance which can be caused by many different things other than body mass.

As far as cutting weight Ive done it myself and been involved with quite a few that have, doesn't mean a thing because if you knew anything you would know people are different, their bodies behave differently to the process and not everybody uses the same methods, so your point is just blowing in the wind.

there was no legit reason for the iv is what you're saying. it was Floyd himself that said he was extremely dehydrated, not me. if 750 ml isn't enough to mask, then why did usada ban anything over 50ml per 6 hrs?

[Bjl12]

GGG doesn't look frightening now but the fkloyd fans still don't think he'd beat GGG though

It's not about MarGGGarito. Floyd is simply old. Fuck MW...Floyd couldn't beat at least a dozen JWW, WW, or SWW guys.

Now younger Floyd...let's say the Marquez Floyd...would school MarGGGarito. Floyd had the legs, endurance/stamina, power, and chin to keep MarGGGarito confused and ineffective for 12 rounds.

Chin? Floyd's never been hurt and nobody can say MarGGGarito's power is all that...because his power has looked ordinary after fighting guys above cab-driver status.

I don't see a way prime MarGGGarito could have beaten prime Floyd, period. However, if the fight happened TODAY I'd take MarGGGarito to win via stoppage because of...age.

[Bjl12]

there was no legit reason for the iv is what you're saying. it was Floyd himself that said he was extremely dehydrated, not me. if 750 ml isn't enough to mask, then why did usada ban anything over 50ml per 6 hrs?

What is confusing? Floyd had a medically exempt saline infusion and you rabid clowns act like he was direct infusing anabolic steroids. Floyd did the paperwork so he got the medical treatment.

Manny "I no English" Pac did not do the paper work and did not surround himself with people smart enough to handle basic paper work - Roach, Arum, Koncz...so he did not get the treatment.

It's that simple.

Yall bash on Floyd for owing taxes every year because he DOESN'T file them...doesnt do the paperwork. So Floyd pays major penalties.

Typical PacFUCKS want it both ways as usual

KTFO6, UD12, UD12 to a goddamn Aussie plumber named Joe lmfao...be serious

[Bjl12]

No, there was a rehydration clause in the Mayeather vs Canelo Alvarez bout.
Unlike when Canelo fought Amir Khan or Golovkin. In addition, Floyd Mayweather Jr also fought Canelo Alvarez at a catch weight of 152 pounds. So if weight didn't matter to Floyd Mayweather Jr as much as you're claiming, then why would he demand those stipulations? Fact is, you're giving Mayweather credit for feats he hasn't displayed. In fact, some of your claims are contradicted by what Mayweather has done himself. Even if you disregard the rehydration clause, the catch weight did happen.The fact that it did, proves that weight does matter to Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Also, Canelo Alvarez weighed below 170 pounds on fight night against Floyd Mayweather Jr.

As far as Maidana and Cotto are concerned, neither are as big as Golovkin. So therefore, they're irrelevant!

Yes, Golovkin did impose his size. Do you even know what it means to impose one's size? A heavier boxer usually has the following advantages over the lighter opponent:

1) Better punch resistance.

2) More effect / damage inflicting potential with every punch landed.

3) Ability to dominate the ring by controlling the position of the opponent.


Very rarely do lighter boxers manage to control the center of the ring against significantly heavier opponents.

When Golovkin was coming forward against Kell Brook, walking through nearly every punch Kell Brook threw without showing any respect for Kell Brook's power and not being discouraged / dissuaded by Kell Brook's punches. What exactly was that, other than 'imposing one's size'? Keep in mind that Kell Brook was heavier than Golovkin on fight night. Yet, Kell Brook could still barely hurt Golovkin. What do you think would happen to a much weaker and lighter Mayweather if even Kell Brook failed to discourage Golovkin? Answer is, at the very least, he would most likely suffer the same fate!

Golovkin did the following things to 'impose his size':

1) Forced Kell Brook to give up more ground compared to
any of Kell Brook's other bouts. He did this by throwing
punches that were more effective / powerful than any of
Brook's previous opponents.

2) Rarely gave up ground because Kell Brook's punches
and strength didn't have the same effect on him than
vice versa. So Kell Brook was unable to deter Golovkin
or force him to back up much.

3) Was able to inflict more damage with single punches than Kell Brook could with the multiple punches. Hence, no surprise Kell Brook's eye socket was damaged. it was due to the power of Golovkin's punches which caused it to happen.


Based on what you wrote, it doesn't even seem like you understand / know what it means for a boxer to 'impose their size'. If a boxer imposes their size, it means they force the opponent into the back foot, forcing them to give up ground and forcing them to be on the defensive more frequently than vice versa. It means they will inflict more damage with every punch they land than vice versa.

Ultimately, it doesn't matter how skilled Mayweather is defensively. If Mayweather doesn't first have the power to deter Golovkin and if Golovkin is able to walk through any of Mayweather's punches repeatedly without having any respect for his punches, power and strength, then Mayweather simply can't win this. One can't simply just evade an opponent for 12 rounds without first having something that discourages the opponent from constantly coming forward and chasing. Canelo Alvarez was able to with his power and strength. Floyd Mayweather doesn't. Therefore, Mayweather can't win this with the weight disadvantage.

Horrible MarGGGarito logic. The same people who thought Jacobs and Ca$hnelo would be brutally stopped.

Floyd outboxes MarGGGarito to a one-sided decision with lots of clinching and pot shots. MarGGGarito could land some with his jab, but he's just so damn slow to do anything else and Floyd is too fast and has too many tools to fall into any trap "3 punch" MarGGGarito has

[j0zef]

No. Not at 160 nor at 154. The natural weight difference between them is just too large.

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there was no legit reason for the iv is what you're saying. it was Floyd himself that said he was extremely dehydrated, not me. if 750 ml isn't enough to mask, then why did usada ban anything over 50ml per 6 hrs?

Floyd is no doctor don't hang off a word, like asking a guy how bad is your headache you will get a million different responses, the 750 ml tells me .

Its not so much the volume its the time of 6hrs, its like anything in this world they set standards at the extreme level, like if a steel rod is to support a ton the standard would be for 3 tons.

The point is 750ml for a 150 lb male is not much at all a day before an event, it seems to me half the facts are out and people make up the other half to suit their agenda.

Dehydration is a length of string it varies from mild to life threating, just because IV fluids is used doesn't mean its severe especially when you know the volume was 750ml which is low, in an athlete even very mild dehydration is a concern.

He was also PED tested before the fluids and after.

This whole thing is a witch hunt by haters in a forum, if they have all this hard proof well take it to the relevant people and have something done about it, they don't they just talk sht in forums.

[Scipio2009]

No, there was a rehydration clause in the Mayeather vs Canelo Alvarez bout.
Unlike when Canelo fought Amir Khan or Golovkin. In addition, Floyd Mayweather Jr also fought Canelo Alvarez at a catch weight of 152 pounds. So if weight didn't matter to Floyd Mayweather Jr as much as you're claiming, then why would he demand those stipulations? Fact is, you're giving Mayweather credit for feats he hasn't displayed. In fact, some of your claims are contradicted by what Mayweather has done himself. Even if you disregard the rehydration clause, the catch weight did happen.The fact that it did, proves that weight does matter to Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Also, Canelo Alvarez weighed below 170 pounds on fight night against Floyd Mayweather Jr.

As far as Maidana and Cotto are concerned, neither are as big as Golovkin. So therefore, they're irrelevant!

Yes, Golovkin did impose his size. Do you even know what it means to impose one's size? A heavier boxer usually has the following advantages over the lighter opponent:

1) Better punch resistance.

2) More effect / damage inflicting potential with every punch landed.

3) Ability to dominate the ring by controlling the position of the opponent.


Very rarely do lighter boxers manage to control the center of the ring against significantly heavier opponents.

When Golovkin was coming forward against Kell Brook, walking through nearly every punch Kell Brook threw without showing any respect for Kell Brook's power and not being discouraged / dissuaded by Kell Brook's punches. What exactly was that, other than 'imposing one's size'? Keep in mind that Kell Brook was heavier than Golovkin on fight night. Yet, Kell Brook could still barely hurt Golovkin. What do you think would happen to a much weaker and lighter Mayweather if even Kell Brook failed to discourage Golovkin? Answer is, at the very least, he would most likely suffer the same fate!

Golovkin did the following things to 'impose his size':

1) Forced Kell Brook to give up more ground compared to
any of Kell Brook's other bouts. He did this by throwing
punches that were more effective / powerful than any of
Brook's previous opponents.

2) Rarely gave up ground because Kell Brook's punches
and strength didn't have the same effect on him than
vice versa. So Kell Brook was unable to deter Golovkin
or force him to back up much.

3) Was able to inflict more damage with single punches than Kell Brook could with the multiple punches. Hence, no surprise Kell Brook's eye socket was damaged. it was due to the power of Golovkin's punches which caused it to happen.


Based on what you wrote, it doesn't even seem like you understand / know what it means for a boxer to 'impose their size'. If a boxer imposes their size, it means they force the opponent into the back foot, forcing them to give up ground and forcing them to be on the defensive more frequently than vice versa. It means they will inflict more damage with every punch they land than vice versa.

Ultimately, it doesn't matter how skilled Mayweather is defensively. If Mayweather doesn't first have the power to deter Golovkin and if Golovkin is able to walk through any of Mayweather's punches repeatedly without having any respect for his punches, power and strength, then Mayweather simply can't win this. One can't simply just evade an opponent for 12 rounds without first having something that discourages the opponent from constantly coming forward and chasing. Canelo Alvarez was able to with his power and strength. Floyd Mayweather doesn't. Therefore, Mayweather can't win this with the weight disadvantage.

If there was a rehydration clause, what did Alvarez have to weigh on the night of the fight?