Do people seriously believe Floyd Mayweather Jr could beat Gennady Golovkin at 160?

[john l]

Gangster it really does make me giggle.

[Scipio2009]

He's fought all the top fighters in his division. He has one of the highest KO percentages in middleweight history. He out boxed Jacobs which a lot of people thought was impossible. He also clearly beat Canelo by decision according to the vast majority of observers. I have some problems with Sanchez and his we don't adjust philosophy but Golovkin is doing very well.

In what world is a 7-5 fight, either way, clearly beating a anything? lol.

Create whatever image you want, but you've lost your credibility here.

[Raggamuffin]

GG can't beat Floyd because he doesn't own enough skill. If Floyd were given time to bulk up to 160 he'd beat GG's ass.

[TonyGe]

In what world is a 7-5 fight, either way, clearly beating a anything? lol.

Create whatever image you want, but you've lost your credibility here.

I scored it 8-4 for Golovkin. Beating a guy by 4 rounds is a clear win. If you scored it 7-5 fine that's your opinion. Canelo foolishly gave up the center of the ring and languished on the ropes. He actually did OK when he got off the ropes.

[Scipio2009]

I scored it 8-4 for Golovkin. Beating a guy by 4 rounds is a clear win. If you scored it 7-5 fine that's your opinion. Canelo foolishly gave up the center of the ring and languished on the ropes. He actually did OK when he got off the ropes.

You can score the fight however you want, but that doesn't make your score the consensus. Adelaide Byrd's 10-2 was definitely out of the range but, depending on what you gave credit for, nearly all the scores were between 8-4 Canelo and 8-4 Golovkin (I scored it 7-5 Canelo, giving him credit for the far cleaner work).

Words matter

[Mr Objecitivity]

Dude you keep reading them just fine. And keep sayin same thing over and over and over.You are a little punk azz kid who cant talk boxing because you know s hite so you just keep coming back with same line.You so ***in ****** you keep proving my point.You keep Quoting me and TRYIN to answer so it proves you have no problem with my writing.But I'm out of here so don't choke on your candy little boy.

I can read. For sure! However, I can't FULLY understand your incoherently written posts that are full of grammatical and spelling errors. There is a difference between being able to read and being able to fully understand something.

My knowledge of boxing is sufficient enough.

If I'm coming back with the same line, then what exactly are you doing?

[Mr Objecitivity]

He could beat him 100%. Maybe even now as ridiculous as it sounds, i used to say there is no way and that GGG is too big. But look at what canelo did, he sat on the ropes evading and slipping shots the whole fight. And even used his slow feet to evade GGG as well.

Floyd is a superior boxer to canelo with better lateral movement and speed. If canelo can evade GGG, what makes you think floyd cant? Size would play a small roll because it doesnt matter how hard you hit or how big you are when your opponent is making you miss everything. Thats what Floyd would to do GGG he would just dance and jab him and occasionally throw right hands to score points and cruise to a decision he probably wouldnt even hurt GGG in the process either just dance and outbox him.

How can you use Canelo Alvarez's performance against Golovkin at 160 pounds to deduce that Floyd Mayweather could beat Golovkin at 160 pounds? There are weight divisions for a reason!

Chris Byrd made Vitali Klitschko miss a lot of punches and made him quit too. Yet, do you seriously believe Floyd Mayweather Jr would survive more than a single round against Vitali Klitschko?

In other words, it's not just Canelo Alvarez's defensive skills, but also his size (weight) which was a significant factor to his relative success against Gennady Golovkin. Something Floyd Mayweather Jr would lack heavily!

Floyd Mayweather Jr didn't have a single fight at 160 pounnds. If he could do all of those things you've mentioned to the best 160 pound boxer of the last decade, then why didn't he move up and do it when he still had the chance? Why didn't he move up to 160 pounds and develop a better legacy than Golovkin after beating him at 160 pounds? It's because, it's more likely 147 pounds was his maximum limit in terms of physically competing against somebody in size.

You're assuming Floyd is going to make Golovkin kiss 100% of all his punches. That simply ain't going to happen. He has been hit by lesser boxers already like Maidana. Having just slightly better 'boxing skills' isn't going to help him much against Golovkin if Golovkin walks through Mayweather's punches and physically controls him. If he does those things, Golovkin is going to eventually land some meaningful punches. Mayweather isn't just going to be able to evade the punches if Golovkin physically man handles Mayweather. Opponents his own size couldn't do that. Golovkin, being the much heavier boxer could and therefore neutralize Floyd Mayweather Jr's evasiveness / defensive skills.

[Mr Objecitivity]

Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but I think that he would've found his range and that Ingles Gym "slip style" would have him popping Golovkin with counters and stepping off all night. Golovkin doesn't land all that well on moving targets, made even worse by moving targets that move deliberately.

Floyd at middleweight, even at 40/41 years of age, would train his ass off and likely walk into the fight near 151/152lbs, fully fit, hydrated, and ready to fight. Golovkin has basically mastered the cut at this point, but he'd still be a 35 year old fighter dragging his body back down to the weight he's basically been at since he was 20.

Golovkin doesn't fight off of your chest, so the pace won't really be an issue if Floyd's legs are still there a bit.

You are speculating heavily. One could easily speculate that Golovkin may have adjusted to that tactic of Kell Brook as well.

Who are you comparing him to when you claim Golovkin doesn't land well on moving targets? I can assure you he definitely does! Everyone would struggle to land on moving targets more than stationary targets. That's just common sense! However, Golovkin does better against moving targets than non-elite boxres.

You're also heavily speculating at what Floyd could do in a fight against Golovkin at 160 pounds. Feats he absolutely never displayed what so ever! If you seriously think he could beat Golovkin at 160 pounds and subsequently rule the division, then why didn't he when he had the opportunity too a few years earlier? If a boxer is able to compete at a heavier weight division than their current one, they most likely would! If a boxer could compete at the heaviest weight division, they most likely would! If they didn't, it means they probably couldn't comfortably compete in that weight division.

Floyd Mayweather jr needed to fight Canelo Alvarez at a catch weight with a rehydration clause imposed where Canelo Alvarez couldn't weigh above a specific weight at fight night. Why would he need those things if he was so good that he could beat Golovkin at 160 pounds without any catch weight? Do you realize how irrational it is to assume Floyd Mayweather Jr could just step up to 160 pounds and beat the best 160 pound boxer of his era?

[Mr Objecitivity]

GG can't beat Floyd because he doesn't own enough skill. If Floyd were given time to bulk up to 160 he'd beat GG's ass.

If and buts are hypothetical. I could just as easily and justifiably claim that if Golovkin was given enough time to bulk up to heavyweight, he could beat Mike Tyson. Of course, that is just pure speculation. Objectively, we go by facts and not speculation.

Based on facts, Floyd Mayweather Jr has no feats and record at 160 pounds. Therefore, he hasn't proven himself to be a more 'skilled' boxer at 160 pounds. Otherwise, he would've already fought there and would've already produced a better legacy and record at 160 pounds than Gennady Golovkin. Floyd Mayweather Jr's feats and accomplishments below 160 pounds are for the most part, irrelevant for this match up because it is taking place at 160 pounds.

[Mr Objecitivity]

You can score the fight however you want, but that doesn't make your score the consensus. Adelaide Byrd's 10-2 was definitely out of the range but, depending on what you gave credit for, nearly all the scores were between 8-4 Canelo and 8-4 Golovkin (I scored it 7-5 Canelo, giving him credit for the far cleaner work).

Words matter

I've done a film study on Canelo Alvarez vs Gennady Golovkin. Watched it in super slow motion (0.25 speed) whilst scoring the bout. Guess what? Gennady Golovkin didn't lose any more than 3 rounds (maximum) in the entire bout if we are purely scoring the bout based on 'effective punches' landed. It was a landslide victory for Golovkin if the bout was scored using that particular criteria. I've done the same with Golovkin vs Daniel Jacobs as well and came to the exact same conclusion

Don't worry, I will create a thread and post all the gifs of all the effective punches each boxer landed in each round to prove how Golovkin won that bout lopsidedly against Canelo Alvarez.