Do people seriously believe Floyd Mayweather Jr could beat Gennady Golovkin at 160?

[john l]

This I agree with. Fair and objective answer with no signs of fanboyism.

And lets not forget that would have been floyds 6th division.And ggg 1st that's not like ggg going to lightheavy,Its like him going to cruiser at least.(that's only four 4)for ggg

[HarvardBlue]

If you didn't see the adjustments, then it's your inability to see. Doesn't mean it didn't happen!

As far as this bout goes, it is happening at 160 pounds and you do realize that Mayweather has had 0 bouts, 0 wins, 0 losses and 0 draws at 160 pounds right? Therefore, how can we infer with any degree of confidence how good Mayweather would be at 160 pounds if he hasn't ever fought here? How can we even know he would even carry some of his abilities from his accustomed weight divisions to 160 pounds, like his speed for example? Not just that, he is going to fight the best 160 pound boxer on his first fight. It doesn't look good for him!

Keep in mind that Mayweather hasn't fought anybody as big as Golovkin. Nobody at all! Only Canelo Alvarez comes close and that fight took place at a catch weight where there was a rehydration clause which prevented Canelo from rehydrating above a certain weight limit. If you think so highly of Mayweather that he could beat GGG at 160 pounds, then why did he have to fight Canelo Alvarez at a catch weight with a rehydration clause? Did you actually think that through? Yet, somehow he beats Golovkin, not just at a catch weight, but at 160 pounds? It's you that is looking like a fan boy!

Look, I am a Floyd Mayweather Jr fan and even I know he doesn't stand much of a chance at 160 pounds against Golovkin. At catch weight, sure! He has a chance like he did against Canelo Alvarez. However, I can't even see Mayweather beating Canelo Alvarez at 160 pounds, never mind Golovkin!

Ridiculous that you would even compare Marcos Maidana and Golovkin in size when Maidana didn't even have a single bout at 160 pounds. I'm not even sure if he even fought at 154 pounds. Yet, somehow they are comparable in size? Lol

Well if you can't see Mayweather that's just your inability to see it. Can't help you there.

[TonyGe]

No I don't think Floyd could beat Golovkin if Golovkin fought the proper fight. He has to impose his size and strength on Mayweather. He can't try to outbox Floyd or get cute. He has to rough Floyd up like Maidana did. Golovkin is too big for Mayweather and hits too hard. If he tries to outbox Floyd he would lose.

[PRINCEKOOL]

The Mayweather that fought Oscar De La Hoya would be Gennady Golovkin! via a 12 round decision.

[Mr Objecitivity]

And lets not forget that would have been floyds 6th division.And ggg 1st that's not like ggg going to lightheavy,Its like him going to cruiser at least.(that's only four 4)for ggg

I disagree but that point has nothing to do with this thread.

[Reloaded]

Floyd is to small at 160, at 154 Floyd schools him.

[Mr Objecitivity]

Well if you can't see Mayweather that's just your inability to see it. Can't help you there.

If I can't see what exactly? I'm not the one who has been criticizing Floyd Mayweather jr for a lack of x, y, or z abilities like you were doing with Golovkin. In fact, it's quite the contrary. I've acknowledged that Floyd Mayweather Jr is supremely skilled (I am a fan of him).

However, that doesn't mean I'm going to blindly accept that he is going to beat any boxer in any weight division. He has no feats at 160 pounds = there is no reason to infer he could beat not only any middleweight, but the best middleweight of the last decade at 160 pounds. Weight divisions exist for a reason! Choosing to pretend that it doesn't matter doesn't remove the significance of weight divisions.

[john l]

I disagree but that point has nothing to do with this thread.

What??????? the thread was about Floyd vs ggg so I don't know what you takin about.And how the hell can you not agree they are FACTS not opinion.160 would be Floyd 6th div its gggs 1st how can you disagree???????????

[Scipio2009]

I'm not denying that styles make fights. However, there is a reason why style divisions / classes don't exist but weight divisions do. You're making it seem like the style difference is a more significant factor in deciding the outcome of this bout than than weight. Which is something I can't agree with, by simply the virtue of the reason why weight divisions exist and not style divisions.

Golovkin may look ordinary when fighting opponents his own size that aren't standing right in front of him. However, it's hugely reaching to think a guy that is multiple divisions lighter can defeat him, irrespective of what style he uses, when that guy has 0 feats at 160 pounds against anybody.

That is my point!

Golovkin had major issues with Kell Brook, and Kell Brook is a big 147/smallish 154lber. Would you at least admit that much?

Weight is a factor, but only at a point; Floyd is arguably, on pure skills, the best fighter to ever put on gloves, and he's basically a big 140lber.

Floyd's obviously on a tightrope being that far beyond where he should be, but he clearly has the skills to outbox Golovkin, and Golovkin hasn't really shown the skills to nullify fighters like Floyd.

Floyd gets wrecked by Andre Ward, and I honestly wouldn't like a fight with a guy like Daniel Jacobs either (both too big, both fight on the inside, both can apply pressure well, both can compete with Floyd's foot movement).

Golovkin is basically one of the few middleweights that Floyd would consider; just basic, up and down, with no special effects.

He's basically Floyd's version of John Ruiz; when Roy made his leap, it was likely never going to be for anyone but a guy like John Ruiz (smaller heavyweight, cement feet, tough, not all that big a heavyweight puncher, etc); he wasn't gonna fight Lennox or the Klitschko or even the guys like Michael Grant.

[john l]

AND that would be an advantage right?? getting it now.Time for me to do something else not in mood to suffer fools tonight