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  • #61
    Originally posted by SilverMiles View Post
    Bad decision in my opinion. If the mission is to build a Hall of Fame career and to make money than you have to fight a guy like Cotto no matter the circumstances (unless the terms are extreme) A four-fight contract with no extension could have possibly been negotiated and completed by 2019.

    I think Spence needs to realize that the chances of facing Thurman anytime before 2019 are slim.

    Instead of fighting just once this year he could have fought one of the premier names in boxing and captured a 2nd world title in a fight he most likely would have won.
    The value of freedom should not be underestimated.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
      With Cotto walking away at the end of the year, and Pacquiao's exit coming not that long after, don't act as if your friend can point out who the fighters are when you bring them over to watch Golden Boy's cards either.

      Outside of Canelo, point to a signed fighter who magically has all this great exposure from their promoter
      Exactly, boxing has had few to no household names in the history of the sport. All it takes is a look at the historical PPV data to know this. Haymon's top guys are already making peak compfor the non-PPV tier. It's not like guys can pull a Ward and get $5 million twice to lose money on a PPV. That was an analogy (bad business by Roc Nation) Just look at what Kovalev got for those fights.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Dramacyde View Post
        Smart guy. Who in their right mind would put their career in hands of a Coke head?
        Canelo Alvarez the face of boxing 🥊 that’s who, one of the few smart fighters that avoided/declined Haymon advances three times, and looked what happened is the main man in boxing..... smart man that Canelo guy.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by LADIV View Post
          the face of boxing and boxings only cash cow...canelo
          And its working out well for him...fighting on free tv and headling a ppv are two different things...you need a promoter for that
          Saul Alvarez was basically already established before Schaefer got pushed out, is solely a PPV fighter at this point, and calls his own shots (nevermind keeping the Mexico TV and sponsors to himself and basically having an 80/20 split with Golden Boy on everything else).

          To put Canelo's success on Oscar is utterly ridiculous.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by LADIV View Post
            he is such a garbage promoter that he promoted floyd since he left top rank till they parted ways with al haymon...dont kid yourself
            Richard Schafer was the brain of gbp. Oscar is such a great promoter that he let Schafer and haymon take alot of key fighters away from him. Notice his only fighter is canelo.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Floyd is TBE View Post
              Oscar is a garbage promoter. He and his company aint **** without Canelo. Some of you fools need to stop deluding yourselves.
              Said a TMT team guy, you realize TMT is 10 times less profitable than GBP? So next time you open your big mouth, do your research first so you don’t look like a fool

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              • #67
                Originally posted by whoseyourdaddy View Post
                Canelo Alvarez the face of boxing �� that’s who, one of the few smart fighters that avoided/declined Haymon advances three times, and looked what happened is the main man in boxing..... smart man that Canelo guy.
                Canelo could leave Oscar tomorrow and do anything he wants without worry. It's been like that for years. Schaefer, Showtime, and Floyd's undercards then main event built him up fabulously. He's his own entity.

                Oscar wasnt even present for his first headlining PPV. Let's not go there.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
                  Saul Alvarez was basically already established before Schaefer got pushed out, is solely a PPV fighter at this point, and calls his own shots (nevermind keeping the Mexico TV and sponsors to himself and basically having an 80/20 split with Golden Boy on everything else).

                  To put Canelo's success on Oscar is utterly ridiculous.
                  so you think that oscar had nothing to do with the success of canelo..do you think he would have gotten this far being promoted by tuto zavala's all star boxing

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by victorythagr8 View Post
                    Richard Schafer was the brain of gbp. Oscar is such a great promoter that he let Schafer and haymon take alot of key fighters away from him. Notice his only fighter is canelo.
                    they didnt have exclusive contracts with golden boy...they were haymon fighters copromoted by golden boy like floyd was...

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Butch.McRae View Post
                      Canelo could leave Oscar tomorrow and do anything he wants without worry. It's been like that for years. Schaefer, Showtime, and Floyd's undercards then main event built him up fabulously. He's his own entity.

                      Oscar wasnt even present for his first headlining PPV. Let's not go there.
                      Are you for real? Weather you haters want to admit it or not, the truth is Oscar carried boxing in his shoulders alone for years, always had good connections with sponsors as well as with networks, HBO has always backed Oscar and their trust still intact even when he left them for Showtime. They know that, and Oscar always brings value to the network. It’s a reciprocal relationship.

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