Comments Thread For: Hearn: Inactive Fighters Calling Non-Stop Since Jacobs Signing!

[Cinci Champ]

Seriously the whole Oscar is dead and his company is one fighter is absolutely insane. Fact of the matter is Golden Boy Promotions sold over 2.5 million pay per views this year (maybe more depending on the final number with GGG) with Canelo.

Who else in the sport is doing that? I'm not hating but Canelo is probably worth more by himself than probably the entire PBC roster combined.

Just saying Oscar de la Hoya gets guys multiple fights on a premier network and has retooled his company. Hopefully fighters are smart and realize this.

no one is arguing canelo is not worth a **** ton but all u did is explain how gbp is a 1 fighter promotion. the reality is if canelo retired or left gbp or lost bunch fights in a row gbp would be in trouble lets just be honest. they are literally like the 4th choice these days besides to a select few latin fighters

[LOCOMEX89]

no one is arguing canelo is not worth a **** ton but all u did is explain how gbp is a 1 fighter promotion. the reality is if canelo retired or left gbp or lost bunch fights in a row gbp would be in trouble lets just be honest. they are literally like the 4th choice these days besides to a select few latin fighters

I get what your saying Canelo makes that company not just survive but thrive right now. Jorge Linares, Miguel Cotto, Jezerrel Corrales, David Lemeiux, Jo Jo Diaz, etc......are getting multiple fight dates on HBO that's my point. While yes PBC has overall better talent yet those guys are only fighting once or twice a year simply isn't good enough for elite talent.

HBO is giving Golden Boy Promotions fight dates that simply some haven't earned yet the Russell Jr, Spence, Charlo's, etc.....are waiting and waiting for fights to showcase there talent. NO pun intended but there is a Golden oppurtunity for these guys on HBO that they need to seize and Oscar de la Hoya obviously has there ear.

[killakali]

As you mention Jacobs IS a core guy doe & he IS going to HBO now. I don't see why Haymon would be overly loyal to any channel forever or 100% of the time. As the manager you kinda gotta play with everyone to up your & your fighters upside. The less people you play well with the less people making you offers & the fewer bidding wars you are involved in.

And what do you mean leverage ESPN???? Whats ESPN got to do with anything with PBC? They had a deal it didn't work out & now TR gots a deal with ESPN where they show one card on 3 different channels from round to round lmfao.

Idk if ESPN is THAT much of a player to leverage anything from or do anything with necessarily.

I meant Showtime. He wants to leverage Showtime with the A fighters with his stable. With 18 major shows next year HBO will have more than Showtime has WCB shows but that is a different story.

I meant Showtime. For Haymon this deal doesn't help him at all. Jacobs has a promoter, an exclusive network contract and a manager that all come before him so his influence is nil.

All of his 154 pound crop that may move up don't have Jacobs as a dance partner or his 168 pound class.

Who wouldn't want to see jacobs vs Charlo or vs Benavidez or DeGale etc? Those fights aren't possible now.

With those fights Haymon is guaranteed to have the winner while now Jacobs options will be Lemieux, Canelo, GGG rematch etc which are bigger fights in most cases (Not Lemieux vs a Charlo fight for sure) and this also sets a precedence. Now that Frampton and Jacobs are doing this it will be a lot easier for others to do it.

Haymon will go back to the days of when he had Jermain Taylor on HBO and signed with DiBella. He still will make money and have a powerful position but it won't be even close to the power he had for the first year of PBC. He wouldn't let his guys sign contracts with promoters for a reason and now that he has lost so much money and most of his A and B list guys can't even get two fights a year they are getting restless and leaving.

We know Hearn and Haymon's previous snug relationship has deteriorated. Hearn has taken shots in the past with saying these guys are getting paid monopoly money and his criticism of Haymon having Frampton fight in Texas. I think the tension reached its high point when Haymon had DeGale and Selby not resign with Eddie. Now it has came full circle.

[killakali]

Unless Danny starts magically selling out arenas, I don't really see what added benefit Hearn brings. I think HBO was the key variable and correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that Eddie came with HBO.

I think Danny would've went with HBO without Hearn in a heartbeat.

Like the mention of Spence lol every promoter in the sport wants to sign him for good reason. He won't lose at 147 period.

HBO wouldn't sign Jacobs without a promoter. They won't deal direct with Haymon and now that Haymon is just a bit player with Jacobs since he now has a promoter and already had a manager, Haymon is just one of four voices

[killakali]

I'd love to see Spence sign with Hearn. Hope he's the next guy Hearn does a deal with.

And glad to see Hearn getting these calls cuz he's the best promoter in the game in my eyes today & him coming to the US is a potential game changer for this market cuz mfers are gonna need to put in work to keep up with Hearn. Hearn, unlike most American promoters, actually knows how to promote his fighters +/& maybe more importantly an event.

He definitely is one of the best promoters. These guys only have advisor contracts with Haymon so they can sign with Eddie and just let their Haymon contracts expire and stick with just their managers and save that 10%

[NahMean]

Hearn can make someone a star way better than any other promoter.. So all these undefeated guys like Spence, Thurman, Garcia and even Wilder should sign with him. Wilder is a champ an has nearly 100% KO's but no one knows him.. What has DiBella done for him? Heavyweight champs are supposed to be on top of the world. Instead he is known as bumsquad by the majority.

If he was with Hearn, he would have easily got Wilder big fights and he would have already fought guys like Parker, Fury Whyte or even a Haye.. Just one of those names would instantly make him a much bigger name worldwide and in the UK.. especially with Hearn behind you actually promoting you and getting you publicity.

Hearn isn't a advisor, he isn't taking shots at Haymon.. Haymon just advises his fighters.. It's the job of a promoter to get fights for his fighter. The advisor/manager isn't responsible for making fights.. AJ has a advisor/manager but you will rarely see or hear from him.

[Eff Pandas]

For Haymon this deal doesn't help him at all.

Jacobs fighting helps him more than Jacobs not fighting. And if Jacobs can become The Man by beating GGG in a rematch or Canelo his value & worth for everyone connected to him skyrockets. Its a W with potential to be a huge W.

Who wouldn't want to see jacobs vs Charlo or vs Benavidez or DeGale etc? Those fights aren't possible now.

Haymon fighters have fought on HBO before. Hell Jacobs fought on HBO before this deal. I hate that some people act like HBO & Haymon don't do business together at some higher clip than anyone else doesn't do business with some other entity.

Boxing is divided in about 12 different ways with networks, promoters, managers, abc groups, weight divisions & so on & so forth. Its hard to make a fight in general in boxing. I don't see that Jacobs moving to HBO with Hearn is gonna make it even an inch harder than it was without HBO, Hearn & Jacobs coming together.

With those fights Haymon is guaranteed to have the winner while now Jacobs options will be Lemieux, Canelo, GGG rematch etc which are bigger fights in most cases (Not Lemieux vs a Charlo fight for sure) and this also sets a precedence. Now that Frampton and Jacobs are doing this it will be a lot easier for others to do it.

Isn't that good. More guys on the same network?

Haymon will go back to the days of when he had Jermain Taylor on HBO and signed with DiBella. He still will make money and have a powerful position but it won't be even close to the power he had for the first year of PBC. He wouldn't let his guys sign contracts with promoters for a reason and now that he has lost so much money and most of his A and B list guys can't even get two fights a year they are getting restless and leaving.

Haymon has power cuz he's Haymon. PBC seemed to have added very little to his level of power to me. And generally I think it brought more criticism of him & made a joke of him more than it did anything else. So idk that there is any great loss with doing business with non-PBC en******.

We know Hearn and Haymon's previous snug relationship has deteriorated. Hearn has taken shots in the past with saying these guys are getting paid monopoly money and his criticism of Haymon having Frampton fight in Texas. I think the tension reached its high point when Haymon had DeGale and Selby not resign with Eddie. Now it has came full circle.

Well Haymon has misplayed his hand to some degree I think we can all agree & Hearn is a pretty straight shooter so idk if Hearn is taking shots so much as speaking on the obvious.

I mean Spence is maybe the most crazy potential guy in boxing today besides Joshua & this poor bastard isn't even on the schedule 5(?) months after winning his first belt. This is not how a serious manager should be handling a guy with so much potential. And this is what happened with Thurman & Jacobs already. Those guys had some good performances & they f#cking sat for months on end & were out of the publics attention.

You can't move a guy towards his highest potential in the sport by keeping them on the sidelines so long.

If Haymon can't secure dates HE NEEDS to sign these guys to promoters who can secure them dates & keep them in the publics attention. Its a all around L for Haymon, the fighter, the sport in general & for us fans to not have these guys fighting & its a W all around for keeping them active however you can keep them active all around too.

Its pretty simple when you think about it like that that this is a great move for Jacobs & hopefully will be a great move for Spence next & maybe Thurman or LSC & other guys soon after.

[deanrw]

Amazing how it all came full circle.

2014 - Everyone runs to Al, "We don't need promoters. They steal our money!"
2017 - Runs to promoters, "please promote me."

[Pigeons]

Hearn and Haymon are in bed... Haymon is an advisor, can't advise and promote - conflict of interest, reason why Dibella works so closely with Haymon, how do you think the Brook /Spence Jr. Fight happened? Haymon pulls the strings, Jacobs to Hear - per Haymon - these fighters are ultra loyal to Haymon

According to Fat Dan, Jacobs has left Haymon but won't announce it publicly out of respect for Haymon.

[Jubei]

Funny that there are actual human beings on this website still defending Haymon, thats cracking me up. Then I realize that these people voted Trump too.