Here's Where All The Floyd Cheat Theories Fail

[ADP02]

Take some time to think about this.

We are talking about the World Anti-Doping Agency.

Ok. think about that for a second.

Then ask yourself: would the World Anti-Doping Agency make their bare minimal compliance level as good as possibly can be to feel secure that there is no form of abuse?


Ok. So by saying that USADA can just do the "minimal," what you mean is that USADA acted in a manner that was completely WADA compliant, right? Think about what that means.

The event already occurred so there was no reason to fast track the BS RETRO TUE!!!

Novitsky said that there is a thorough vetting process for RETRO TUEs that can take weeks if not months. The statement occurred when he was asked why a guy who took an IV is taking months to get sorted out.


Do you understand what is meant by the minimum? That USADA does all the steps that is expected of them but USADA doesn't follow thru with it like they could have.

So Floyd and his doctor come up with the BS excuses then that is all the USADA TUEC has to go on.

Here is but one example:
"In July 2015, Rupp and his coach Alberto Salazar were accused by former members of the Oregon Project of manipulating the TUE system for performance gain and faking symptoms in an effort to be prescribed legal thyroid medications. Those medications could help with a runner’s energy levels, allowing an athlete to train with more intensity and volume. Rupp, who won the bronze medal at the 2016 Olympic marathon, and Salazar have strongly denied those accusations."




"There are three pillars in which the whole TUE system rests.

“The first is an honest athlete, the second one is that you need a doctor with the integrity and the ethics to not also manipulate the system, and the third one is that you need credible oversight from the sport’s governing body and then WADA,” he said.
“If any one of those three things fails, then the TUE system can be abused.”



and then there is the fact that WADA is not even likely to review the BS RETRO TUE as there was no request, no monetary compensation and as WADA representative said, they were not even monitoring the case of Floyd Mayweather.



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[travestyny]

How was that irrelevant?


You bring up Floyd while he is in heavy duty training mode not a Floyd in his final day before the fight! That is irrelevant!


I presented to you a Floyd that makes weight EASILY and orders a 5 course meal just BEFORE his weigh-in!!!! SHOOTs DOWN Floyd and YOU right there!!!


I used Floyd's own words ... SHOOTs DOWN Floyd and YOU right there!!!
SHOOTs DOWN Floyd and YOU right there!!!


Floyd admits that his walking weight is close to his weigh in weight! 150, 148!! 146 + We saw Floyd drinking adequately = 148? 149?
Floyd eats = 150?
DO THE MATH!!!!
How can someone be so close to if not right on his walking weight (for the past decade says Floyd) and people believe that he was dehydrated to the point that he needs BANNED IVs???? He did NOT need an IV

SHOOTs DOWN Floyd and YOU right there!!!



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WHY THE **** ARE YOU DUCKING MY QUESTIONS???? BEFORE I SMACK DOWN THE NON-SENSE YOU HAVE ABOVE, ANSWER MY ****ING QUESTIONS, DUDE.

THE ****? YOU ARE BLATANTLY DUCKING NOW. I THOUGHT YOU DON'T DUCK AND DEFLECT!!!! YOU'RE A ****ING EMBARRASSMENT.


GO ANSWER THE ****ING QUESTIONS. HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I AKSED NOW?????????? I ANSWERED 2 ****ING ESSAYS FROM YOU AND YOU WON'T ANSWER 3 QUESTIONS.


STOP BEING A BlTCH AND ANSWER!!!!!

[travestyny]

The event already occurred so there was no reason to fast track the BS RETRO TUE!!!

Novitsky said that there is a thorough vetting process for RETRO TUEs that can take weeks if not months. The statement occurred when he was asked why a guy who took an IV is taking months to get sorted out.


Do you understand what is meant by the minimum? That USADA does all the steps that is expected of them but USADA doesn't follow thru with it like they could have.

So Floyd and his doctor come up with the BS excuses then that is all the USADA TUEC has to go on.

Here is but one example:
"In July 2015, Rupp and his coach Alberto Salazar were accused by former members of the Oregon Project of manipulating the TUE system for performance gain and faking symptoms in an effort to be prescribed legal thyroid medications. Those medications could help with a runner’s energy levels, allowing an athlete to train with more intensity and volume. Rupp, who won the bronze medal at the 2016 Olympic marathon, and Salazar have strongly denied those accusations."




"There are three pillars in which the whole TUE system rests.

“The first is an honest athlete, the second one is that you need a doctor with the integrity and the ethics to not also manipulate the system, and the third one is that you need credible oversight from the sport’s governing body and then WADA,” he said.
“If any one of those three things fails, then the TUE system can be abused.”



and then there is the fact that WADA is not even likely to review the BS RETRO TUE as there was no request, no monetary compensation and as WADA representative said, they were not even monitoring the case of Floyd Mayweather.



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You are trying so damn hard. Get out of here with this bullshlt.

1. If USADA does enough to be minimally compliant with WADA, THEN THEY ARE COMPLIANT WITH WADA AND WADA IS SATISFIED. You're sitting here trying to argue that USADA didn't do enough when WADA disagrees. That's pretty ****ing dumb. Again, this is the World Anti-Doping Agency. They aren't trying to make it easy to cheat, fool.

2. The TUEC is to complete the application ASAP. Need proof of this?

From the ISTUE:

6.7 The TUEC shall decide whether or not to grant the application as soon as possible, and usually (i.e., unless exceptional circumstances apply) within no more than 21 days of receipt of a complete application.

2 ****ing days for 3 doctors to figure out if an athlete can have an IV. I think that's more than enough!

And you're stlll on this dumb shlt saying that Floyd's doctor was able to trick 3 specialists. LMAOOOOOO. Get the **** out of here.

These are ****ing professionals, dude. What are you smoking????

From the ISTUE:

a. TUECs should include at least three physicians with experience in the care and treatment of Athletes and a sound knowledge of clinical, sports and exercise medicine. In cases involving Athletes with impairments, at least one TUEC member should possess general experience in the care and treatment of Athletes with impairments, or possess specific experience in relation to the Athlete’s particular impairment(s).

Plus you're wrong about this having to be an emergency, or an acute situation. But I'll leave that for when you ANSWER MY ****ING QUESTIONS!!! I'm really shocked you are blatantly ducking now!!!

[travestyny]

Yo, ADP02, you're looking real bad out here, son.

please answer every question clearly.

Please answer post #826. I'm dying to hear these answers that you always DEFLECT AND DUCK FROM.

You come here every single day. Why haven't you answered yet?

What the actual ****??? You just skipped all of my questions

WHY THE **** ARE YOU DUCKING MY QUESTIONS????

Let's try this one more time. Could you be so polite as to break up my post, and respond specifically to each question. I've done this for two of your essays, and you don't seem to mind essay writing, so I think you can handle this.

1. What logical reason would Floyd Mayweather have to cycle off of PED's before testing starts, but then cycle back onto PED's throughout training camp when testing is on, as you have suggested? Do you realize that you are suggesting that he is PERPETUALLY on PED's.

2. Option 1:
Floyd Mayweather and Mayweather Promotions, and USADA and all of the people behind it get together, decide that they will allow Mayweather to cheat, and say, "Hey, the best way to do this is to get a physician to tell an incredible lie that the 3 independent TUEC doctors can't see through (don't worry, it will work...if not, we will pay them off), and then we will get the DCO to witness the entire cheating scheme (we'll pay him off too), we'll document everything that happens (don't worry about the paramedic...we'll pay him off), and we'll fill out paperwork to be filed online. We'll send it to WADA as well. Hell, we'll tell Pacquiao about it according to the rules. We'll tell NSAC about it as well. Did I mention we will tell WADA about it. This is going to be great! Don't worry about a thing. Oh yea, we'll take some dirty piss before the IV and have that thrown in to be tested. Don't worryyyyyyy. This is great!

Option 2:
Instead the convo goes, "Hey, Floyd. We're on the way over. Oh, you need to finish up some (wink wink) things? Ok. See you after the weigh-in bud. TBE, Son!"

What logical reason would Mayweather and USADA have for choosing option 1 over option 2? DOES IT MAKE SENSE THAT ANY RATIONAL HUMAN BEING, MUCH LESS MANY INTELLIGENT EXPERTS IN THEIR FIELDS, WOULD CHOOSE OPTION 1 OVER OPTION 2 FOR ANY REASON??? PLEASE EXPLAIN.

Don't even think about DEFLECTING to Lance Armstrong who didn't have a TUE approved by 4 doctors, but only 1. Was not looked into by WADA. Did not have a DCO with him. Did not give a sample before the IV. Yea...you see the difference now?


3. Any proof of the DCO being bad at taking the specific gravity of a urine sample?



That's it. Enjoy

actually, one more:

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3. You keep bringing up Mosley as if that is relelvant. OK show me the video and make your point about this video. Then let me know what that proves when comparing it to a Floyd that makes weight EASILY at a weigh in ....

From what I remember and saw, Floyd was probably training hard at that point. I would have to see it again.

A. Do you believe this shows a dehydrated Mayweather? If yes, you believe this because he was working out at the time of the DCO coming, correct?

B. Do you think it's possible that he went on a run or did some other type of work out before the weigh-in? Possibly the night before the weigh in (I think he usually goes running late..around 1am or something) and didn't rehydrate after (why would he rehydrated before a weigh-in)? I think you semi-answered this one. I'll give you a pass on this question.

C. Do you believe that it's possible that he had become dehydrated in the course of training and because he had to maintain weight, never hydrated back to a normal level?

D. Do you agree that it makes sense that, just as in this example, he gave his partial sample IMMEDIATELY, which means there was no delay on the initial sample.

E. Don't you think the people at WADA are smart enough to know whether testing would be compromised when giving a partial sample immediately and then another sample sometime after?

Let's see if you can answer honestly.

[Shape up]

so we have proved that usada has omitted protocol and code articles from wada rules, gave fluid IVayweather a retro tue against wada rules, was given a retro tue for an infusion at his house, which is prohibited at all times without a prior tue and was able to pick the start and finish dates of testing, paid an exorbitant amount of money to usada compared to other fights they have tested for, i have shown how the ABP can be beaten, its time for the truth fluid IVayweather is a ped cheat

[kafkod]

Am sure one person can make loads of money from exposing him. Thats why i laugh at all these conspiracy/trolling but all these people who we know hates him. Am sure they are all digging for informations partaining this.

yet pac is the one juicing right.

why would anyone make money exposing floyd? so if i came out and said i have documents showing floyd failed a test and it was confirmed, is someone gonna mail me a check or something?

It is possible that somebody had documents or information like that and made a lot of money by not exposing Floyd. Hush money, in other words.

I'm not saying it happened, just pointing out that it's a possibilty.

[travestyny]

so we have proved that usada has omitted protocol and code articles from wada rules, gave fluid IVayweather a retro tue against wada rules, was given a retro tue for an infusion at his house, which is prohibited at all times without a prior tue and was able to pick the start and finish dates of testing, paid an exorbitant amount of money to usada compared to other fights they have tested for, i have shown how the ABP can be beaten, its time for the truth fluid IVayweather is a ped cheat

I can literally smash every single one of your statements, here, but it's been done so much that there really isn't any point to do so anymore.

But let me just show how you have no idea what you are talking about, and you're quite ******.

Again, as I said they omitted code, again, they omitted code, code is not protocols,

What about excluding protocol as well as WADA code

so we have proved that usada has omitted protocol and code articles

Suddenly you know what the word protocol means, huh?
Tell me, who taught you the definition of protocol? Who would that be?

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[koolkc107]

We are talking about one of the most polarizing figures in the history of sports.

Arrogant (to some).

A convicted wife beater.

A man caught on film spewing racism.

A man proud of profligate public displays of wealth.

And on and on and on.

There are literally millions of people who spent all kinds of money in the hopes he'd get his azz kicked.

They hate him...a lot.

Yet, after all of this?

Zero.

Not one piece of concrete indisputable evidence he ever cheated.

Yeah, you got rumors.

But not one substantiated.

You would think that one guy of the tens or hundreds in those labs over 7 years would look to leak a bad test result and get paid handsomely for it.

Never happened.

You would think that someone at USADA with access to the records would blow the whistle.

Nope.

WADA gets those records too and they have NO DOG IN THE HUNT. Surely they would reveal something if there was something to reveal?

Crickets.

They got Lance, they got Marion, they got scores of other athletes fabulously popular or just as able financially to bribe folks as Floyd.

The popular athletes got taken down.

But hated Mayweather? Let's give him a pass.

And, oh yeah, all of those samples are STILL THERE.

They can be retested.

With his ABP, I am certain comparisons to some of Floyd's samples over time have indeed been made.

Still crickets.

With all this supposed cheating, which all these rumors, with all this hate for Floyd, not one concrete thing has every come to light.

Isn't that odd?

I asked these questions over 3 weeks ago.

Not one of them have been answered adequately yet.

There has been an incredible amount of deflection, misappropriation, deceptiveness trying to pose as fact, and flat out lies.

But no real explanation for the questions I posed.

Part of the way thru, I asked some additional ones.

I asked, if it was such a big deal, why Hauser sat on the story for 4 months.

I asked why no one else in the press thought it was worthy of controversy for four months.

I asked why no one has sued or petitioned that the fight be declared a no contest.

See, that what happens when someone is caught cheating.

There are consequences and they are immediate.

There is reporting in the media and it is immediate.

We didn't see that in Floyd's case.

We still haven't seen it in Floyd's case.

We won't see it in Floyd's case.

Why?

'Cause he didn't cheat.

Proof of the effectiveness of this thread is that most of those posters with their conspiracy theories don't even feel comfortable coming into this thread to spout their nonsense.

One poster even started a copycat thread as a "safe space" for posters who could not hang here.

And that's fine.

They can spout their nonsense to each other.

But, it won't answer any questions.

And it won't be the truth.

[koolkc107]

People would lose their minds

Floyd probably cycled off for the McGregor fight thinking he didnt need it. Its definitely safe to say that in Floyd's first fight without using PEDs he struggled with a fighter who was less than an amateur and even lost 3-4 rounds.

I shouldn't say first fight. I don't think Floyd started using PEDs regularly until the De La Hoya fight. That's when he became ultra aggressive outside of the ring and the "Money" moniker was born. All that machismo is from too much testosterone. He had already been soundly defeated by Castillo 8-4 if being generous. He first probably took them for the rematch then stopped for a while. Then he got slapped around by Judah and knew his career was either going to be over or he needed help. Going against De La Hoya he knew that fight would be his chance to become a superstar. Even though he lost the fight, he still got the Split Decision win on his record. From there he had no choice but to do them but he had the money to make it happen.

Everytime I convince myself that there is no way in hell Lou could have any more bullshyt left to crap out, dude proves me wrong.

This speculation is so idiotic, I won't even bother trying to break it down point by point, I'll preserve it as it so I can come back to it everytime I need a laugh.

But, since you think you can succeed where other butthurts have failed, maybe you can take a crack at a few questions they don't seem to be able to answer.

1) The IV story was reported in May. What took Hauser and the rest of the press 4 months to write anything about it?

2) Why didn't Pac sue Mayweather for an illegal IV, if it was cheating? Why did Pac not seek to have the fight declared a no contest and have an immediate rematch ordered if it was cheating?

3) Why would WADA respond to the media firestorm over RUSADA with sanctions of that signatory and decertifications of Russian labs, but ignore another even bigger media shytstorm concerning one of the most hated athletes in modern history?

These are the questions that need logical answers.

All of them concern en****** Floyd could not possibly bribe and buy off.

All of them concern en****** who have it in their best interest to bust and expose Floyd, yet it hasn't happened.

I know you won't even try to answer these.

You'll either come up with some half-assed nonsense, make a vulgar personal attack, or both.

But as bad as you want it to be so, it won't be reality Lou.

[koolkc107]

It is possible that somebody had documents or information like that and made a lot of money by not exposing Floyd. Hush money, in other words.

I'm not saying it happened, just pointing out that it's a possibilty.

Well, you could come up with a million conspiracy theories as to how someone possibly cheated.

But, most of them don't match up to what we know about how things are done.

For example, any incriminating documents or info wouldn't be the property of or accessible by just one or two individuals.

Results from a WADA approved lab (and keep in mind Floyd would have no idea which US labs his samples were being tested by) go to both USADA and WADA concurrently.

As had been said before, there are just too many moving parts for bribery to be realistic.

There's always going to be someone with access who didn't get paid.