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  • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
    No, you are not paying attention.

    a) You tried to push the blame of receiving the IV away from Floyd and unto the DCO and USADA.

    I pointed out that you were WRONG! It's Floyd and his doctor that need to verify prior to using the BANNED substance/method to be used in their case, check if there are no alternatives and that they would feel that they can get a RETRO TUE NOT USADA.




    b) You said to look at the Russian athletes as an example. Well, now that I am, you are saying "It doesn't matter"??? WHAT????

    Well, there was not 1 but many athletes cheating in this case and NO, the Floyd IV scandal was NOT bigger than the Russian scandal ... not even close! Floyd's scandal was big in boxing but was in and out of the news after a day or so. Russian scandal was big news up to the Olympics of last year. WADA KNEW about this scandal since 2010 and did very little about it in 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 and even 2015 the scope should have been wider. Not until there was heavy pressure from the media did they do something about it and their investigation was narrow when it should have been much wider in scope!

    Again, not until more pressure by the media that it was even a wider scandal (not just track and field). WADA eventually did more but many people still criticized WADA on how they had handled it for all those years!!!


    1) With Floyd, you have 1 guy and where the organization is not even a signatory of WADA and WADA said that they were not monitoring Floyd Mayweather's case! LOL


    2) We heard about the Russian scandal and what WADA did, right? What did we hear about WADA doing with Floyd's case? CRICKETs!!! They didn't say that they monitored ...... Like I said, WADA stated that they were not monitoring Mayweather's case!

    "However, the WADA spokesperson added: “This case is not one that is monitored by WADA because the World Boxing Council is not a signatory to the Code."


    3) In either case, WADA review is optional. WADA does NOT review all cases, especially ones that they are not requested to do so and cases where the NADO approved the TUE.


    4) Let's be real. What would WADA see and know? Whatever Floyd's doctor and USADA presents them as information. You think that information would show exactly what happened or only what they wanted to show? As stated already, the key is Floyd and his doctor's note. Floyd's paid doctor can lie thru his teeth and present a plausible case. USADA did not thoroughly vet and do proper investigation and so they just relied on Floyd's doctor's note!!!!

    Novitsky said RETRO TUEs are thoroughly vetted and can take weekS if not months. Floyd got one BS RETRO TUE rubber stamped IN NO TIME! No thorough vetting!



    5) USADA knows that all they need to do is follow the protocol but do the bare minumum and WADA would do nothing!



    6) Now add what the WADA TUE Expert said about Floyd's IV scandal:
    "Smells bad, red flag, USADA was not being independant, murky waters, Floyd's situation was not a good reason for TUE, ...."



    7) Only 1 organization received $150, 000 for testing that 1 fight and that was USADA.

    WADA gets paid when there is a request to review a TUE application but there was no request. On a case that they were not even monitoring!!! Yet you guys are trying to push this off from USADA onto WADA. How convenient.


    8) You conveniently deflected from WADA being criticized for doing relatively nothing for years to oh you didn't mention that some Russian athletes were banned from going to the Olympics.

    Well, wrong again. I actually did say that not all made it to the Olympics but many did BUT that is not even the point!!!!



    I'm was not here to criticize WADA but your example was wrong and it shows that things can happen even on a wide scale right under WADA's nose yet you guys say that it cannot happen with Lance Armstrong. Ooops, I meant Floyd Mayweather?

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    Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
    Like I said, you are the one that is not paying attention.

    In your example of Russian athletes, WADA was informed in 2010 about this scandal. They shuffled their feet for years.

    If Russia would have changed things and not make it so obvious, WADA would have taken too long and found nothing!



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    Originally posted by koolkc107 View Post
    Retroactive TUEs by definition do not have to be verified prior. After all these posts, you still don't know that? You have clear and undeniable reading comprehension problems.

    Now, as to the Russians and WADA sanctions on RUSADA.

    I need you to pay attention here because I do this thing that seems to be pretty rare among those posting in this thread...it's called logical thinking.

    I have asked why, if Floyd cheated, has WADA not done anything to USADA. I cited the complete reaming WADA did and continues to do to RUSADA as proof of what happens when a signatory doesn't comply with the WADA Code.

    As a rebuttal, you chose to put forth that it took 5 years from the time WADA first knew of the Russian corruption to WADA finally taking action.

    The problem with this is obvious to anyone with a whit of common sense (there's that logic again).

    If WADA was compelled to finally take action IN RUSSIA DUE TO MEDIA HEAT IN THE US, WHY IN GOD'S NAME WOULD THEY DO ZERO IN THE US WITH ANOTHER SCANDAL GENERATING MEDIA HEAT...IN THE SAME DAMNED YEAR????????

    Let me get this straight so I understand your ******ed ass clearly.

    WADA, bending to US media heat after 5 years, is finally going to do something about nameless Russian athletes...BUT, GIVEN INSANE REPORTING ON ONE OF THE MOST HIGH PROFILE AND HATED FIGURES IN THE HISTORY OF SPORTS CHOOSES TO DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING THE SAME DAMNED YEAR?

    ARE YOU FUQUING CRAZY?

    WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU?

    DO YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE THE CRAP YOU ARE SPEWING?

    IF IT IS 1 GUY, WOULDN'T IT BE THAT MUCH EASIER?

    YOU ARE SAYING THEY WILL GO UP A WHOLE COUNTRY'S ASS WITH A MICROSCOPE, BUT LEAVE ONE GUY ALONE?

    WHEN THEY SUPPOSEDLY HAD ALL THE EVIDENCE THEY NEED TO BURY HIM RIGHT AWAY?

    IS THIS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?

    Alright, enough yelling.

    My offer still stands.

    If you really think Floyd is guilty, let's petition WADA and the press to reopen the case.

    Put together an essay explaining in detail why he is a cheat and we will send it in a press release to all sports media outlets.

    Ball in your court, son.

    Lets see how you responded to this

    ADP02
    a) You tried to push the blame of receiving the IV away from Floyd and unto the DCO and USADA.

    I pointed out that you were WRONG! It's Floyd and his doctor that need to verify prior to using the BANNED substance/method to be used in their case, check if there are no alternatives and that they would feel that they can get a RETRO TUE NOT USADA.
    Like you have been doing now for all your responses. You avoided the above like the plague and went off into a tangent with your one liner!!!



    I already responded to your post about WADA, Floyd and USADA.
    a) WADA said that they are not monitoring Floyd Mayweather's case.
    b) Unless there is a request, it's optional for WADA to review a TUE
    c) Approved TUE, it's optional for WADA to review a TUE
    d) All WADA TUEC would see is what Floyd and his doctor would have WANTED them to see.
    e) USADA can do just the minimum. That is, meet all the basic checkpoints that WADA would check for and they would NOT get in trouble. Examples, did USADA use a WADA approved LAB, USADA established and used a TUEC, was there a TUE form filled out with documentation and so on. All done, then it's OK for WADA.

    BUT the above is all optional for WADA.

    f) When they are requested to review a file, WADA gets compensated ($$$) but there was no request!

    d) Actually, the WADA TUEC wouldn't even know that they were looking at Floyd's case in which WADA said, they were not even monitoring!!!




    LOL - Pay attention to THIS
    - WADA had a lot more information about the Russian athletes than they had on Floyd. All that WADA had is what Floyd and his doctor wanted them to see!!!
    - WADA knew about this BEFORE the media got a hold of it!
    - WADA had whistle blowers that came out with information.
    - WADA asked a reporter to help find more info during those years. So WADA had information already on their lap! People were frustrated that with that information, they took so long!
    - WADA knew that the Russian scandal was HUGE and knew that it didn't just affect an athlete. It affected the whole system. The athlete, the supposed WADA accredited LAB, NADO, and so on.
    - Crazy you say?
    I still cannot believe that you think that a case that they were not monitoring was more important to them than the Russian scandal? That is crazy
    - You continue to say it's easier to go after 1 guy with nothing to go on as far as what they have and in which they were NOT even monitoring versus all the information that was pouring in on the Russian's scandal?
    - WADA had information on the Russian scandal in 2010. Then comes 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 and still initially didn't consider expanding their efforts even though it was obvious that this was happening in other sports too(not just track and field)!!!

    - This was not a one time thing. After 2010, this issue didn't stop. WADA knew that it was an on-going problem. In 2014 Olympics, they saw that it continued to get out of control and WADA knew it wouldn't stop.


    AGAIN, WADA was criticized for their effort and that it took so long for them to get the ball rolling. With Floyd, there was no request to look at anything and it's OPTIONAL for WADA to even review the TUE!!!




    You TRIED to push the BLAME from Floyd and his doctor to the DCO and USADA but as I pointed out YOU WERE WRONG!


    You TRIED to push this off of you know who and onto WADA's responsibilities BUT who was not even monitoring Floyd Mayweather case and as I told you, USADA can just do the bare acceptable minimum.



    The responsibility was on USADA not WADA. USADA got paid $150, 000 to make sure that this was wrapped of quickly ... and as they reported, it was wrapped up soon after Floyd requested for the BS RETRO TUE!




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    • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
      Good post.

      I just wanted to add that it makes sense for Floyd to stay with USADA. They do the ABP which makes it more difficult to cheat. So the more tests he takes that are overseen by USADA, the better.

      Floyd picks the START and END Dates!!!!

      If others who do NOT have the money and power that Floyd has can cheat then Floyd can as well.


      ABP can be beat easily. Someone who tried (experimented) to beat it did on his first try. The "spikes" can be controlled if done right.

      Micro dosing is one of many ways to beat it.

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      • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        Floyd picks the START and END Dates!!!!

        If others who do NOT have the money and power that Floyd has can cheat then Floyd can as well.


        ABP can be beat easily. Someone who tried (experimented) to beat it did on his first try. The "spikes" can be controlled if done right.

        Micro dosing is one of many ways to beat it.
        Yea. He chooses the start and end date, but according to you he uses PEDs perpetually, so what exactly is your point???

        I can’t believe you are writing to me after blatantly ducking my questions again. The **** is wrong with you? You are a disgrace.

        Now show me studies of someone beating the ABP after taking over 100 random tests spanning about 7 years in which they are subjected to target testing, steroidal module, etc. just stop with your bullshlt.

        You want to compare the ABP done on Mayweather with a guy testing himself 14 times and doing no target testing?

        Are you incapable of processing differences in situations???? Seriously. You have some problems, dude. Obviously the more tests you do, the better.

        If you are talking about the guy I think you are. He tested himself once a week, 14 times, by having his blood drawn only. How is that equivalent to over 120 random tests, over years, urine and blood?
        Last edited by travestyny; 10-27-2017, 06:32 AM.

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        • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
          Thank you. Once again, please answer every question clearly. I'll make this short for you. Don't answer any other post here until you answer this one. I see you conveniently didn't answer to my post that talked about all of your deflections. Don't duck this one like a bltch. ANSWER THIS POST FIRST.

          1. What logical reason would Floyd Mayweather have to cycle off of PED's before testing starts, but then cycle back onto PED's throughout training camp when testing is on, as you have suggested? Do you realize that you are suggesting that he is PERPETUALLY on PED's.

          2. Option 1:
          Floyd Mayweather and Mayweather Promotions, and USADA and all of the people behind it get together, decide that they will allow Mayweather to cheat, and say, "Hey, the best way to do this is to get a physician to tell an incredible lie that the 3 independent TUEC doctors can't see through (don't worry, it will work...if not, we will pay them off), and then we will get the DCO to witness the entire cheating scheme (we'll pay him off too), we'll document everything that happens (don't worry about the paramedic...we'll pay him off), and we'll fill out paperwork to be filed online. We'll send it to WADA as well. Hell, we'll tell Pacquiao about it according to the rules. We'll tell NSAC about it as well. Did I mention we will tell WADA about it. This is going to be great! Don't worry about a thing. Oh yea, we'll take some dirty piss before the IV and have that thrown in to be tested. Don't worryyyyyyy. This is great!

          Option 2:
          Instead the convo goes, "Hey, Floyd. We're on the way over. Oh, you need to finish up some (wink wink) things? Ok. See you after the weigh-in bud. TBE, Son!"

          What logical reason would Mayweather and USADA have for choosing option 1 over option 2? DOES IT MAKE SENSE THAT ANY RATIONAL HUMAN BEING, MUCH LESS MANY INTELLIGENT EXPERTS IN THEIR FIELDS, WOULD CHOOSE OPTION 1 OVER OPTION 2 FOR ANY REASON??? PLEASE EXPLAIN.

          Don't even think about DEFLECTING to Lance Armstrong who didn't have a TUE approved by 4 doctors, but only 1. Was not looked into by WADA. Did not have a DCO with him. Did not give a sample before the IV. Yea...you see the difference now?


          3. Any proof of the DCO being bad at taking the specific gravity of a urine sample?



          That's it. Enjoy

          actually, one more:

          4:




          A. Do you believe this shows a dehydrated Mayweather? If yes, you believe this because he was working out at the time of the DCO coming, correct?

          B. Do you think it's possible that he went on a run or did some other type of work out before the weigh-in? Possibly the night before the weigh in (I think he usually goes running late..around 1am or something) and didn't rehydrate after (why would he rehydrated before a weigh-in)?

          C. Do you believe that it's possible that he had become dehydrated in the course of training and because he had to maintain weight, never hydrated back to a normal level?

          D. Do you agree that it makes sense that, just as in this example, he gave his partial sample IMMEDIATELY, which means there was no delay on the initial sample.

          E. Don't you think the people at WADA are smart enough to know whether testing would be compromised when giving a partial sample immediately and then another sample sometime after?

          Let's see if you can answer honestly.

          OK, so you found the video. Let me see what you got (link to video) and what is your question that relates to Floyd Mayweather on the day of a weigh-in?


          Here is pretty much all you need to know though.

          1) Did Floyd have a relatively light work out the night before the weigh in to stay SHARP and perhaps go over his game plan?

          OF COURSE that is more than possible. In fact, that would be similar to what Floyd said in his interviews during his final days before the fight!!! A little bit at the gym to stay sharp.


          Was he crazy enough to exhaust himself and drain himself to the point that he is not just extremely dehydrated at that point, he would be even more dehydrated later the next day? Nope, that doesn't make any sense for someone as experienced as Floyd and who is being monitored by Alex Ariza!!!

          Alez Ariza makes sure that his athletes are very well hydrated and I'm sure that he put extra effort for Floyd. Ariza even went to Memo Heredia to "consult" with him!!!


          2) But is that what Floyd admits to or does he boast that his walking weight is just 150, 148 and said this right after getting the IV? Oooops!!!!




          "I'm not one particular fighter that has drained himself 20 or 30 pounds. I'm a fighter that walks around at 150, 148...I'm extremely happy with everything...right now, my house is real, real peaceful and that's the way I like it," stated undefeated pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather, who invited FightHype.com into his home less than 24 hours before he steps into the ring to face Manny Pacquiao"





          Who did Floyd fight before Manny? Oh that would be Maidana. Check this out and how this smashes any and all of your BS .... You just love taking that bullet for your hero Floyd.


          Floyd tells you that he makes weight EASILY. Remember?



          "FightHype.com got an exclusive invite to hang out with undefeated pound-for-pound king Floyd "Money" Mayweather a day before for his May 3 title unification with WBA welterweight champion Marcos Maidana. Check out the scene as Mayweather orders a massive 5-course breakfast to help pack on the pounds before he gets set to make the 147-pound weight limit at Friday's weigh-in."







          OR how about this:
          "FLOYD MAYWEATHER REVEALS HIS PLANS FOR FINAL DAYS LEADING UP TO PACQUIAO SHOWDOWN"

          "I'm just at home relaxing...watching playoff basketball, watching movies, and just, you know, go to the gym a little bit and shake out ...meditate, sit down, cool out," stated undefeated pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather, who talked about what's in store for him in the final days leading up to his May 2 showdown with Manny Pacquiao"





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          Last edited by ADP02; 10-27-2017, 01:04 AM.

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          • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
            OK, so you found the video. Let me see what you got (link to video) and what is your question that relates to Floyd Mayweather on the day of a weigh-in?


            Here is pretty much all you need to know though.

            1) Did Floyd have a relatively light work out the night before the weigh in to stay SHARP and perhaps go over his game plan?

            OF COURSE that is more than possible. In fact, that would be similar to what Floyd said in his interviews during his final days before the fight!!! A little bit at the gym to stay sharp.


            Was he crazy enough to exhaust himself and drain himself to the point that he is not just extremely dehydrated at that point, he would be even more dehydrated later the next day? Nope, that doesn't make any sense for someone as experienced as Floyd and who is being monitored by Alex Ariza!!!

            Alez Ariza makes sure that his athletes are very well hydrated and I'm sure that he put extra effort for Floyd. Ariza even went to Memo Heredia to "consult" with him!!!


            2) But is that what Floyd admits to or does he boast that his walking weight is just 150, 148 and said this right after getting the IV? Oooops!!!!




            "I'm not one particular fighter that has drained himself 20 or 30 pounds. I'm a fighter that walks around at 150, 148...I'm extremely happy with everything...right now, my house is real, real peaceful and that's the way I like it," stated undefeated pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather, who invited FightHype.com into his home less than 24 hours before he steps into the ring to face Manny Pacquiao"





            Who did Floyd fight before Manny? Oh that would be Maidana. Check this out and how this smashes any and all of your BS .... You just love taking that bullet for your hero Floyd.


            Floyd tells you that he makes weight EASILY. Remember?



            "FightHype.com got an exclusive invite to hang out with undefeated pound-for-pound king Floyd "Money" Mayweather a day before for his May 3 title unification with WBA welterweight champion Marcos Maidana. Check out the scene as Mayweather orders a massive 5-course breakfast to help pack on the pounds before he gets set to make the 147-pound weight limit at Friday's weigh-in."







            OR how about this:
            "FLOYD MAYWEATHER REVEALS HIS PLANS FOR FINAL DAYS LEADING UP TO PACQUIAO SHOWDOWN"

            "I'm just at home relaxing...watching playoff basketball, watching movies, and just, you know, go to the gym a little bit and shake out ...meditate, sit down, cool out," stated undefeated pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather, who talked about what's in store for him in the final days leading up to his May 2 showdown with Manny Pacquiao"





            .

            What the actual ****??? You just skipped all of my questions and posted some irrelevant bs.

            Can you please answer all of my questions? Thanks. If they are too hard for you to answer, just let me know.
            Last edited by travestyny; 10-27-2017, 03:29 AM.

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            • Originally posted by Shape up View Post
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              The attention of each Major Event Organization is drawn to the clauses which must in all circumstances be reproduced without substantive change in the Major Event Organization’s Anti-Doping Rules. Such clauses (specified in Article 23.2.2 of the Code) are highlighted in yellow in the text of the Model Rules.
              Wow, that really seals the deal eh-----------------• Appendix 1 - Definitions-------------------------------------------------------------QUOTE=Shape up;18149217]From the contract----------- Rules 4 mayweather and pacquaio agree that articles 1 through 10 and 24.2 and the associated definitions, of the world anti doping code shall be the substantive anti doping rules for all purposes in relation to the competition and the period of pre and post competition testing provided for in this agreement----this sounds like substantive change to me, what do you think gimp
              substantive change
              Where has this been answered, the code is the WADA bible, usada omitted articles from the code, 23.2.2 says you can't change the code, usada has changed it, even if you say again that the other parts aren't as important, then that's still substantive change, breaking WADA rules

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              • Originally posted by Shape up View Post
                Where has this been answered, the code is the WADA bible, usada omitted articles from the code, 23.2.2 says you can't change the code, usada has changed it, even if you say again that the other parts aren't as important, then that's still substantive change, breaking WADA rules
                The WADA Code is relied on in the USADA Protocol. All of the code you mention is there and it is stated that it MUST be followed. Showed you this many times. You are stuck on ******.

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                • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                  I already responded to your post about WADA, Floyd and USADA.
                  a) WADA said that they are not monitoring Floyd Mayweather's case.
                  b) Unless there is a request, it's optional for WADA to review a TUE
                  c) Approved TUE, it's optional for WADA to review a TUE
                  d) All WADA TUEC would see is what Floyd and his doctor would have WANTED them to see.
                  e) USADA can do just the minimum. That is, meet all the basic checkpoints that WADA would check for and they would NOT get in trouble. Examples, did USADA use a WADA approved LAB, USADA established and used a TUEC, was there a TUE form filled out with documentation and so on. All done, then it's OK for WADA...
                  If you are going to spew every excuse that comes off the top of your head, could you at least have the common decency to source your accusations?

                  Where are the links supporting what you say?

                  Of course WADA is monitoring the testing in Floyd's fight.

                  The contract (cited numerous times in this thread) says that all findings would be reported directly to both USADA and WADA.

                  TUEs (retroactive and otherwise) are granted by the signatory. However, WADA can intervene (without being paid to intervene) if the TUE is granted under improper circumstances.

                  Obviously, this case was done the right way for a retroactive TUE to be granted. (see pg 2 below).

                  https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/defau..._july_2016.pdf

                  Floyd or his doctor would have zero control over what WADA sees or doesn't see. As previously stated ad nauseum by myself and others here (particularly Travestyny, who has thoroughly trashed your nonsense better than I ever could) WADA gets the same info USADA does and gets it WHEN USADA gets it. The DCOs give those samples to WADA certified labs. To say that USADA did "the minimum" means you are really unfamiliar with what this is all about. USADA must adhere to WADA protocols and methods EVERY TIME or they run the risk of getting suspended as RUSADA was. WADA accredited labs must adhere to WADA methods and protocols EVERY TIME or they run the risk of being de-certified.

                  Where a lot of folks got confused was because of the media shytstorm started by Hauser which was based on a false premise. For example, ESPN's report starts out this way.

                  On the eve of his record-breaking megafight with Manny Pacquiao on May 2, pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather took an intravenous injection of saline and vitamins that was banned under World Anti-Doping Agency guidelines, according to a report by SB Nation on Wednesday.

                  http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...cording-report

                  The problem with ESPN's (and almost everyone else's) reporting is that what Floyd did WAS NOT BANNED UNDER WADA GUIDELINES. The WADA protocol (again, cited many times in this thread by myself and others) fully allows what transpired.

                  But, it sounds better if you say that instead of the truth which would have read like this:

                  On the eve of his record-breaking megafight with Manny Pacquiao on May 2, pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather took an intravenous injection of saline and vitamins that required a The****utic Use Exemption (TUE) under World Anti-Doping Agency guidelines. The TUE was subsequently obtained retroactively, according to a report by SB Nation on Wednesday.

                  That's more like how Kevin Iole originally reported it back in May and it is no surprise that we heard nothing but crickets in May.

                  Mayweather also applied for, and was given, a the****utic use exemption (TUE) for rehydration purposes after the May 1 weigh-in. He took two separate mixes. The first was a mixture of 250 ml of saline and multi-vitamins. The second was a 500 ml mixuture of saline and Vitamin C. He was urine tested both before and after taking the solutions.

                  Nevada rules permit the mixes that Mayweather took, but because USADA was overseeing the testing he applied for and was granted the TUE for them.

                  All tests came back negative
                  .

                  https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxin...182400390.html

                  It was a non-story and rightfully so.

                  WADA is an oversight agency. If it involves one of their signatories they don't need to get paid to review a case- that's their job. No one had to request anything.

                  As far as RUSADA and Russia, either you don't understand what I am contending there or you are willfully ignoring it because to say I have a point destroys a lot of yours.

                  I am not saying WADA didn't sit on their hands for years in the face of allegations.

                  I am saying that when they did move, it was because of a media shytstorm...one a whole lot smaller than the media shytstorm generated by Floyd's IV.

                  So, what sense does it then make for WADA to ream RUSADA and the Russian labs while doing nothing to USADA and the American labs when Floyd's scandal happened THE EXACT SAME TIME THEY WERE STOMPING ALL OVER RUSADA.

                  Why put out one fire while leaving a much more visible one burning?

                  The ONLY ANSWER to that last is that there was nothing to put out, nothing WADA COULD SANCTION.

                  WADA HAD (AND STILL HAS) ALL THE INFO from the testing. NO INVESTIGATION WAS NEEDED since they already had all the data they needed to make a case if there was one.

                  And here we are, 2 and a half years later, and WADA has not seen fit to investigate anything since there is no violation to investigate.

                  But here's something else.

                  Where has the media been for 2 and a half years?

                  How come no one (not even Hauser) has had anything to say in all this time?

                  You would think that in 2 and a half years SOMEONE IN THE MEDIA would have uncovered more if there was more to be uncovered.

                  You got plenty of angry former Money Team guys running around.

                  You have claimed the labs were involved in covering things up so why are they also not able to be bribed by the media to reveal damaging info? You think Hauser and others haven't already tried by now?

                  THERE IS NOTHING TO REVEAL.

                  EVERYONE KNOWS IT EXCEPT A FEW BUTTHURT MESSAGEBOARD POSTERS WHO CAN'T SEEM TO GET THE IMAGE OF THEIR HERO GETTING SCHOOLED FOR 12 ROUNDS OUT OF THEIR MINDS.

                  Remember, try to source contentions you forward as fact.
                  Last edited by koolkc107; 10-27-2017, 08:02 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                    USADA can do just the minimum.
                    Take some time to think about this.

                    We are talking about the World Anti-Doping Agency.

                    Ok. think about that for a second.

                    Then ask yourself: would the World Anti-Doping Agency make their bare minimal compliance level as good as possibly can be to feel secure that there is no form of abuse?


                    Ok. So by saying that USADA can just do the "minimal," what you mean is that USADA acted in a manner that was completely WADA compliant, right? Think about what that means.

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                    • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                      OK, so you found the video. Let me see what you got (link to video) and what is your question that relates to Floyd Mayweather on the day of a weigh-in?


                      Here is pretty much all you need to know though.

                      1) Did Floyd have a relatively light work out the night before the weigh in to stay SHARP and perhaps go over his game plan?

                      OF COURSE that is more than possible. In fact, that would be similar to what Floyd said in his interviews during his final days before the fight!!! A little bit at the gym to stay sharp.


                      Was he crazy enough to exhaust himself and drain himself to the point that he is not just extremely dehydrated at that point, he would be even more dehydrated later the next day? Nope, that doesn't make any sense for someone as experienced as Floyd and who is being monitored by Alex Ariza!!!

                      Alez Ariza makes sure that his athletes are very well hydrated and I'm sure that he put extra effort for Floyd. Ariza even went to Memo Heredia to "consult" with him!!!


                      2) But is that what Floyd admits to or does he boast that his walking weight is just 150, 148 and said this right after getting the IV? Oooops!!!!




                      "I'm not one particular fighter that has drained himself 20 or 30 pounds. I'm a fighter that walks around at 150, 148...I'm extremely happy with everything...right now, my house is real, real peaceful and that's the way I like it," stated undefeated pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather, who invited FightHype.com into his home less than 24 hours before he steps into the ring to face Manny Pacquiao"





                      Who did Floyd fight before Manny? Oh that would be Maidana. Check this out and how this smashes any and all of your BS .... You just love taking that bullet for your hero Floyd.


                      Floyd tells you that he makes weight EASILY. Remember?



                      "FightHype.com got an exclusive invite to hang out with undefeated pound-for-pound king Floyd "Money" Mayweather a day before for his May 3 title unification with WBA welterweight champion Marcos Maidana. Check out the scene as Mayweather orders a massive 5-course breakfast to help pack on the pounds before he gets set to make the 147-pound weight limit at Friday's weigh-in."







                      OR how about this:
                      "FLOYD MAYWEATHER REVEALS HIS PLANS FOR FINAL DAYS LEADING UP TO PACQUIAO SHOWDOWN"

                      "I'm just at home relaxing...watching playoff basketball, watching movies, and just, you know, go to the gym a little bit and shake out ...meditate, sit down, cool out," stated undefeated pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather, who talked about what's in store for him in the final days leading up to his May 2 showdown with Manny Pacquiao"





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                      Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                      What the actual ****??? You just skipped all of my questions and posted some irrelevant bs.

                      Can you please answer all of my questions? Thanks. If they are too hard for you to answer, just let me know.


                      How was that irrelevant?


                      You bring up Floyd while he is in heavy duty training mode not a Floyd in his final day before the fight! That is irrelevant!


                      I presented to you a Floyd that makes weight EASILY and orders a 5 course meal just BEFORE his weigh-in!!!! SHOOTs DOWN Floyd and YOU right there!!!


                      I used Floyd's own words ... SHOOTs DOWN Floyd and YOU right there!!!
                      SHOOTs DOWN Floyd and YOU right there!!!


                      Floyd admits that his walking weight is close to his weigh in weight! 150, 148!! 146 + We saw Floyd drinking adequately = 148? 149?
                      Floyd eats = 150?
                      DO THE MATH!!!!
                      How can someone be so close to if not right on his walking weight (for the past decade says Floyd) and people believe that he was dehydrated to the point that he needs BANNED IVs???? He did NOT need an IV

                      SHOOTs DOWN Floyd and YOU right there!!!






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