Here's Where All The Floyd Cheat Theories Fail

[ADP02]

You need to stop popping up when the thread is ready to die. This is boring already.

1. You have so little proof about Floyd and so much about Lance and his boys...... who didn’t even have to deal with WADA for some time or inadequate testing. Give up

2. No. 55% was the artificial level that Hauser gave for an example. If I remember correctly, you need 3.4 liters to dilute that to a passing score. You refuse to tell us how Floyd would do hat for random testing over weeks for years (because you can’t).

3. You keep bringing up that he dictates when testing begins and ends, but you have REFUSED, DUCKED, DRFLECTED, or anything else you want to call it about why he cycles off befor testing but according to you was doping even the day before the fight.

4. Still no logical answer to why the paper trail.

5. No logical answer to how he passed so many tests with undiluted urine. You think he is microdosing in camp and was never caught in over 100 tests. And no, not the tests that Lance took.

Let me stop here. It’s obvious how much of a butthurt fan you are. You’ve said the most ridiculous things ever. He keeps his HT at an artificial level for 24/7 over 2months. Bullshlt.

Why don’t you try to answer the OP’s question. When he shuts you down, you can wash and repeat your usual “he’s a deflector” mumbo jumbo.

Or you can try to make some ****ing sense, which you do not. All you did above was cry and talk about Anti-Doping from as far back as 14 years ago!!!

You don’t duck and deflect? Well then how about finally answering about the papertrail. Case in point: you said Frei would have passed if he drank a liter of water. Then why wouldn’t USADA just tell him to drink a liter of water???? What’s your excuse for them documenting the IV. LET ME GUESS. SOMETHING ABOUT LANCE ARMSTRONG GETTING A RETRO, BUT NOT FROM 3 INDEPENDENT DOCTORS, AND PASSING SOME TESTS THAT WERE SUB PAR. Did I get that right DEFLECTOR??? Yea. You don’t deflect.... bullshlt. Your whole argument is a deflection to 7 years ago and more!

pop up? Is this a new way of DEFLECTING?
I see another 6 pages today.... can I respond? LOL



1. Lots of solid proof that Floyd didn't require no BANNED IVs!!!



Lance dealt with and without WADA! It didn't make no difference!


It's all relevant. Testing was new for the corticosteroid that Lance got caught with. It was just introduced by UCI days before Lance got tested POSITIVE!


Relatively new EPO tests came back with su****ious results for Lance.

At that point the cheater re-evaluates, tweaks his cheating program and hopes to not get caught. If someone like Floyd and Lance get caught, they have a back-up plan .... YES, even if they didn't require no BS RETRO TUE!!!

and you basically DEFLECTED my point!!! BOTH Delayed and both used BANNED IVs




2. No you say? No to what? What a DEFLECTOR!!!

Yes, it is a cat and mouse game. my point 1 above brings up some examples but there are many many more examples.

Yes, the percentage of athletes caught remains relatively the same!

Yes, in 2025, testing will be better than 2015 and cheaters will adapt and find a different way to cheat.

Yes, other athletes such as Lance could be tested 365 days a year. Floyd knows and actually SETS his own START and END DATEs!


55%? What is your point?
That athletes do not try to dilute their blood? That diluting cannot bring down HT levels? Sorry but they can and they have done so.


How about numbers that are more relevant?
Floyd's weight was relatively the same and Floyd admits to making weight EASILY and his walking weight is close to 150, 148 and has been for a decade? Now add that USADA/WADA state to drink 2 cups per pound lost when dehydrated.
Floyd said he was extremely dehydrated due to his 3 BS excuses.

Do you agree that it makes no sense????

150 lbs - 30 days out
149 lbs - 2 weeks out
148 lbs - 1 week out
146 lbs - hours before IV

If you are still not sure, check out the gifs below of Floyd drinking fluids (alternative ... CHECK!)





3. Floyd or Lance? LOL
There are multiple scenarios. Some PEDs are cycled off, some are micro dosed, some athletes use a combination of drugs at micro dose levels so they cannot get caught unless the DCO surprises them and shows up at the door soon after and gets the athletes sample. Floyd delayed giving his full sample 6+ hours and used BANNED IVs .... drrrrrr

and YES, Floyd DOES DICTATE his START and END DATEs .... Lance couldn't and many other athletes cannot YET, they use PEDs and yet you keep on making it sound like Floyd cannot have been using PEDs? WEIRD!!!!


DEFLECTOR: So do you think that Floyd took out blood for a Vampire facial before a fight? He did some of the steps, such as extract blood put it in a centrifuge (Ooops) .... but to make his eyes pretty just before a fight???? LOL



4. So now you are DEFLECTING to paper trail, deflecto? Lance, Floyd still had to use them BANNED IV bags, still BOTH left a paper trail, deflecto!


5. DEFLECTO, make me stop YOU right here. All you post is how IMPOSSIBLE it would have been for Floyd to have passed TESTs but time and time again, this can be proven by checking out what other cheats did in the past. So when I do bring up scenarios, you laugh but then I back most of them up with true events that occurred.

a) Cheaters can make mistakes or bad decisions or use PEDs at the wrong time? Yes! I posted an admitted cheat who said this!
b) Does delaying help the cheater pass a test? Yup! Some PEDs stay in your system for hours so if you delay 6+ hours that can easily go from a positive to a negative result!
c) You bring up maintaining a high HT. Well, I bring it up as a scenario not that that is exactly what Floyd did since there are multiple scenarios but as one of many scenarios since Floyd is the MASTER of when he tells USADA, go ahead and test me .... NOW and stop ....NOW.
d) Going back to maintaining artificially high levels. The UCI had thresholds of 50%. If you went over that you were suspended. That is, unless you were able to receive a certificate indicating that you have high levels naturally.
Some athletes did get an exemption (certificate) to be able to cycle while being over the threshold of HT=50. They would get this exemption since they were supposedly naturally high (>50). They would have to be checked monthly to prove that the HT>50 is always occuring. Some of those people later got caught or admitted to using PEDs!!!

So again, not BS as you said.


As for your BS that it is hard to get a TUE from TUEC, that is a load of BS! What does the TUEC base their info on? Floyd's, Lance's or other athletes physician's BS note!!!



Here are three pillars in which the whole TUE system rests.

“The first is an honest athlete, the second one is that you need a doctor with the integrity and the ethics to not also manipulate the system, and the third one is that you need credible oversight from the sport’s governing body and then WADA,” he said. “If any one of those three things fails, then the TUE system can be abused.”



When asked how a case can take so long for a simple IV, Novistky brings up to get your RETRO TUE, it requires that there is a thorough vetting process that can take weeks if not months NOT a rubber stamped one that Floyd received.


and now we can see that your cheater Floyd didn't require no BANNED IV .... look at him drinking away!


USADA/WADA/NSAC all say to drink fluids as the alternative and just a couple of cups is sufficient for each pound lost.


As we can both see, Floyd drank adequately and was assisted by Dr Alex Ariza, who Floyd THANKED!!!



Here is Floyd drinking from a 1.5L bottle while Manny drinking from a small bottle. Manny comes in heavier than Floyd on fight night. LOL









Here is Dr Alex Ariza making sure that Floyd is nice and hydrated.




Look at the smile on Floyd's face! LOL

Don’t run away like usual, bltch. Answer the question about the papertrail.

I bet you duck out like usual

When you give your bullshlt answer that makes no sense.... go home to your Pac-Man doll and cry.

I respond, you DEFLECT ... what is new, DEFLECTO?


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[Shape up]

23.2 Implementation of the Code
23.2.1 The Signatories shall implement applicable Code provisions through policies, statutes, rules or regulations according to their authority and within their relevant spheres of responsibility.
23.2.2 The following Articles as applicable to the scope of the anti-doping activity which the anti-doping organization performs must be implemented by Signatories without substantive change (allowing for any non-substantive changes to the language in order to refer to the organization’s name, sport, section numbers, etc.):
• Article 1 (De nition of Doping)
• Article 2 (Anti-Doping Rule Violations)
• Article 3 (Proof of Doping)
• Article 4.2.2 (Speci ed Substances)
• Article 4.3.3 (Wada’s Determination of the Prohibited list)
• Article 7.11 (Retirement from Sport)
• Article 9 (Automatic disquali cation of individual Results)
• Article 10 (Sanctions on Individuals)
• Article 11 (Consequences to Teams)
• Article 13 (Appeals) with the exception of 13.2.2, 13.6, and 13.7
• Article 15.1 (Recognition of Decisions)
• Article 17 (Statute of Limitations)
• Article 24 (Interpretation of the Code)
• Appendix 1 - Definitions----------------------- So how did they have substantive change to all of these articles above article 10, when clearly it's stated by the code that usada cannot Change it under the rules

Again, here they have broken WADA rules, you want to elaborate

[ADP02]

Just shut up with your bullshlt already. It’s ****ing old.

1. Just because you are physically able to drink doesn’t mean it’s the best course of action.

2. De la Hoya was in weight a month before his Pac fight, yet he was dehydrated? Is it possible?

3. How much weight do you think Mayweather lost during his bout of dehydration with Mosley.

Your bullshlt is ridiculous. Do you ever read the shlt that you post? Do you think he actually goes around with an IV everywhere or what?

Stick to talking about Lance. I think that’s all you can handle. When it comes to this situation, you say the dumbest shlt.

1. So Floyd used drugs too?

Check out those gifs of Floyd drinking away. Floyd was able to use an alternative. STRIKE #1

Floyd used a BANNED IV STRIKE #2

Floyd's weight - We know what it was. Just like his previous fight weights at 147!!! and admits to making the weight EASILY STRIKE #3

You drink like Floyd did, you recoup from his BS excuses!!!

BUT they are BS EXCUSES as you already know and I mentioned numerous times ... STRIKE #4

Shows no significant signs of dehydration! STRIKE #5

Vitals and physical exam and Floyd's signed pre-fight form? Floyd was good. Nothing serious was reported by the NSAC physician, the vitals nor Floyd!!!!
STRIKE #6



2. When was the last time Oscar came in at 145? Check it up! LET ME KNOW DEFLECTO!!!
Floyd on the other hand made weight EASILY for that weigh in and his previous ones.

Was Oscar making interviews right after getting an IV saying that he is not like others that need to drain their bodies 15-20 lbs? Oh wait, Oscar's walking weight is much higher than 145lbs Ooops!

Finally, Oscar looked spent jogging around a track. Floyd said he felt strong in there and knew that Manny realized Floyd's strength .... you think Manny realized Oscar's strength even after the IV?

For Oscar, IVs were not banned.

For Floyd, IVs were BANNED. Floyd should have and did use alternatives!



3. You keep bringing up Mosley as if that is relelvant. OK show me the video and make your point about this video. Then let me know what that proves when comparing it to a Floyd that makes weight EASILY at a weigh in ....

From what I remember and saw, Floyd was probably training hard at that point. I would have to see it again.


and to bring up what you said about me then see your pathetic responses about Floyd being dehydrated .... Oh brother! All I can see is that you are responding like this because it's your hero Floyd.
Maybe I can show you a video of me training and the scales before and after my session. Yup, I'm dehdyrated and can lose quite a bit of weight and your point??? Did I need 2 IVs? NOPE!!!


Floyd's weight was 146 against Manny. Similar to Berto which was his next fight and his Juan Marquez fight which was back in 2009 and similar to his other 147 fights!!!

GO DEFLECTO!!!




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Is there something I’m supposed to answer here?

1. NSAC HAS NEVER FOUND A BOXER DEHYDRATED. RIGHT OR WRONG?

2. DE LA HOYA WAS ON WEIGHT A MONTH OUT. RIGHT OR WRONG?

3. MAYWEATHER MADE WRIGHT EASILY FOR MOSLEY AND WAS DEHYDRATED. I KNOW YOU SAW IT SO DONT PRETEND YOU DIDNT, F@G

4. STOP DUCKING MY QUESTIONS. ANSWER THE PREVIOS POST.

Yes but you DEFLECTED.

1. If USADA gets an objective opinion from NSAC physician(s) examination, vital signs, weight, previous weights, Floyd's admission to making weight easily and so on ..... yup, you ignored all that and MORE!


2. My understanding is that the week of, he was making weight but AGAIN, you IGNORE all my points. Go read DEFLECTO!!!

Who do you believe was truly dehydrated, Oscar or Floyd?

Before you say that you need all the facts, you have less to go on with Oscar, it appears, due to your 1 liner than Floyd. LOL


3. Show me the video ....

Someone training hard and losing weight(dehydrated)? Geez, I'm stumped!

and what does that have to do with Floyd at the weigh in?


4. Done(previous post) ... your turn .... and when you are finished (presuming you do not DUCK again) go check out the other posts you DUCKED!!!!

[travestyny]

DEFLECTO STRIKEs AGAIN!!!!


I answered your questions and more and you come back with .... NOTHING, ZIPPO, NIENTE, NADA,


I answered this in the past too but if you check it out,
USADA can just do the minimal and the same results can occur!!! WADA wants NADO's to do more than the minimum but in Floyd's case, USADA does the minimum required.

They thoroughly vet out other athletes where there are cases that take months but Floyd, he gets his BS RETRO TUE rubber stamped!


Go check out the documentation and thought process for other ahtletes that were vetted out by USADA. If Floyd went thru a similar vetting process, Floyd would be suspended for using a BANNED IV!!!



Even Floyd fans agree that it's shady.

Yet USADA doesn't do a thourough investgation on Floyd?

Why? oh, yeah ==> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$



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WHERE IS YOUR ANSWER? STOP DEFLECTING! WHY WOULD THEY LEAVE A PAPERTRAIL THAT COULD INCRIMINATE THEMSELVES INSTEAD OF JUST TURNING THEIR BACK TO THE IV?


YOU READY TO TRY FOR A THIRD TIME?

[travestyny]

Again, here they have broken WADA rules, you want to elaborate

You’re a dummy. Go read my past messages to you. Maybe get ya moms to help you comprehend it.

[Shape up]

You’re a dummy. Go read my past messages to you. Maybe get ya moms to help you comprehend it.

It's a fact, you deal in fiction

[Shape up]

OU MEAN VIA THIS CONTRACT: ******ny post 801
Quote:
Mayweather and Pacquiao agree that sections 5, 9-13, 16, 17(a), and 21 of the United States Anti-Doping Agency Protocol for Olympic and Paralympic Movement Testing shall constitute the procedural rules applicable to any Results Management Services provided hereunder. NOW WE WILL ADD THE RESTthese provisions shall APPLY ONLY TO THE EXTENT THEY DO NOT CONFLICT WITH THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT. This provision shall survive termination of this agreement why do you bother when you know what the whole statement says, 99% of statues have a higher IQ than you, you insult the intelligence of the posters reading this thread

Here is a fact, you've been lieing to yourself

[travestyny]

Here is a fact, you've been lieing to yourself

How many times have I told you to find the conflict.

You won’t because you can’t. You were too busy saying the match was an amateur match, you big dummy.

[koolkc107]

What??????

Russian athletes were having a field day for years.

Even after that huge scandal, what did WADA do? Russian athletes, for the most part, went to the Olympics!!!


BUT here is the interesting part about all this and WADA:
WADA heard about the Russian PEDs scandal in 2010 but did very little for years until the media got a hold of this scandal!

Even when they reported that there was an issue with these athletes (and more) in late 2015, they still wouldn't expand the investigation past track and field.

It took the media to put the pressure on WADA to start doing something about it.



In Floyd's case, USADA may have just done enough (the minimal) so that WADA does nothing. Does this mean that they did what they should? Nope!


For one, Floyd was not thouroughly vetted and there is no way that Floyd required BANNED IVs when we all see him drinking like a fish at the weigh in!!!



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You are not paying attention.

It doesn't matter what WADA did or didn't do to RUSADA in 2010- again, the testing methods and implementation where not on the same level then. ABP use was still in its infancy.

What you and other morons can't explain is how WADA absolutely eviscerated RUSADA in 2015 while did nothing in Mayweather's circumstance, which was a much bigger and high profile news event ALSO IN 2015.

The Iole Yahoo article came out in May; RUSADA was shut down in November.

There was plenty of time to investigate things, and I am sure they did...and found nothing to sanction.

Do you remember what it was like when the story broke?

As far as your assertion of Russian athletes still going to the Olympics, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I MEAN WHEN I SAY YOU BUTTHURTS ARE LYING TO MAKE THE NARRATIVE FIT YOUR LIES.

You fail to mention that some Russian athletes were indeed banned because of this. And you don't mention that those who did go went because they found WADA certified labs elsewhere to do testing with.

You just put out a half-fact so it could look like you had a take...which you don't.

When the IV story broke, it was all over the media.

Yet WADA had very little to say.

My guess is that unlike Hauser and Arum and Pac, WADA didn't wait until 4 months later to do something.

They knew back in May that Floyd was compliant...and clean.

[koolkc107]

What I find amazing is that all these butthurt posters haven't written WADA with their dazzling new revelations.

If Floyd cheated and USADA is corrupt, I think WADA needs to be informed.

To that end, I am willing to organize a petition to WADA for them to take a closer look at the circumstances surrounding the IV.

All I need is for any interested butthurt to compose an air-tight, completely coherent narrative that is compelling enough to make WADA notice.

ANY VOLUNTEERS?

And don't let it be said I don't practice what I preach.

I just contacted WADA with the following:

Dear Sirs,
I was curious as to what, if any, investigation was done by WADA concerning Floyd Mayweather's use of an IV before his fight with Manny Pacquiao back in May of 2015. Is there any releasable info on what steps WADA took and what the findings were? And, if nothing substantial was done on the part of WADA then is there a reasonable explanation as to why that is?

Thank you in advance for your reply.

I will expect those detailed arguments from every butthurt here who keeps insisting Floyd cheated.

If I can do what I did and I think he is clean, I am guessing you crybabies have much more detailed arguments...let's see them, edit what needs editing, and send them.

Time to stop screwing around on a message board and follow your own convictions in real life.

That's what real men do.