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  • Originally posted by koolkc107 View Post
    Everytime I convince myself that there is no way in hell Lou could have any more bullshyt left to crap out, dude proves me wrong.

    This speculation is so idiotic, I won't even bother trying to break it down point by point, I'll preserve it as it so I can come back to it everytime I need a laugh.

    But, since you think you can succeed where other butthurts have failed, maybe you can take a crack at a few questions they don't seem to be able to answer.

    1) The IV story was reported in May. What took Hauser and the rest of the press 4 months to write anything about it?

    2) Why didn't Pac sue Mayweather for an illegal IV, if it was cheating? Why did Pac not seek to have the fight declared a no contest and have an immediate rematch ordered if it was cheating?

    3) Why would WADA respond to the media firestorm over RUSADA with sanctions of that signatory and decertifications of Russian labs, but ignore another even bigger media shytstorm concerning one of the most hated athletes in modern history?

    These are the questions that need logical answers.

    All of them concern en****** Floyd could not possibly bribe and buy off.

    All of them concern en****** who have it in their best interest to bust and expose Floyd, yet it hasn't happened.

    I know you won't even try to answer these.

    You'll either come up with some half-assed nonsense, make a vulgar personal attack, or both.

    But as bad as you want it to be so, it won't be reality Lou.
    Reality is this :

    Thomas Hauser first reported the USADA DCO found evidence of an IV.

    Media outlets ran with it as if Floyd was caught trying to hide something. Every article all quotes the same source. Hauser.

    Then Hauser admitted it was a rumor and he was wrong and agreed USADA was aware prior to the IV.


    That's why the story died. No conspiracy like these pact@rds hoped for. Just a ****ty report from an agenda driven journalists that lacked factual information.

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    • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
      I can literally smash every single one of your statements, here, but it's been done so much that there really isn't any point to do so anymore.

      But let me just show how you have no idea what you are talking about, and you're quite ******.







      Suddenly you know what the word protocol means, huh?
      Tell me, who taught you the definition of protocol? Who would that be?


      [img]https://media.*****.com/media/l3E6uhDAN3W7vylji/*****.gif[/img]
      Another page of false promises, you keep saying you COULD do this and COULD do that but I think all you do is go to your bedroom and cry while looking at a poster of fluid IVayweather on your wall, your full of ****, there is no point in arguing 2 different topics (code and protocol) at the same time because your not intelligent enough to do so
      Last edited by Shape up; 10-29-2017, 02:50 PM.

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      • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
        Reality is this :

        Thomas Hauser first reported the USADA DCO found evidence of an IV.

        Media outlets ran with it as if Floyd was caught trying to hide something. Every article all quotes the same source. Hauser.

        Then Hauser admitted it was a rumor and he was wrong and agreed USADA was aware prior to the IV.


        That's why the story died. No conspiracy like these pact@rds hoped for. Just a ****ty report from an agenda driven journalists that lacked factual information.
        Butthurts just love to quote Hauser.

        But, none of them mention how he had to eat his words regarding things he wrote.

        And I remember him saying he was going to write another long form article- this was after USADA burned his arse on practically every allegation he'd made.

        He was going to answer USADA's lockdown of his bullshyt with more supposedly.

        It was September 17, 2015 when he promised that article-
        we haven't heard boo from him on this long form article since.

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        • Originally posted by koolkc107 View Post
          Everytime I convince myself that there is no way in hell Lou could have any more bullshyt left to crap out, dude proves me wrong.

          This speculation is so idiotic, I won't even bother trying to break it down point by point, I'll preserve it as it so I can come back to it everytime I need a laugh.

          But, since you think you can succeed where other butthurts have failed, maybe you can take a crack at a few questions they don't seem to be able to answer.

          1) The IV story was reported in May. What took Hauser and the rest of the press 4 months to write anything about it?

          2) Why didn't Pac sue Mayweather for an illegal IV, if it was cheating? Why did Pac not seek to have the fight declared a no contest and have an immediate rematch ordered if it was cheating?

          3) Why would WADA respond to the media firestorm over RUSADA with sanctions of that signatory and decertifications of Russian labs, but ignore another even bigger media shytstorm concerning one of the most hated athletes in modern history?

          These are the questions that need logical answers.

          All of them concern en****** Floyd could not possibly bribe and buy off.

          All of them concern en****** who have it in their best interest to bust and expose Floyd, yet it hasn't happened.

          I know you won't even try to answer these.

          You'll either come up with some half-assed nonsense, make a vulgar personal attack, or both.

          But as bad as you want it to be so, it won't be reality Lou.
          Originally posted by Lou Cipher View Post
          Until you can provide some hard proof, like Lou Cipher has, Floyd is a roid cheat. Thats all there is to it.
          Typical Floyd hater response.

          Give a few tough questions and all they can do it talk about stuff that has nothing to do with what you asked.

          They can't answer the questions because they have no answers.

          All they can do is make empty accusations without anything even remotely resembling truth.

          Last I heard this was America, Lou.

          From sea to shining sea.

          It's even America in those ****** laden parking lots you conveniently "jog past" every day.

          And in America, you are presumed innocent til proven guilty.

          So, until one of you butthurts comes up with something real, the only place Mayweather is guilty is in the minds of a few Bittermen.

          When it comes to PEDs, Mayweather has a clean bill of health from literally every authority he has fought under.

          He is proven as not a cheat.
          Last edited by koolkc107; 10-29-2017, 04:28 PM.

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          • Originally posted by Shape up View Post
            Another page of false promises, you keep saying you COULD do this and COULD do that but I think all you do is go to your bedroom and cry while looking at a poster of fluid IVayweather on your wall, your full of ****, there is no point in arguing 2 different topics (code and protocol) at the same time because your not intelligent enough to do so
            Then why are you afraid of the perma ban bet?

            It’s because even you know you’re a moron. Wasn’t it you that said:

            1. You dilute a sample by making it more concentrated

            2. Protocols are not code.

            3. This was an international level match.

            4. You misquoted people because you don’t know how quotation marks work.


            Weren’t you wrong about all of this? If you think you were right about any of this, do you accept the perma-ban challenge?

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            • Originally posted by Shape up View Post
              so we have proved that usada has omitted protocol
              Omitted protocol? That's funny. I see it right in the contract:

              From the Contract:

              Mayweather and Pacquiao agree that sections 5, 9-13, 16, 17(a), and 21 of the United States Anti-Doping Agency Protocol for Olympic and Paralympic Movement Testing shall constitute the procedural rules applicable to any Results Management Services provided hereunder.

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              Originally posted by Shape up View Post
              and code articles from wada rules,
              That's funny. I see the WADA codes right in Annex A of the USADA protocol. Hmmm.

              ANNEX A
              WORLD ANTI-DOPING CODE ARTICLES
              Articles from the World Anti-Doping Code that are referenced in the USOC Anti-Doping Policies and incorporated verbatim into the USADA Protocol for Olympic and Paralympic Movement Testing:

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              Originally posted by Shape up View Post
              gave fluid IVayweather a retro tue against wada rules,
              Hmmm. A WADA spokesperson said a retro TUE was not against their rules:

              WADA confirmed that under the 2015 World Anti-Doping Code and the International Standard for The****utic Use Exemptions (ISTUE), a retroactive TUE can be granted for an IV drip to combat dehydration.
              http://www.sportsintegrityinitiative...eather-iv-tue/
              Furthermore, WADA's own rules in the Code say he is able to apply for a TUE retroactively.

              4.5.5 if an anti-doping organization chooses to collect a Sample from a Person who is not an International- level or national-level athlete, and that Person is using a Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method for the****utic reasons, the anti-doping organization may permit him or her to apply for a retroactive tue.
              https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/defau...oping-code.pdf
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              Originally posted by Shape up View Post
              was given a retro tue for an infusion at his house, which is prohibited
              Wrong again. Your information came from the medical best practices guidelines.

              3. Medical best practice treatment
              Legitimate medical indications for IV infusions are well documented and are most commonly associated with either medical emergencies or in-patient care.
              When an IV infusion is administered to an athlete, the following criteria should be fulfilled:
              1. A clearly defined diagnosis.
              2. Supportive evidence that no permitted alternative treatment can be
              used.
              3. The treatment has been ordered by a physician and administered by qualified medical personnel in an appropriate medical setting.
              4. Adequate medical records of the treatment.
              https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/defau..._july_2016.pdf
              They are not mandatory according to WADA Code.
              Models of Best Practice and Guidelines
              Models of best practice and guidelines based on the Code and International Standards have been and will be developed to provide solutions in different areas of anti-doping. The models and guidelines will be recommended by Wada and made available to Signatories and other relevant stakeholders, but will not be mandatory.
              https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/defau...oping-code.pdf
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              Originally posted by Shape up View Post
              at all times without a prior tue
              Again, according to the WADA spokesperson and the WADA code itself, a retroactive TUE was appropriate.

              WADA confirmed that under the 2015 World Anti-Doping Code and the International Standard for The****utic Use Exemptions (ISTUE), a retroactive TUE can be granted for an IV drip to combat dehydration.
              http://www.sportsintegrityinitiative...eather-iv-tue/
              4.5.5 if an anti-doping organization chooses to collect a Sample from a Person who is not an International- level or national-level athlete, and that Person is using a Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method for the****utic reasons, the anti-doping organization may permit him or her to apply for a retroactive tue.
              https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/defau...oping-code.pdf
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              Originally posted by Shape up View Post
              and was able to pick the start and finish dates of testing,
              Which other boxer or promoter besides maybe Nonito Donaire doesn't pick when testing begins and ends you big dummy? And no explanation of why this even matters. You believe he was taking PED's while being tested, so this is beyond moronic. Why worry about the dates if you think he cheats when he is being tested, moron?

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              Originally posted by Shape up View Post
              paid an exorbitant amount of money to usada compared to other fights they have tested for,
              False. The amount paid is always around 100,000 for all USADA testing. You're still mimicking Hauser, whom I've already shown is as much of an idiot as you are.

              -----Hauser-------
              USADA charged $36,000 to administer drug testing for the April 11, 2015, middleweight encounter between Andy Lee and Peter Quillin.

              ------USADA------
              This is misleading. The cost for the testing program for this fight was not $36,000. As is the case with all of USADA’s professional boxing testing programs, between 25 and 33 percent of the testing fee is earmarked for a legal retainer for any necessary adjudication costs that may arise. The legal retainer is refunded upon the completion of the program, if not required.
              https://www.usada.org/wp-content/upl...Tom-Hauser.pdf
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              Originally posted by Shape up View Post
              i have shown how the ABP can be beaten, its time for the truth fluid IVayweather is a ped cheat
              Oh, you did? So ABP can be beat by testing yourself 14 times using only blood and no target testing???

              Yea ok. Go to sleep, bltch.

              R.I.P.

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              • WADA confirmed that under the 2015 World Anti-Doping Code and the International Standard for The****utic Use Exemptions (ISTUE), a retroactive TUE CAN be granted for an IV drip to combat dehydration. “For a case that WOULD be monitored by WADA, yes the ISTUE could allow for intravenous infusions to be used in instances of dehydration”, a WADA spokesperson told the Sports Integrity Initiative. HOWEVER, the spokesperson added: “This case is NOT ONE that is monitored by WADA because the World Boxing Council is not a signatory to the Code. We understand that USADA was contracted to conduct the anti-doping program for this fight-----------as per usual you try to mislead the thread by only posting parts of the statement, you must be learning off fluid IVayweather, the master manipulator, so far from Olympic style testing, half the code and protocol omitted, it was a stunt

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                • Originally posted by Shape up View Post
                  WADA confirmed that under the 2015 World Anti-Doping Code and the International Standard for The****utic Use Exemptions (ISTUE), a retroactive TUE CAN be granted for an IV drip to combat dehydration. “For a case that WOULD be monitored by WADA, yes the ISTUE could allow for intravenous infusions to be used in instances of dehydration”, a WADA spokesperson told the Sports Integrity Initiative. HOWEVER, the spokesperson added: “This case is NOT ONE that is monitored by WADA because the World Boxing Council is not a signatory to the Code. We understand that USADA was contracted to conduct the anti-doping program for this fight-----------as per usual you try to mislead the thread by only posting parts of the statement, you must be learning off fluid IVayweather, the master manipulator, so far from Olympic style testing, half the code and protocol omitted, it was a stunt

                  You have shlt for brains. The quotation says it is allowed according to their rules. It says it, you big dummy.

                  By the way, what does this say:

                  4.5.5 if an anti-doping organization chooses to collect a Sample from a Person who is not an International- level or national-level athlete, and that Person is using a Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method for the****utic reasons, the anti-doping organization may permit him or her to apply for a retroactive tue.
                  https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/defau...oping-code.pdf

                  So is he an international level athlete?

                  Is he a national level athlete?

                  Let me know, bro.

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                  • He's international level, you should read what you post junkie, that statement is backing my side, not yours, it's saying it's ok if the athlete is below national level, notice the word "OR" between international and national ******
                    Last edited by Shape up; 10-29-2017, 06:45 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by Shape up View Post
                      He's international level, you should read what you post junkie, that statement is backing my side, not yours, it's saying it's ok if the athlete is below national level, notice the word "OR" between international and national ******
                      How the **** is he an international level athlete, you complete imbecile.

                      What international federation does he answer to?

                      He's neither international nor national, you moron

                      It never says BETWEEN you illiterate f@g. Where does it say between? LMAOOOOOOOO!

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