Here's Where All The Floyd Cheat Theories Fail

[koolkc107]

I have read them, it was lies and dribble, you've been proved wrong, usada didn't follow WADA rules gimp

Then let's take your proof and get USADA decertified.

You are sure, right?

Write it down and we will send it to WADA and see what they have to say.

[Shape up]

When these dudes tuck their tails and bow down, let’s hope they have the decency to shut up about this.

You 2 crackheads are funny, the reason this didn't involve wada is simple, it was a paid job, USADA was hired to do a limited drug testing job, by fluid IVayweather, none of the participants were signatories, why would wada get involved, they weren't paid anything, contracts stipulated a limited code compliance, which could be over ruled anyway, usada might have used wada approved labs, but wada doesn't own or run those labs, this would be viewed as a private job for those labs, reporting back to usada the results, it was all 1 big sham by fluid, but eh, knock yourselves out, contact wada, you won't get a reply

[travestyny]

You 2 crackheads are funny, the reason this didn't involve wada is simple, it was a paid job, USADA was hired to do a limited drug testing job, by fluid IVayweather, none of the participants were signatories, why would wada get involved, they weren't paid anything, contracts stipulated a limited code compliance, which could be over ruled anyway, usada might have used wada approved labs, but wada doesn't own or run those labs, this would be viewed as a private job for those labs, reporting back to usada the results, it was all 1 big sham by fluid, but eh, knock yourselves out, contact wada, you won't get a reply

LMAOOO. You giving up then? It's about time you learned your place

Per the Contract:

USADA will direct the Laboratory to direct all testing results promptly to USADA and WADA.

No response about that perma-ban bet, huh? I think you know you're out of your element now, huh? Go **** on blocks at your local pre-school. School's in, sucka.

[ADP02]

You are not paying attention.

It doesn't matter what WADA did or didn't do to RUSADA in 2010- again, the testing methods and implementation where not on the same level then. ABP use was still in its infancy.

What you and other morons can't explain is how WADA absolutely eviscerated RUSADA in 2015 while did nothing in Mayweather's circumstance, which was a much bigger and high profile news event ALSO IN 2015.

The Iole Yahoo article came out in May; RUSADA was shut down in November.

There was plenty of time to investigate things, and I am sure they did...and found nothing to sanction.

Do you remember what it was like when the story broke?

As far as your assertion of Russian athletes still going to the Olympics, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I MEAN WHEN I SAY YOU BUTTHURTS ARE LYING TO MAKE THE NARRATIVE FIT YOUR LIES.

You fail to mention that some Russian athletes were indeed banned because of this. And you don't mention that those who did go went because they found WADA certified labs elsewhere to do testing with.

You just put out a half-fact so it could look like you had a take...which you don't.

When the IV story broke, it was all over the media.

Yet WADA had very little to say.

My guess is that unlike Hauser and Arum and Pac, WADA didn't wait until 4 months later to do something.

They knew back in May that Floyd was compliant...and clean.

No, you are not paying attention.

a) You tried to push the blame of receiving the IV away from Floyd and unto the DCO and USADA.

I pointed out that you were WRONG! It's Floyd and his doctor that need to verify prior to using the BANNED substance/method to be used in their case, check if there are no alternatives and that they would feel that they can get a RETRO TUE NOT USADA.




b) You said to look at the Russian athletes as an example. Well, now that I am, you are saying "It doesn't matter"??? WHAT????

Well, there was not 1 but many athletes cheating in this case and NO, the Floyd IV scandal was NOT bigger than the Russian scandal ... not even close! Floyd's scandal was big in boxing but was in and out of the news after a day or so. Russian scandal was big news up to the Olympics of last year. WADA KNEW about this scandal since 2010 and did very little about it in 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 and even 2015 the scope should have been wider. Not until there was heavy pressure from the media did they do something about it and their investigation was narrow when it should have been much wider in scope!

Again, not until more pressure by the media that it was even a wider scandal (not just track and field). WADA eventually did more but many people still criticized WADA on how they had handled it for all those years!!!


1) With Floyd, you have 1 guy and where the organization is not even a signatory of WADA and WADA said that they were not monitoring Floyd Mayweather's case! LOL


2) We heard about the Russian scandal and what WADA did, right? What did we hear about WADA doing with Floyd's case? CRICKETs!!! They didn't say that they monitored ...... Like I said, WADA stated that they were not monitoring Mayweather's case!

"However, the WADA spokesperson added: “This case is not one that is monitored by WADA because the World Boxing Council is not a signatory to the Code."


3) In either case, WADA review is optional. WADA does NOT review all cases, especially ones that they are not requested to do so and cases where the NADO approved the TUE.


4) Let's be real. What would WADA see and know? Whatever Floyd's doctor and USADA presents them as information. You think that information would show exactly what happened or only what they wanted to show? As stated already, the key is Floyd and his doctor's note. Floyd's paid doctor can lie thru his teeth and present a plausible case. USADA did not thoroughly vet and do proper investigation and so they just relied on Floyd's doctor's note!!!!

Novitsky said RETRO TUEs are thoroughly vetted and can take weekS if not months. Floyd got one BS RETRO TUE rubber stamped IN NO TIME! No thorough vetting!



5) USADA knows that all they need to do is follow the protocol but do the bare minumum and WADA would do nothing!



6) Now add what the WADA TUE Expert said about Floyd's IV scandal:
"Smells bad, red flag, USADA was not being independant, murky waters, Floyd's situation was not a good reason for TUE, ...."



7) Only 1 organization received $150, 000 for testing that 1 fight and that was USADA.

WADA gets paid when there is a request to review a TUE application but there was no request. On a case that they were not even monitoring!!! Yet you guys are trying to push this off from USADA onto WADA. How convenient.


8) You conveniently deflected from WADA being criticized for doing relatively nothing for years to oh you didn't mention that some Russian athletes were banned from going to the Olympics.

Well, wrong again. I actually did say that not all made it to the Olympics but many did BUT that is not even the point!!!!



I'm was not here to criticize WADA but your example was wrong and it shows that things can happen even on a wide scale right under WADA's nose yet you guys say that it cannot happen with Lance Armstrong. Ooops, I meant Floyd Mayweather?

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[ADP02]

What I find amazing is that all these butthurt posters haven't written WADA with their dazzling new revelations.

If Floyd cheated and USADA is corrupt, I think WADA needs to be informed.

To that end, I am willing to organize a petition to WADA for them to take a closer look at the circumstances surrounding the IV.

All I need is for any interested butthurt to compose an air-tight, completely coherent narrative that is compelling enough to make WADA notice.

ANY VOLUNTEERS?

And don't let it be said I don't practice what I preach.

I just contacted WADA with the following:

Dear Sirs,
I was curious as to what, if any, investigation was done by WADA concerning Floyd Mayweather's use of an IV before his fight with Manny Pacquiao back in May of 2015. Is there any releasable info on what steps WADA took and what the findings were? And, if nothing substantial was done on the part of WADA then is there a reasonable explanation as to why that is?

Thank you in advance for your reply.

I will expect those detailed arguments from every butthurt here who keeps insisting Floyd cheated.

If I can do what I did and I think he is clean, I am guessing you crybabies have much more detailed arguments...let's see them, edit what needs editing, and send them.

Time to stop screwing around on a message board and follow your own convictions in real life.

That's what real men do.

Like I said, you are the one that is not paying attention.

In your example of Russian athletes, WADA was informed in 2010 about this scandal. They shuffled their feet for years.

If Russia would have changed things and not make it so obvious, WADA would have taken too long and found nothing!



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[travestyny]

Like I said, you are the one that is not paying attention.

In your example of Russian athletes, WADA was informed in 2010 about this scandal. They shuffled their feet for years.

If Russia would have changed things and not make it so obvious, WADA would have taken too long and found nothing!



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Please answer post #826. I'm dying to hear these answers that you always DEFLECT AND DUCK FROM.

It's only 3 questions, so don't run away!

You going to step up or be a deflector?

--edit--

Actually, added a question 4.

[Shape up]

LMAOOO. You giving up then? It's about time you learned your place

Per the Contract:



No response about that perma-ban bet, huh? I think you know you're out of your element now, huh? Go **** on blocks at your local pre-school. School's in, sucka.

Do you hear voices in your head, where did you get "give up" out of that Buffy. I see you haven't addressed 23.2.2 yet, if you can't then you've given up Jim Carey. You haven't answer 1 question in any solid way, everything you've posted I've been able to answer with proof, either wada rules or points in the contract, your that far behind that you'll never catch up gimp

[travestyny]

Do you hear voices in your head, where did you get "give up" out of that Buffy. I see you haven't addressed 23.2.2 yet, if you can't then you've given up Jim Carey

Yes I did you moron. LMAOOOOOO.


I see you haven't visited USADA's website and posted section 5 of the USADA Protocol, huh?


Why won't you do it?

Oh, and do you still believe its an international level fight? Haven't heard you say that in awhile

Embarrassed yet?

[koolkc107]

Retroactive TUEs by definition do not have to be verified prior. After all these posts, you still don't know that? You have clear and undeniable reading comprehension problems.

Now, as to the Russians and WADA sanctions on RUSADA.

I need you to pay attention here because I do this thing that seems to be pretty rare among those posting in this thread...it's called logical thinking.

I have asked why, if Floyd cheated, has WADA not done anything to USADA. I cited the complete reaming WADA did and continues to do to RUSADA as proof of what happens when a signatory doesn't comply with the WADA Code.

As a rebuttal, you chose to put forth that it took 5 years from the time WADA first knew of the Russian corruption to WADA finally taking action.

The problem with this is obvious to anyone with a whit of common sense (there's that logic again).

If WADA was compelled to finally take action IN RUSSIA DUE TO MEDIA HEAT IN THE US, WHY IN GOD'S NAME WOULD THEY DO ZERO IN THE US WITH ANOTHER SCANDAL GENERATING MEDIA HEAT...IN THE SAME DAMNED YEAR????????

Let me get this straight so I understand your ******ed ass clearly.

WADA, bending to US media heat after 5 years, is finally going to do something about nameless Russian athletes...BUT, GIVEN INSANE REPORTING ON ONE OF THE MOST HIGH PROFILE AND HATED FIGURES IN THE HISTORY OF SPORTS CHOOSES TO DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING THE SAME DAMNED YEAR?

ARE YOU FUQUING CRAZY?

WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU?

DO YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE THE CRAP YOU ARE SPEWING?

IF IT IS 1 GUY, WOULDN'T IT BE THAT MUCH EASIER?

YOU ARE SAYING THEY WILL GO UP A WHOLE COUNTRY'S ASS WITH A MICROSCOPE, BUT LEAVE ONE GUY ALONE?

WHEN THEY SUPPOSEDLY HAD ALL THE EVIDENCE THEY NEED TO BURY HIM RIGHT AWAY?

IS THIS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?

Alright, enough yelling.

My offer still stands.

If you really think Floyd is guilty, let's petition WADA and the press to reopen the case.

Put together an essay explaining in detail why he is a cheat and we will send it in a press release to all sports media outlets.

Ball in your court, son.

No, you are not paying attention.

a) You tried to push the blame of receiving the IV away from Floyd and unto the DCO and USADA.

I pointed out that you were WRONG! It's Floyd and his doctor that need to verify prior to using the BANNED substance/method to be used in their case, check if there are no alternatives and that they would feel that they can get a RETRO TUE NOT USADA.




b) You said to look at the Russian athletes as an example. Well, now that I am, you are saying "It doesn't matter"??? WHAT????

Well, there was not 1 but many athletes cheating in this case and NO, the Floyd IV scandal was NOT bigger than the Russian scandal ... not even close! Floyd's scandal was big in boxing but was in and out of the news after a day or so. Russian scandal was big news up to the Olympics of last year. WADA KNEW about this scandal since 2010 and did very little about it in 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 and even 2015 the scope should have been wider. Not until there was heavy pressure from the media did they do something about it and their investigation was narrow when it should have been much wider in scope!

Again, not until more pressure by the media that it was even a wider scandal (not just track and field). WADA eventually did more but many people still criticized WADA on how they had handled it for all those years!!!


1) With Floyd, you have 1 guy and where the organization is not even a signatory of WADA and WADA said that they were not monitoring Floyd Mayweather's case! LOL


2) We heard about the Russian scandal and what WADA did, right? What did we hear about WADA doing with Floyd's case? CRICKETs!!! They didn't say that they monitored ...... Like I said, WADA stated that they were not monitoring Mayweather's case!

"However, the WADA spokesperson added: “This case is not one that is monitored by WADA because the World Boxing Council is not a signatory to the Code."


3) In either case, WADA review is optional. WADA does NOT review all cases, especially ones that they are not requested to do so and cases where the NADO approved the TUE.


4) Let's be real. What would WADA see and know? Whatever Floyd's doctor and USADA presents them as information. You think that information would show exactly what happened or only what they wanted to show? As stated already, the key is Floyd and his doctor's note. Floyd's paid doctor can lie thru his teeth and present a plausible case. USADA did not thoroughly vet and do proper investigation and so they just relied on Floyd's doctor's note!!!!

Novitsky said RETRO TUEs are thoroughly vetted and can take weekS if not months. Floyd got one BS RETRO TUE rubber stamped IN NO TIME! No thorough vetting!



5) USADA knows that all they need to do is follow the protocol but do the bare minumum and WADA would do nothing!



6) Now add what the WADA TUE Expert said about Floyd's IV scandal:
"Smells bad, red flag, USADA was not being independant, murky waters, Floyd's situation was not a good reason for TUE, ...."



7) Only 1 organization received $150, 000 for testing that 1 fight and that was USADA.

WADA gets paid when there is a request to review a TUE application but there was no request. On a case that they were not even monitoring!!! Yet you guys are trying to push this off from USADA onto WADA. How convenient.


8) You conveniently deflected from WADA being criticized for doing relatively nothing for years to oh you didn't mention that some Russian athletes were banned from going to the Olympics.

Well, wrong again. I actually did say that not all made it to the Olympics but many did BUT that is not even the point!!!!



I'm was not here to criticize WADA but your example was wrong and it shows that things can happen even on a wide scale right under WADA's nose yet you guys say that it cannot happen with Lance Armstrong. Ooops, I meant Floyd Mayweather?

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[koolkc107]

You 2 crackheads are funny, the reason this didn't involve wada is simple, it was a paid job, USADA was hired to do a limited drug testing job, by fluid IVayweather, none of the participants were signatories, why would wada get involved, they weren't paid anything, contracts stipulated a limited code compliance, which could be over ruled anyway, usada might have used wada approved labs, but wada doesn't own or run those labs, this would be viewed as a private job for those labs, reporting back to usada the results, it was all 1 big sham by fluid, but eh, knock yourselves out, contact wada, you won't get a reply

Ship-out, do you realize we are nearing 850 posts and you still don't know what a WADA signatory is?

And you still don't know that as a WADA signatory, anything that involves USADA by definition also involves WADA?

And how many times do you have to be told that everything gets reported to both WADA and USADA?

BTW, where is your essay proving Floyd cheated?

I think you are crazier than a bedbug but if you think USADA did something wrong then, on the million to one chance you are actually right, they should not get away with it.

So let's petition WADA and the press to investigate.