Here's Where All The Floyd Cheat Theories Fail

[Shape up]

Again no answer, you can write fail as much as you like but it doesn't answer questions, you can't bluff your way out knobjockey

[Shape up]

All of your questions have been answered before numerous times in this thread.

FAIL

I just need you to answer one truthfully and you seem to have a problem doing so.

DID YOU OR DID YOU NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY IN MAY 2015 WHEN KEVIN IOLE REPORTED THE IVs AND THE RETROACTIVE TUE?

Again ******, look at the join date, I know you clowns have multiple accounts and that's normal for you morons but I have only one account you imbecile

[john l]

JEEZ this silly thread is still going.May was 1st fighter to start demanding testing that says a lot.And Floyd never tried to hide that whole IV thing.Plus anybody thats watched boxing before PED era can tell pretty much with just eye test.Floyd got slower and less powerfull the more he moved up in weight.Unlike somone else who even after going up 5-6-7 weight div kept getting more powerfull and more explosive.

[koolkc107]

Again ******, look at the join date, I know you clowns have multiple accounts and that's normal for you morons but I have only one account you imbecile

FAIL

Oh come now, Ship out.

Dude, I can't believe you're this ******.

You basically tell on yourself every time.

I bet you are lousy at poker, aren't you?

I know what your answer is already, Ship out.

I know exactly what it is you don't want to admit, knew it the first time you didn't answer the question.

All I am doing really is giving you a chance to recover a bit of the credibility you have obviously lost.

Just tell the truth.

I know it is embarrassing to be exposed as a mouth-breathing parrot, but if you face it now you'll be better for it down the road. You can't change until you admit something is wrong first.

Think for yourself for once and answer the question.

See, when you joined this forum has nothing to do with answering the question, not really.

I assume you followed boxing before you joined this board, and more than likely posted in other places.

Proof from those places would count, you know.

And that's how I know what your answer is.

Because as obsessed as you are to be right here, if you had an answer to my question that you were proud of, you'd have posted it by now.

Which means the truth is an embarrassment to you.

As it should be.

But you can change it. Answer the question.

DID YOU OR DID YOU NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY IN MAY 2015 WHEN KEVIN IOLE REPORTED THE IVs AND THE RETROACTIVE TUE?

[Shape up]

Oh come now, Ship out.

Dude, I can't believe you're this ******.

You basically tell on yourself every time.

I bet you are lousy at poker, aren't you?

I know what your answer is already, Ship out.

I know exactly what it is you don't want to admit, knew it the first time you didn't answer the question.

All I am doing really is giving you a chance to recover a bit of the credibility you have obviously lost.

Just tell the truth.

I know it is embarrassing to be exposed as a mouth-breathing parrot, but if you face it now you'll be better for it down the road. You can't change until you admit something is wrong first.

Think for yourself for once and answer the question.

See, when you joined this forum has nothing to do with answering the question, not really.

I assume you followed boxing before you joined this board, and more than likely posted in other places.

Proof from those places would count, you know.

And that's how I know what your answer is.

Because as obsessed as you are to be right here, if you had an answer to my question that you were proud of, you'd have posted it by now.

Which means the truth is an embarrassment to you.

As it should be.

But you can change it. Answer the question.

DID YOU OR DID YOU NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY IN MAY 2015 WHEN KEVIN IOLE REPORTED THE IVs AND THE RETROACTIVE TUE?[/QUOTE]

all that **** you've written once again and have not answered 1 question, you should be a politician, and as I've said look at my join date, was I here, if the date shown was after may 2015 then it would be impossible, wouldn't it, you can't work anything out, did you educate yourself on emergency TUEs, your talking about providing proof, you obviously have no idea what proof is with the garbage you and your alt try to pass off as proof gumby

[ADP02]

This really made me laugh. You're a joke. This fight really ruined your life. Now even when USADA goes after someone, there is no credit given. LMAO.

That is not what I'm saying. You made it sound like it's a big deal or something that they are able to catch these people .... my point is that it had more to do with the witnesses than anything that USADA found out on their own (initially)

travestyny
I don't even have to prove you wrong about this. YOU prove yourself wrong about this. See more below.

YOUR "PROOF" IS ONE PERSON WHO WAS PROVEN WRONG! MY PROOF IS DOCUMENTED FACT, BEING THAT THE TUE'S WERE RELEASED VIA A HACK, AND MORE!

Goucher knows more than you. Right? That is where I got my info. Show me all of the TUEs from that group of athletes. Just one athlete had 3 in the same year in 2009 alone.

Proven wrong?
a) Remember that for at least one time, the doctor had refused to give the IV to the athlete. Salazar explained to Goucher that the athlete can fake a medical condition and tell a lie!!! So that explains your proven wrong!
Salazar explained and admitted to Goucher that there are ways to get a TUE not that he got one in that case!!! Ooops!

Look at all the TUEs from just that one athlete! Only reason the number went down is because some are now legal to use ... BUT if you realized, in combination, those drugs can be performance enhancing!!! and Salazar is not telling us the whole truth. If you read his statements, conversations, emails, the meds were for enhancement performance purposes!!!

b) The initial hack proved that the athlete had 3 TUEs in one year. Not that the 3 TUEs were all that the athletes requested for his entire career!!! Oooops!

c) I believe Goucher over Salazar that that conversation happened. TUE system can be abused as per that conversation!

d) Goucher was proven wrong? ONE PERSON only? Another Ooops!

" Since that initial report, another former member of the Oregon Project told ProPublica that Salazar had described openly the symptoms that Rupp knew to fake in order to obtain a pre-race IV"

travestyny
The other TUE's were revealed. What the **** else do you need to see?



So the TUE's that Salazar wanted to hide are out in the open due to the hack, and no one thinks anything of it. AND THEY WERE SOMETHING FIERCE...APPARENTLY SO FIERCE THAT A TUE WOULDN'T BE NEEDED FOR IT TODAY! Can you explain that?

but

"are not banned assuming normal dosage "

They can be abused and potential to enhance.

Also, we do not have a list of all of his TUEs

Also, may I remind you, Rupp is NOT the only athletes under Salazar.

"Salbutamol is a stimulant and used to dilate the bronchi in the airwaves. That's its main use. If used in high doses it does have an anabolic effect. If there's a presence over a certain level in the urine then it's considered that it's being used for anabolic effect and not for broncho-dilatory effects. There is a cut-off point."

"I don’t think everybody has a thyroid problem. I don’t think everybody is asthmatic. One person may be, and he may need prednisone and this and that. That may all be legit,
but like I was telling you earlier, I can get you to fail that test in a heartbeat. And that’s just a small part of the equation."

"Prednisone, a medication used for asthma, requires an athlete to get a the****utic exemption for use because it can block pain and potentially enhance oxygen consumption, according to Epstein’s article."

"Although prednisone and its cousin, prednisolone, are allowed in baseball, they and other glucocorticosteroids are banned by the World Anti-Doping Agency.

"When administered systemically (into the blood), glucocorticosteroids can produce a feeling of euphoria, potentially giving athletes an unfair advantage," the WADA Web site says.

They are prohibited from competition, including the Olympics and pro sports like tennis and soccer that adhere to the WADA strictures, when administered orally, rectally or injected into the blood****** or a muscle. An athlete can apply glucocorticosteroids topically for skin rashes and may be allowed to take them for other specific ailments through what's known as a the****utic-use exemption."

With

Prednisone

he would not always require a TUE. The athletes would use the drugs then Salazar would have them tested prior to the event. When the athlete doesn't pass the test then they would request for a TUE.

travestyny
She for sure accused him of trying to get a TUE for an IV in 2011. Well, here she is being proven wrong:

So the TUE's that Salazar wanted to hide are out in the open due to the hack, and no one thinks anything of it. AND THEY WERE SOMETHING FIERCE...APPARENTLY SO FIERCE THAT A TUE WOULDN'T BE NEEDED FOR IT TODAY! Can you explain that?





She for sure accused him of trying to get a TUE for an IV in 2011. Well, here she is being proven wrong:



SO HE CALLED AND WAS FUMING AND COMPLAINING ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO GET AN IV, YET THE DUDE HE WAS SUPPOSEDLY YELLING AT ONLY RECEIVED AN EMAIL IN WHICH HE SAID HE WOULD CONTACT THE TEAM DOCTOR AFTER HE DROPS OFF KARA. SO HOW DID KARA HEAR THAT CONVO? ALSO, THE DOCTOR REVEALS NO RECOLLECTION OF A REQUEST FOR AN IV. WELL WELL WELL. HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT YOUR STAR WITNESS NOW?

Here is what she said:



Really???? Let's see what really happened:

A FUMING PHONECALL???? PROOF IT WAS AN EMAIL UNRELATED TO ANY IV.



DO YOU SEE THAT? SHE WAS IN THE CAR WITH HIM AND HE SAID AFTER HE DROPS HER OFF, HE WILL CONTACT THE US DOCTOR ABOUT THE REQUEST. IT WAS A ****ING EMAIL. SO HE DROPS HER OFF. HOW DID SHE HEAR IT. BUT OH, HE ASKED FOR AN IV. NOPE!

[CENTER]PROOF FROM THE USATF DOCTOR THAT AN IV WAS NEVER REQUESTED!!!






ONE OF US IS COMING WITH FACTS. THE OTHER IS GOING BY HEARSAY THAT HAS BEEN PROVEN FALSE.



DEFLECTION. I DON'T KNOW NOR DO I CARE IF HE WAS PASSING OUT DRUGS. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE****UTIC USE EXEMPTIONS. I THINK YOU SEEM TO HAVE FORGOTTEN THAT.

1) Goucher was proven wrong? ONE PERSON only? Another Ooops!

" Since that initial report, another former member of the Oregon Project told ProPublica that Salazar had described openly the symptoms that Rupp knew to fake in order to obtain a pre-race IV"

2) Ask USADA if Salazar's statements are credible.

3) Ask USADA if Salazar's statements tries to word his statements in a certain way to make it appear that everything is on the up and up even though that is not the case!

4) Ask USADA what he thinks of Salazar's emails to show proof! Ooops!

5) "I do not remember"
a) Some athletes told USADA "I do not remember" but USADA said they used the meds over 50ml.
b) I do not remember doesn't mean "NO, that didn't happen"

6) There was also another time in 2007. So you are saying that Salazar, the one USADA is calling out, is right and Goucher and the other witnesses are wrong and a liar? Ooops!

7) Galen and his teamates have received TUEs don't you remember? Ooops!

8) I'm sure that there is more prior to 2009

ARE YOU ******ED OR JUST NOT ABLE TO COMPREHEND ANYTHING. THAT IS THE WHOLE ****ING POINT. I TOLD YOU THAT HE WAS GIVING SMALL INJECTIONS AND TRYING TO CLAIM THAT THEY WERE NOT CONSIDERED AN INFUSION OVER 50ML, BUT USADA BELIEVES THAT IS BULLSHlT AND IT DOES CONSTITUTE AN INFUSION OF OVER 50ML.

Not only that, YOU ARE PROVING MY POINT YOU IDIOT. WHY IS USADA FINDING PROOF OF IT BEING OVER 50ML? WOULDN'T THEY HAVE TO KNOW ABOUT THAT SINCE A TUE IS NECESSARY, ONE THAT YOU CLAIMED HE HAD GOT UNDER FALSE PRETENSES.

WOULDN'T WHAT YOU'RE SAYING MEAN THAT.....GULP....HE DID NOT APPLY FOR TUE'S FOR THIS ACTIVITY?????!!!!!

WHY THE **** WOULD HE HAVE APPLIED FOR TUE'S IF, AS EVEN YOU NOW IMPLICITELY ADMIT, HE WAS GIVING INFUSIONS WITHOUT GETTING TUES'S, AND USADA IS INVESTIGATING HIM FOR NOT APPLYING FOR TUE'S??????



YOU ****ING DOPE!

HERE is what you said before LOL

Travestyny
"I'm assuming that you didn't look into this at all. By "abusing the the****utic use exemptions system," apparently what was meant was trying to work around it so that a TUE would NOT have to be applied for.

The guy gave infusions, via small injections under 50ml.

He had several emails with someone at USADA who specializes in TUE's to understand the rules and in particular when a TUE would NOT have to be applied for. Oh, and there is a document detailing all of this, once again, BY USADA. Isn't it ironic that each time you deflect to another athlete, it's USADA who is on their ass?

Here is one of his emails to his athletes, in which he tells them they will NOT need a TUE. HE OBVIOUSLY WAS TRYING TO AVOID THE TUE PROCESS!



Quote:

HI Dathan, Alvina ,and Galen, For your interest. When asked about an Infusion, you are to say no. LCarnitine and Iron in the way we have it done is classified as an injection. So no TUE’s and no declaration needed, not online and not when asked about infusions when getting drug tested in or out of competition.. Thanks.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B12...puUklyRzQ/view
"

LIAR! Go read your previous email. I posted it above.

You said that Salazar had it under 50ml so no TUE was necessary now you realized that was not the case. So now you are changing it up! Ooops!

OH WORD? CHECK THIS OUT:

Here's some more for you:



SO KARA GAUCHER INTRODUCED RUPP TO AN ENDOCRINOLOGIST YET ADPO2 IS PRETENDING THAT HE HAD NO LEGIT MEDICAL ISSUES OR WHAT? APPARENTLY ONE OF HER DOCTORS WAS ALSO CHEATING TO GET A TUE FOR ATHLETES, RIGHT? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING????

1) Moron is YOU in believing Salazar instead of the witnesses!

2) This was about abusing a TUE (it can be done) not just about IV .... moron! Ooops!

3) Even John Cook, who worked there too said it's not hard to get a TUE! Moron? Ooops!

He actually agrees with me on a few points. Calls you ignorant on this topic (TUE abuse). Same with being able to pass a test. Same with being ignorant in saying just because the athlete (Floyd) passed a test, that he didn't cheat! I even provided several quotes from USADA agreeing with me. Moron? Ooops!

"RW: If I understood you correctly before, one of your points was that even if the testing is occurring, it can be worked around if you know what you’re doing.

JC: Sure, there are certain meets you just don’t go to if you know the testing is going to happen.

Also, the chemists are getting so good that some of the efficacy [of performance-enhancing drugs taken in small doses] can leave [the blood******] in less than 90 minutes. So how do you deal with that? Test [athletes] in the warm-up area? That’s not going to happen.

RW: In 2013, [Nike Oregon Project member] Galen Rupp was one of if not the most tested person on the publicly available United States Anti-Doping Agency list. How should the average running fan think about that?

JC: I go to the gym pretty regularly, and it’s mostly guys like me, who work out, play tennis, etc. That’s exactly what their point is—[athletes have] been tested, so consequently everything is fine. As you know, Marion Jones never tested positive. [Editor’s note: Sprinter Jones won three gold medals at the 2000 Olympics but was later stripped of her medals and served time in federal prison after admitting steriod use.] No one is going to test positive. It’s just not going to happen.

RW: So from your knowledge, that could or could not have any relationship to whether anything technically illegal is going on?

JC: If you take the testing objectively, and you never fail a drug test, as far as the average person is concerned, if you’re negative, you’re negative, and that means you’re a good guy. But that’s not what’s happening


RW: So how can the average fan of the sport stay a fan if the lack of a failed test doesn’t necessarily mean that much?

JC: The average fan remains ignorant in terms of it wanting to be that way and wanting it be “Chariots of Fire.” Some of the people I talk to when I’m on the treadmill or lifting weights don’t even know the athletes make money. And they think if [athletes] test negative, they’re as clean as white snow.

JC: It concerned me a great deal.

For instance, getting a The****utic Use Exemption for an inhaler can be very easily done. If I take you and run your ass up and down the stairs five or six or seven times, then take you into the doctor, you’re going to be asthmatic and fail the test, and you’re going to be allowed to take an inhaler.

Don’t get me wrong—some of these drugs make life better for certain groups. But if you’re a healthy person, why the hell would you need an inhaler? I was somewhat concerned about that.

Getting back to your original question, no one is going to test positive. But there has to be some ethics, there has to be some honor, there has to be some accountability

4) Go check out other websites, this topic comes up! Is everyone a moron? Ooops!

ALL OF THESE SPECIALISTS ARE IN ON IT TOO, RIGHT? ADD THAT TO KARA GOUCHER'S ENDOCRINOLOGIST. RIGHT????*







WHAT THE **** DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THE FACTS???


1. His TUE's were revealed by a Russian Hack and by Salazar himself, and there was never a TUE for an IV!

2. KARA GOUCHER'S CLAIM WAS DENIED BY THE US TRACK AND FIELD MEDICAL DOCTOR!!!!

3. Galen Rupp's asthma, allergy, and other medical issues are well documented by a plethora of specialists, by Rupp himself, by over 500 pages of documents going back to 2001, approved of by USADA who was on his ass, and also approved of by Kara Goucher's endocrinologist.

4. Salazar went on record saying there was never a TUE for an IV, and USADA has since commented on this statement without claiming it is untrue!

5. EVEN YOU HAVE POINTED OUT WHERE SALAZAR WAS BEING INVESTIGATED FOR GOING OVER 50ML, WHICH MEANS HE DID NOT HAVE A TUE. HOW COULD HE HAVE MANIPULATED IT IF HE DIDN'T HAVE ONE?

6. I ALREADY GAVE YOU MESSAGES FROM HIM TELLING ATHLETES TO NOT DISCLOSE ANY INFUSION AND SAYING A TUE "WHEN GIVEN HOW WE DO IT" IS UNNECESSARY. I NOTICED YOU DUCKED THAT!

ADMIT THAT YOU ARE WRONG!!!

AND GIVE ME THE DAMN LINK THAT I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR. I'VE BEEN WAITING BUT YOU KEEP DUCKING MY REQUEST!!![/B]

LET’S TRY THIS AGAIN. WERE YOU WRONG THAT SALAZAR GOT RUPP FAKE TUE’s? YES OR NO? I have proof you were wrong. YOU HAVE DEFLECTIONS! THANK YOU FOR PROVING MY POINT. WHEN YOU ARE PROVEN WRONG YOU CANT ADMIT IT. WE CAN GET ANY SANE PERSON TO LOOK AT THIS INFO AND THEY KNOW YOU ARE WRONG!

JUST LIKE YOU SAYING GIVING 90ml EXACTLY WOULD FORCE THE DCO TO STOP THE COLLECTION SESSION. HOW THE **** DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO YOU THAT DOING THE MINIMUM THAT IS REQUIRED WOULD MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE TO COMPLETE OTHER REQUIREMENTS, MORON????

AND IM STILL WAITING FOR THAT LINK. WHY HAVENT I GOTTEN IT YET? HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO ASK FOR IT?

According to USADA, Dr Brown is part of the problem!

USADA thinks so!!! Ooops!

"Dr. Brown is also liable for having possessed a prohibited method and Steve Magness would be responsible for having used a prohibited method. For the reasons set forth above, it appears highly likely that Galen Rupp received an L-carnitine infusion from Dr. Brown in excess of 50 mL in violation of the applicable anti-doping rules and in violation of Dr. Brown’s duty to Galen Rupp not to cause him to violate the rules."

and then there is this:

To the extent that Dr. Brown recommended the use of thyroid medication to increase testosterone levels, this was an invalid treatment;

To the extent that Dr. Brown recommended the use of prescription strength Vitamin D to increase testosterone levels, this was an invalid
treatement;

To the extent that Dr. Brown recommended the use of calcitonin as a preventive therapy to prevent stress fractures, this was an invalid treatment.

Witnesses who went to USADA to point out that SALAZAR tried to beat the system in numerous ways including getting TUEs for meds and methods even when it was not required.



Here is Goucher responding to

"Don't call me a liar, Goucher tells Salazar"

I understand if you read it through, it looks like I am a liar. I don’t like being labeled a liar,” an emotional Goucher

"Goucher, confirming she had been talking to the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) since 2013, said she looked forward to testifying under oath about Salazar over the doping allegations.

“I would welcome that opportunity for myself, for every former Oregon Project member, for every doctor that has been involved, to go under oath,” Goucher, who left Salazar’s group in 2011, said."

"Asked about her discussions with USADA, Goucher said, “I thank them for staying on it, for taking my truth and not passing judgment on it, for fighting to clean up our sport.”

John Cook, says that he is "not surprised" by the allegations and gives even examples on how easy it is to get a TUE.


Many websites support my claim that athletes are trying to abuse the system.

and
Ross Tucker, an exercise physiologist who writes for the Science of Sport website, explains that there are three pillars in which the whole TUE system rests.

“The first is an honest athlete, the second one is that you need a doctor with the integrity and the ethics to not also manipulate the system, and the third one is that you need credible oversight from the sport’s governing body and then WADA,” he said. “If any one of those three things fails, then the TUE system can be abused.”

Like you even said, may I remind you, this is about abusing the TUE system.

Salazar admits to coaching his athletes on how to beat the system as per several witnesses. That is when they are not close to the examining doctor.

When they have a better relationship and the doctor is being paid by the athlete/team then it becomes so much easier to abuse the TUE process. They had Dr Brown.


KABOOOOOM!


Who is WRONG? Travestyny!!!!







.

[ADP02]

You do realize that the entire WADA list of banned substances or methods are "prohibited at all times without prior TUE approval" by default?

Do you?

That's why they have a retroactive TUE process.



Pact@rds are insane.

You keep saying this nonsense and I keep telling you that you are WRONG. It is NOT by default!!!!!

There is a criteria. Some athletes do not require an advance TUE.

In what was brought up by Shape up and myself in other posts, it clearly states that you need a TUE in advance at all times. Of course, unless it's an emergency. Then the athletes' life comes first.

Recovering from dehydration is not a good enough reason unless it's severe dehydration. We all know that Floyd was not extremely dehydrated even though he LIED that he was.


Here are quotes from ASADA

Only certain , higher level athletes need to apply for a TUE in-advance. In-advance TUEs need to be applied for before taking the medication (except for emergency situations and hospital visits). Other athletes are able to apply for a planned retroactive TUE once they have been tested.

Check the list of sports and criteria below that shows which athletes need an in-advance TUE.

If your sport is listed below and you meet one or more of the criteria, you will need an in-advance TUE.

If your sport is not listed below or you do not meet any of the criteria, you should prepare information for a planned retroactive TUE.

Note: The list of sports and criteria listed below requiring an in-advance TUE

Boxing

Any member of the Registered Testing Pool or Domestic Testing Pool.
Any member of a national open team/squad including athletes with a disability.
Any athlete who competes at the Australian Championships (Elite men and Elite Women) .

and as per USADA, Floyd was in a "Registered Testing Pool"




Secondly, there are substances/methods that are only prohibited when in-competition.

So again, you are wrong.

It's NOT the "entire" list!!!



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[ADP02]

Corner this:


Floyd walked in weighin 146.

Floyd drank adequately after the weigh-in.

Floyd has weighed in at around 149 in several of his fights.

Floyd was relatively close to 146 for 30 days

Vitals - ALL NORMAL

Pre-fight form - No issues reported by Floyd

medical exam by NSAC - no reports or signs of severe dehydration noted.

Video right after getting an IV, Floyd is talking about other fighters are drained but he does not.


Sorry but its you guys that are hiding your heads in the sand.












Here is Dr Alex Ariza making sure that Floyd is nice and hydrated.




Look at the smile on Floyd's face! LOL

I don't even know what you're talking about or implying man. Speak clearly please.

You are 100s of pages into this thread yet you do not know what we are talking about? How convenient!


Lets make it so easy that you can even understand.

The above post gave you clear points as proof as to why there was no way that Floyd could have been "extremely dehydrated".



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[travestyny]

That is not what I'm saying. You made it sound like it's a big deal or something that they are able to catch these people .... my point is that it had more to do with the witnesses than anything that USADA found out on their own (initially)





Goucher knows more than you. Right? That is where I got my info. Show me all of the TUEs from that group of athletes. Just one athlete had 3 in the same year in 2009 alone.

Proven wrong?
a) Remember that for at least one time, the doctor had refused to give the IV to the athlete. Salazar explained to Goucher that the athlete can fake a medical condition and tell a lie!!! So that explains your proven wrong!
Salazar explained and admitted to Goucher that there are ways to get a TUE not that he got one in that case!!! Ooops!

Look at all the TUEs from just that one athlete! Only reason the number went down is because some are now legal to use ... BUT if you realized, in combination, those drugs can be performance enhancing!!! and Salazar is not telling us the whole truth. If you read his statements, conversations, emails, the meds were for enhancement performance purposes!!!

b) The initial hack proved that the athlete had 3 TUEs in one year. Not that the 3 TUEs were all that the athletes requested for his entire career!!! Oooops!

c) I believe Goucher over Salazar that that conversation happened. TUE system can be abused as per that conversation!

d) Goucher was proven wrong? ONE PERSON only? Another Ooops!








but



They can be abused and potential to enhance.

Also, we do not have a list of all of his TUEs

Also, may I remind you, Rupp is NOT the only athletes under Salazar.















With he would not always require a TUE. The athletes would use the drugs then Salazar would have them tested prior to the event. When the athlete doesn't pass the test then they would request for a TUE.




1) Goucher was proven wrong? ONE PERSON only? Another Ooops!



2) Ask USADA if Salazar's statements are credible.

3) Ask USADA if Salazar's statements tries to word his statements in a certain way to make it appear that everything is on the up and up even though that is not the case!

4) Ask USADA what he thinks of Salazar's emails to show proof! Ooops!

5) "I do not remember"
a) Some athletes told USADA "I do not remember" but USADA said they used the meds over 50ml.
b) I do not remember doesn't mean "NO, that didn't happen"

6) There was also another time in 2007. So you are saying that Salazar, the one USADA is calling out, is right and Goucher and the other witnesses are wrong and a liar? Ooops!

7) Galen and his teamates have received TUEs don't you remember? Ooops!

8) I'm sure that there is more prior to 2009




HERE is what you said before LOL





LIAR! Go read your previous email. I posted it above.

You said that Salazar had it under 50ml so no TUE was necessary now you realized that was not the case. So now you are changing it up! Ooops!













1) Moron is YOU in believing Salazar instead of the witnesses!

2) This was about abusing a TUE (it can be done) not just about IV .... moron! Ooops!

3) Even John Cook, who worked there too said it's not hard to get a TUE! Moron? Ooops!

He actually agrees with me on a few points. Calls you ignorant on this topic (TUE abuse). Same with being able to pass a test. Same with being ignorant in saying just because the athlete (Floyd) passed a test, that he didn't cheat! I even provided several quotes from USADA agreeing with me. Moron? Ooops!






4) Go check out other websites, this topic comes up! Is everyone a moron? Ooops!










According to USADA, Dr Brown is part of the problem!

USADA thinks so!!! Ooops!


and then there is this:




Witnesses who went to USADA to point out that SALAZAR tried to beat the system in numerous ways including getting TUEs for meds and methods even when it was not required.



Here is Goucher responding to



John Cook, says that he is "not surprised" by the allegations and gives even examples on how easy it is to get a TUE.


Many websites support my claim that athletes are trying to abuse the system.

and
Ross Tucker, an exercise physiologist who writes for the Science of Sport website, explains that there are three pillars in which the whole TUE system rests.




Like you even said, may I remind you, this is about abusing the TUE system.

Salazar admits to coaching his athletes on how to beat the system as per several witnesses. That is when they are not close to the examining doctor.

When they have a better relationship and the doctor is being paid by the athlete/team then it becomes so much easier to abuse the TUE process. They had Dr Brown.


KABOOOOOM!


Who is WRONG? Travestyny!!!!







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LMAOOOOOO. ALL OF THAT AND YET NO PROOF ANYWHERE IN YOUR STATEMENT.

SHOW THE TUE FOR THE IV. ALSO, SHOW THE TUE FOR THE WHOPPING DOSES THAT YOU SPEAK OF. THE TUE’s WERE REVEALED MORON, and NO THE DOSES WERENT HIGH.

YOU LOSE AND YOU CANT ACCEPT IT. THIS IS WHY YOU ARE ONE OF THE WORST PIECES OF SHlT HERE.

THE ****ING DOCTOR PROVED HER WRONG AND YOU SAY ONLY ONE PERSON WAS PROVEN WRONG. LMAOOOO. WHERE IS THE TUE FOR THE IV, ADP02? WHERE IS YOUR PROOF. I HAVE MINE. YOU???

By the way, USADA DIDNT MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT ABUSING THE TUE PROCESS IN THAT WHOLE 200PAGE DOCUMENT!!!

Where is your proof. LETS LAY YOUR PROOF OUT AGAINST MINE AND SEE WHO MAKES A MORE CONVINCING ARGUMENT. GOOD LUCK WHEN I HAVE TUE DOCUMENTS AND DOCTOR STATEMENTS, YOU MORON, AND YOU HAVE THE WORD OF A PERSON WHOM YOU EVEN ADMIT WAS PROVEN WRONG!!!

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I decided to edit this and make it real simple for you.


1. You have zero proof that Salazar manipulated the TUE process besides the word of Kara Goucher and whomever your other phantom runners (her husband...?) are. First of all:

A. The main witness was caught in a lie about riding in a car in Daegu with a US official when Salazar called and ranted about not being able to get an IV. This was proven to be completely false.

She also stated that Rupp got TUE's for IV's before races.

A. Rupp and Salazar go public stating that Rupp has never ever had a TUE for an IV.

B. Fancy Bears hacks WADA and reveal the TUE's that Rupp has had...and not one of them are for an IV.

C. Salazar himself decides to reveal the only other 2 TUE's Rupp had after that point, and they are not for IV's.

D. USADA opens an investigation where they review Salazar's open letter of claims about why he is innocent, and they do NOT reveal that Salazar was lying about Rupp never having a TUE for an IV.

E. Salazar claims that all of Rupp's TUES...ALL OF THEM, were for his asthma and allergies. All of the TUES were in line with someone with known allergy and asthma problems:

For more than 14 years, Dr. Mark T. O’Hollaren and Dr. Barzin Khalili have been treating Galen for his severe allergies and asthma. In 2001, Galen’s pediatrician referred him to Dr. O’Hollaren, one of the leading asthma and allergy medical specialists in the country. Dr. O’Hollaren and Dr. Khalili operate the Allergy Clinic in Portland, which has some of the highest allergen levels in the country. Galen takes a number of prescription medicines to treat his asthma and has received immunotherapy to treat his allergies since 2004.
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Galen has fully disclosed his asthma and allergy treatment to USADA. In 2013, Galen provided USADA with over 500 pages of medical records and documents regarding his asthma treatment and the medications he had taken. These records, which date back to May 2001, include Galen’s medication records and show each time he has been prescribed prednisone to treat his asthma flare ups. USADA reviewed these documents and concurred that Galen’s treatment and use of prescribed medicines were consistent the WADA Code and the manufacturer’s recommended the****utic regimen.

F. Salazar was manipulating TUE's for Rupp right? But Rupp had 0 TUE's in 2013, 0 in 2014, and 0 in 2015. Mind you, from what I can find, Kara went public with her story in 2015


so...your proof is a witness who was proven wrong, and whom you admit was proven wrong, and whom the facts show was wrong. And that's all for your proof.

My proof:

A statement from a doctor saying there was no IV requested in Daegu

An email that makes it clear that Goucher lied about a phonecall requesting a TUE for an IV.

A statement from Salazar telling his athletes to not declare because A TUE WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED.

USADA being on the case and not revealing any false information given by Salazar about TUE's.

Leaked TUE's that reveal no IV and nothing out of the ordinary.

Do I need to say more?

ADMIT THAT YOU ARE WRONG!!!! YOU'RE A DISGRACE!

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WADA
"Whenever it is necessary to seal a partial sample in the A bottle only, it may not be possible to measure the specific gravity of the sample. In this case, a Supplementary Report Form should be completed."

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Let me get the link for this right now, then answer about Salazar. Come on, I know you're here. I'm really interested in seeing this.

You got the link or what?


WHY HAVE YOU BEEN DUCKING THIS SO HARD. I WANT THAT LINK. GIVE IT UP!