Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz Fails Drug Test, Deontay Wilder Fight in Doubt

[champion4ever]

When are y'all naive fans going to understand: Joshua vs Wilder is the cashout. No other fight is going to be allowed to risk that lottery ticket. When will y'all understand, Deontay Wilder was knocked out in the amateurs, in full headgear, against someone most of us have never heard of. Wilder-Povetkin was never going to be allowed to happen. Wilder-Ortiz was never going to be allowed to happen. It's just that it's taken longer than anticipated for the Wilder cashout to happen, due to the unforeseen circumstances with Tyson Fury, and it's gotten so obvious that Wilder is a hype job, which has resulted in the matchup with Joshua not tracking as well as the promoters expected, that the promoters have had to start pulling stunts like this to hype Wilder's name. They know they can't actually put him in real fights to hype his name, otherwise he will lose, so the next best thing they can do is at least have him sign contracts to fight in real fights, but then cancel those fights before they happened.

They even have a convenient "Don't let a drug test ruin our fight, Ortiz" quote from Wilder that he made a week ago or so, sort of the reverse of the viral Jon Jones tweet to Dan Cormier about "Last time your excuse for losing was PEDs. What will your excuse be this time?" that will now be a headline on all the world boxing news websites. Mission accomplished. It doesn't matter if they ruin the careers of foreign boxers like Ortiz or Povetkin, because the USA-UK boxing establishment has their money fight secured for next year between Wilder and Joshua. And until that happens, Wilder's chin is not going to be allowed to be tested by anyone else.

At least, that's my personal opinion, and personal theory, on why this keeps happening.

Your blaming of Deontay Wilder for this fiasco is both pathetic and sad.

[BoxngLove]

Wilder has just about every right to complain or say what he will at this point. There is no way this test is clean. Anyone with an iota of sense knows Ortiz would have mentioned if he was on medication.

Wilder needs to keep his lawyers on retainer, and he can clean out the division one by one without throwing a punch.

[soul_survivor]

lol Ortiz gonna Ortiz.

Two failed tests in teh span of 3 years...Ortiz hsould be properly investigated and if found to be at fault, he should be banend for life.

[Clegg]

That's a damn shame but not a full surprise. People still falling for the BS excuses as well, reminds me of Arum 'yesterday I was lying, today I'm telling the truth'. Last time Ortiz was using roids, this time he really isn't...right? Or like Povetkin he was set-up multiples times. Maybe the two of them could fight for a title made of syringes?

[jdp28tx]

I find it hard to believe that a world class athlete would suffer from high blood pressure so badly that it needs to be medicated.

What a naive statement. Even though he is a boxer and an elite athlete he is still a human being. The same goes for any other athlete no matter what sport. People, athletes included do not have the biology of Captain America. Many would be surprised of the health issues a lot of athletes have, they are just like everyone else and just as vulnerable to disease, illness, health problems as anyone else. This is why I tend to believe Ortiz used this for legit reasons.

[techliam]

However, the fact of the matter is currently Joshua isn't register for either one of them; Not the WBC or WBA. In addition, to my knowledge and I may be wrong but the WBA doesn't have a mandatory VADA testing program like the WBC has.

Yes he is.. and yes the WBA do.

He was under VADA observation for the Wlad fight, and is again for the Pulev fight (the two fights of his sanctioned by the WBA)

Anyone with a WBA title has to follow their Fair Boxing policy - which includes VADA testing. Any contender has up to December 31st to voluntarily join, but will be mandatory afterwards.

[Vinnykin]

**** sake! At this point, just let Wilder and his opponent openly use every PED they want and then get in the ring! I don't care any more.

Cheats, dodgy organisations, deals done in the background, money ruling over everything. Boxing is a ****ing mess and needs sorting out big time!

[champion4ever]

Yes he is.. and yes the WBA do.

He was under VADA observation for the Wlad fight, and is again for the Pulev fight (the two fights of his sanctioned by the WBA)

Anyone with a WBA title has to follow their Fair Boxing policy - which includes VADA testing. Any contender has up to December 31st to voluntarily join, but will be mandatory afterwards.

Well thank you, I stand corrected because I really wasn't sure.

[MoneyKing]

illuminati fiddlers everywhere - gotta keep America strong in the minds of the people worldwide. (its for their up and coming WW3 with North Korea & Russia if you must know)

[oscar9992]

Fails a drug test just like PEDvetkin.