Why was Mayweather able to be so successful after he left Arum?

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Just look at the big fights under arum
Genaro
Corrales
Castillo 1
Castillo 2
Gatti
That's from 1998-2005, a run of nearly eight years

With haymon
Oscar
Hatton
Shane
Marquez
Canelo
Maidana
Manny
Conor


See the difference

Cotto mcgregor $$

[daggum]

He's gifted with intelligence and wisdom.

The first revealed the weaknesses of his opponents.

The second led him to make the right business decisions.

you think floyd is intelligent? floyds one of the dumber americans ive ever seen. im not sure hes even as smart as trump.

[daggum]

True but after the pacquiao success, showtime wudda gave Floyd $32 million to fight me!!!! And I'm NOT Harry greb

well they had to give him 32 million. it was in his contract. he knew this and thats why he cherry picked an easy opponent instead of fighting someone good.

[daggum]

He was an elite-level boxer with loyal, business-minded people around him. His lover Leonard Ellerbe seems to keep him focused and helps make the right moves.

what about that one guy who swindled tens of millions from floyd? he wasnt dat loyal

[daggum]

Just look at the big fights under arum
Genaro
Corrales
Castillo 1
Castillo 2
Gatti
That's from 1998-2005, a run of nearly eight years

With haymon
Oscar
Hatton
Shane
Marquez
Canelo
Maidana
Manny
Conor


See the difference

you really think thats a fair comparison? it takes time and money to build up a fighter. floyd didnt reach ppv level until a year before he left arum. its easy to poach someone who is already super popular and go from there. haymon hasnt made any of his fighters a ppv star that he has built up. floyd would have had big fights no matter who he signed with at that point in his career.

[harry-greb]

Yeah, I figured that wasn't his final payout. He is his own promotion, so he has to get some of the money from the gate, etc.

Even though $30 mil is a ton, he should be getting more than that, if his Mayweather promotions label is tied with the fight.

Which fight are u talking about?? Is it the Mayweather vs de la hoya fight.
If its that fight, Oscar would have been in charge of everything, the way Floyd is now.
Jesus, does arum really take 40%??

[harry-greb]

you really think thats a fair comparison? it takes time and money to build up a fighter. floyd didnt reach ppv level until a year before he left arum. its easy to poach someone who is already super popular and go from there. haymon hasnt made any of his fighters a ppv star that he has built up. floyd would have had big fights no matter who he signed with at that point in his career.

True.
For all arums bad points, nobody brings through young fighters and develops them into stars like arum.

[harry-greb]

well they had to give him 32 million. it was in his contract. he knew this and thats why he cherry picked an easy opponent instead of fighting someone good.

I know but the pacquiao fight was such a big money maker, that showtime didn't care who Floyd chose for his last fight

[Ray*]

I know everyone is talking about this and that etc but it wouldn't have happened with him if he wasn't a free man also. That helped him dictate his career. You can have all the heart, skills, ring generalship, good people around you etc but if you are wedged under a promotional banner that you cannot get out of then you cannot really be free to do what you want to do career-wise.

[whoelsebutjames]

Yeah, I figured that wasn't his final payout. He is his own promotion, so he has to get some of the money from the gate, etc.

Even though $30 mil is a ton, he should be getting more than that, if his Mayweather promotions label is tied with the fight.

I sure it matters how much he really co promoted the fight. There's putting your name on the apron and then there's having your staff involved Day to day.

also, as a promoter he has to pay for the undercards fighter

But you raised a good point. As a copromoter/promoter theoretically his share would go to his company. Not himself directly. See