Why was Mayweather able to be so successful after he left Arum?

[-Kev-]

When Mayweather called out DLH in 2005 and 2006, DLH said no because he doesn't do business with Arum and if Floyd leaves Arum he would fight him. Notice, no one called DLH a ducker for that. Mayweather did the same thing to Cotto and Pacquiao. The Pac fight finally happened in the end because everyone noticed Pac is too ****** to leave Arum.

Mosley, because of being with GBP, also wouldn't fight Floyd as long as he was in TR, and, he had a toothache.

Cotto - This was all Arum's doing, Arum was keeping Cotto away from Floyd when Floyd asked for him while under TR.

Margarito - When Floyd was trying to leave TR after the Judah fight, Arum started to push Margarito onto Floyd for $8 million. Mayweather wanted Cotto and Hatton, who Arum was offering only $7 million for. Floyd asked for him for $10 million for Cotto/Hatton. Mayweather wanted $20 million for Oscar, Arum said he's not working with Oscar.

The reason Mayweather opted for the buyout rather than waiting for the May 6 (DLH-Mayorga) result was because the contract had a limited window for the buyout, one that expired before the De La Hoya fight. However, Arum said he would have extended the window if Mayweather had asked. What Arum wouldn't do, he said, was raise the guarantees for other fights outlined in the contract.

Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.

Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.

"That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."

http://www.espn.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2420382

Arum was not at all interested in making Mayweather-DLH. Here we see a prime example of Arum blocking big money fights for his fighters. Arum's "$20mill isn't there" for DLH was false, Mayweather ended up making $25 million.

[PRINCEKOOL]

His fight up against Oscar De La Hoya, seemed to make him a star! (I always remember it being billed as the super bowl of boxing etc).

[-Kev-]

His fight up against Oscar De La Hoya, seemed to make him a star! (I always remember it being billed as the super bowl of boxing etc).

And DLH never did that against anyone else before or after. Floyd did it 3 more times (2mill+ PPV's).

One could say Chavez Sr made DLH famous, because Chavez Sr was a rock star in Mexico and the Latino-American community. This could be true, but Chavez Sr was not a big PPV star though. So how could a fighter make another fighter? Simple, it's as silly as Dame Dash saying he created Jay-Z, yet can't make another Jay-Z.

Why not?

Fighters don't make each other, fighters make themselves. Floyd made himself with the help of his uncle and his father. No one made Floyd sell the fight like he did, that was him talking and getting fans mad and he did it before vs Gatti and the fight sold quite well considering the fight was promoted by Floyd's trash talking and it was both their first main event PPV.

DLH has 6 losses, Mosley, Hopkins, Trinidad being some of them. Last time I checked neither of these 3 were 1million+ PPV stars ever in their career after fighting DLH. Trinidad at best was a 500k PPV star with the best dance partners, Hopkins was a 400-500k PPV guy at his best with the best fighters he fought, Mosley aside from his May/Pac fights that sold 1million+ because of May/Pac, was a sub 400k guy at his very best vs Vargas and Cotto. Mosley vs Cotto sold something like 350-400k, and Cotto was a welterweight star at the time.

[PRINCEKOOL]

And DLH never did that against anyone else before or after. Floyd did it 3 more times (2mill+ PPV's).

One could say Chavez Sr made DLH famous, because Chavez Sr was a rock star in Mexico and the Latino-American community. This could be true, but Chavez Sr was not a big PPV star though. So how could a fighter make another fighter? Simple, it's as silly as Dame Dash saying he created Jay-Z, yet can't make another Jay-Z.

Why not?

Fighters don't make each other, fighters make themselves. Floyd made himself with the help of his uncle and his father. No one made Floyd sell the fight like he did, that was him talking and getting fans mad and he did it before vs Gatti and the fight sold quite well considering the fight was promoted by Floyd's trash talking and it was both their first main event PPV.

DLH has 6 losses, Mosley, Hopkins, Trinidad being some of them. Last time I checked neither of these 3 were 1million+ PPV stars ever in their career after fighting DLH. Trinidad at best was a 500k PPV star with the best dance partners, Hopkins was a 400-500k PPV guy at his best with the best fighters he fought, Mosley aside from his May/Pac fights that sold 1million+ because of May/Pac, was a sub 400k guy at his very best vs Vargas and Cotto. Mosley vs Cotto sold something like 350-400k, and Cotto was a welterweight star at the time.

I wonder whether there will ever be another boxer, that appears who will have as much POWER & CONTROL over his career as Floyd Mayweather did! (From a business perspective, it was probably one of the most impressive things he has achieved!)....

I just think Floyd Mayweather came along at the right time (He was lucky in that sense), if he was fighting during his prime during the 90's? There would be no way, he would be able to compete with the Heavyweights! And i don't think he would of made as much money, or have been a box office star...

[GhostofDempsey]

So is Haymon overpaying his fighters or underpaying them? Which is it?

You haters need to get your agenda straight.

How is it hating. I am only stating a fact. He failed to turn them into household names and they are all underachieving. They are only earning what they are worth. No more and no less.