The Mayweather handpicking myth is a lie

[ADP02]

1. Floyd should have fought an undefeated Cotto but Mosley had to do the dirty work for Floyd while Floyd fought a guy (Hatton - King at 140 not 147) that people say that he had lost his fight at 147 and went back down but Floyd got him back up at 147 .....

Floyd fought Cotto at a point where nobody was interested in that fight! Cotto was already demolished by Manny and Margs and was not the same at that point in time.

Everyone is telling you that you are wrong. Roger and Floyd Sr told you that you are wrong. They thought Manny was going to lose. Again, NOBODY was asking for Floyd vs Cotto!!! NOBODY!!!!

How about relatively green Canelo? What happened there? Here we have not 1 but 2 fighters that held belts for that division and Floyd demands a CW after stating that CWs is to drain your opponent!!! Canelo begged for the fight to be at 154 because it drains him. Cotto's quote says that he was asking for 145 from the start!
Canelo said that trying to make weight was the hardest thing that he had to do during his entire training camp!!!!!



Algieri? Is this a joke? Manny had fought bigger guys and was fighting at 147. In this case, Manny was contemplating going back down to 140 but then the Floyd fight happened .....

"According to Roach, tonight's catch weight is nothing more than a trial run to see how Pacquiao feels when fighting a few pounds lighter. If all goes well, we may see a return to Junior Welterweight."




2. The guy said "smells bad", "red flag", and brings up that it shouldn't be used for what it was used for and says that USADA is not being independent!!!

I gave you several quotes. USADA can rapidly appoint the TUEC for an individual. USADA member can talk to TUEC.

USADA said it has to be an emergency type situation. Floyd was interviewing on FLoydHype right after getting the IV (see below video) and saying that he is not drained like his opponents and he is all happy. Sure Floyd needed an IV


MORE DAMAGING QUOTES FROM FLOYD:
Here Floyd says "I'm a lot stronger even though I only walk around at 147".
"Most guys have to drain themselves to come down. They doing that for 10 years."
"For 10 years I have been fighting at the weight that I walk around at 147.
"When I do not train my weight fluctuates between 147 and 150. So I walk around 147/148. So that is why its easy for me to make the weight"



No investigation done on Floyd. He is special. Rubber stamped RETRO TUE requested almost 3 weeks later. Other athletes would get suspended


" I'm not one particular fighter that has drained himself 20 or 30 pounds. I'm a fighter that walks around at 150, 148...I'm extremely happy with everything ... right now"




3. DEFLECTOR!!!!

Lmaooo. You're still ducking, bltch.

1. No one asked for that fight? But Pacquiao was trying to get Cotto to fight him instead at 147. Maybe you forgot that, bltch. Lmaoooo!

2. Bullshlt!!! You believe they asked for a catchweight to see how he deals with going down in weight? You believe anything that team tells you

3. Again, you got the medical records or the application that the TUEC approved of? Didn't think so.

By the way, stop by our debate thread. Billeau left a message for you

Sorry but that is your name ..... DEFLECTOR!!!!

I'm still waiting for you to respond directly to my previous posts .... but you are who you are DEFLECTOR!



1. I was talking about the Floyd vs Cotto fight. It was years too late! NOBODY wanted that fight!

As I told you already, Manny said while training for Margarito that he does not intend to fight above WW again. He can come in much lower than even 147 and as YOU even pointed out he did and requested for it! Thanks for proving that YOU ARE WRONG on this!!!



2. More info on this below .... Manny fought others at 147 who were bigger than Algieri so that is why I say, are you freaking joking? Algieri? LOL!

Were you waiting for Algieri to come out of his cage and demolish Manny???
How many times did Manny knock that guy down? Lost count. LOL! You are a JOKE for even bringing it up the FIRST TIME but to continue bringing it up ....? LOL!!!!!


Roach admitting that its his choice and why:
"That's the only reason we're going to '44, that's our choice, not theirs," stated Roach.

"There's a lot of competition in the 140-pound division. "A lot of them are going to 147 because they want to fight Manny for the bigger money but as soon as Manny goes to 140 all of those [fighters] will come back down."

Roach added "He's never been a big puncher at 147."

"I don't think he's lost his punch or his killer instinct; he's just been fighting bigger, stronger guys. I think the knockouts will still start coming again at 140."



3. Are you talking about the made up medical note that Lance Armstrong gave after he was caught using a banned substance or Floyd's made up note from Dr Alex Ariza for the banned IV bags, the guy who Floyd thanks for saving him from extreme dehydration??? LOL


I remember reading Floyd fans who were protecting Floyd that it took 3 weeks to get the RETRO TUE because it takes that long to investigate RETRO TUE's as they are not handed like candy.

BUT

There was NO INVESTIGATION!
Rubber stamped RETRO TUE due to the $$$$ that Floyd and company had been giving USADA all those years .... just like the WADA TUE expert said, USADA was supposed to be independent but was not!

USADA was freaking out there defending Floyd but slamming Manny for a similar reason!!! WTF!!!



Floyd never required to use banned IVs but did. All the signs show that he didn't require it. Heck, even your Floyd fans, who love to protect Floyd, said that Diego Corrales was not drained because he fought at the same division later but while that is dumb response, how can you Floyd fans believe Floyd? LOL


Diego Corrales didn't make weight .... by 2lbs!!!!
Diego Corrales had the flu and bronchitis going into that fight!!!!
Diego Corrales had other personal issues that he was thinking about (money, jail and more)!!!!

The above happened to Diego but Floyd fans calling that BS .... LOL

How can you Floyd fans believe Floyd? LOL




4. Debate?
You were arguing until your final posts that you didn't agree to what you agreed to initially on the Topic of Discussion!!!! For that and other reasons that you know, That Killed any debate we had ..... Get over it!!!! LOL!!!




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[ShoulderRoll]

Another myth going around is that he was only a defensive fighter.

His offense was spectacular during the Pretty Boy Floyd era.

[maracho]

I was and still am a big fan of Winky Wright but it's absurd to say Floyd ducked him at any point. They were always 2 weight classes apart so LOL @ anyone trying to say he ducked Wright. He wasn't going to get 50-50 for a start and they were cool as well so yeah maybe it could have happened but it made no sense and nobody was calling for it. One guy who BLATANTLY ducked Winky Wright was Oscar De La Hoya nobody talks about that. Of course it would've been a hard fight for Floyd, no matter how great you are it's always tough to beat someone 2 weight classes above you. It's hard to beat someone 1 weight class above you.

Floyd is on record stating that he knew something strange was going on with Margarito because on minute he couldn't crack an egg and the next he was beating people down. Despite that he actually told Bob he was willing to make the fight with Margarito but Bob wanted him to fight Cotto as well. The deal didn't work out because Bob wanted to pay him 8 million for both fights which made no sense since the Cotto fight was worth a lot more money than that and because he ended up leaving The Bobfather and fighting the #1 ranked undisputed champion at WW for more money than he would've got for either of those fights.



Floyd ducked Martinez and Wright? They were both 2 weight classes above him. That's like saying Errol Spence is ducking GGG or that Lomachenko is ducking Terence Crawford. You're trying hard with the trolling but just cut it out. It makes no sense.



Exactly, they were 2 weight classes apart and we are also cool with each other. Floyd beat all the top guys in this era, you can say he could've fought this guy or he could've fought that guy but you can do that with any fighter. There's no legitimately GREAT fighter that was out there who the public demanded he fight and he didn't. But even if he did so what? SRL didn't fight Aaron Pryor, SRR didn't fight Charley Burley and nobody kills them over it.

Right no one complains about them guys because once or twice gets the benefit of the doubt. There is a reason that fans dislike Floyd's actions but he don't care , hes not all there, he also thrives on the social *********** partly because that's mostly what he grew up around. People pay more to see him lose than anyone in recent history, including Gorgeous George and calls it thug cred as he Giggles to the bank, etc

[travestyny]

Sorry but that is your name ..... DEFLECTOR!!!!

I'm still waiting for you to respond directly to my previous posts .... but you are who you are DEFLECTOR!



1. I was talking about the Floyd vs Cotto fight. It was years too late! NOBODY wanted that fight!

As I told you already, Manny said while training for Margarito that he does not intend to fight above WW again. He can come in much lower than even 147 and as YOU even pointed out he did and requested for it! Thanks for proving that YOU ARE WRONG on this!!!



2. More info on this below .... Manny fought others at 147 who were bigger than Algieri so that is why I say, are you freaking joking? Algieri? LOL!

Were you waiting for Algieri to come out of his cage and demolish Manny???
How many times did Manny knock that guy down? Lost count. LOL! You are a JOKE for even bringing it up the FIRST TIME but to continue bringing it up ....? LOL!!!!!


Roach admitting that its his choice and why:
"That's the only reason we're going to '44, that's our choice, not theirs," stated Roach.

"There's a lot of competition in the 140-pound division. "A lot of them are going to 147 because they want to fight Manny for the bigger money but as soon as Manny goes to 140 all of those [fighters] will come back down."

Roach added "He's never been a big puncher at 147."

"I don't think he's lost his punch or his killer instinct; he's just been fighting bigger, stronger guys. I think the knockouts will still start coming again at 140."



3. Are you talking about the made up medical note that Lance Armstrong gave after he was caught using a banned substance or Floyd's made up note from Dr Alex Ariza for the banned IV bags, the guy who Floyd thanks for saving him from extreme dehydration??? LOL


I remember reading Floyd fans who were protecting Floyd that it took 3 weeks to get the RETRO TUE because it takes that long to investigate RETRO TUE's as they are not handed like candy.

BUT

There was NO INVESTIGATION!
Rubber stamped RETRO TUE due to the $$$$ that Floyd and company had been giving USADA all those years .... just like the WADA TUE expert said, USADA was supposed to be independent but was not!

USADA was freaking out there defending Floyd but slamming Manny for a similar reason!!! WTF!!!



Floyd never required to use banned IVs but did. All the signs show that he didn't require it. Heck, even your Floyd fans, who love to protect Floyd, said that Diego Corrales was not drained because he fought at the same division later but while that is dumb response, how can you Floyd fans believe Floyd? LOL


Diego Corrales didn't make weight .... by 2lbs!!!!
Diego Corrales had the flu and bronchitis going into that fight!!!!
Diego Corrales had other personal issues that he was thinking about (money, jail and more)!!!!

The above happened to Diego but Floyd fans calling that BS .... LOL

How can you Floyd fans believe Floyd? LOL




4. Debate?
You were arguing until your final posts that you didn't agree to what you agreed to initially on the Topic of Discussion!!!! For that and other reasons that you know, That Killed any debate we had ..... Get over it!!!! LOL!!!

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The only one that deflects is you. Try to follow, you mental midget.

1. If Mayweahter and Pacquaio both rehydrate to around 150lbs, then why was Mayweather willing to fight Cotto above 147 but Pacquaio wasn't???? I already showed that Pac was rehydrating to 150 before the time of that proposed second Cotto fight. Is it because your boy is a coward? YES. He wanted advantages clearly. You know it and I know it. No amount of your DEFLECTING is going to change that.

2. So tell me...who were all of these fighters that Manny went and fought at 140? Where they at? LMAOOOO. You are such a ****** little cvnt, you know that? Who did he fight at 140, ADP02? Post up the bout! Stop owning yourself.

3. Your whole Lance bullshlt is ****** when USADA destroyed him. You do realize that, don't you? Don't try to compare what he did with the UCI when USADA busted both of them, you idiot.

Once again, USADA, the DCO, the independent TUEC that consists of 3 doctors, the independent WADA LAB, Floyd's personal physician, the paramedic, and perhaps even WADA itself would have to have been involved for your conspiracy theory to happen, which makes no ****ing sense when USADA could have just stayed away from the scene of the IV you absolute moron!

Oh, they would have found plasticizers, right? Didn't I already prove you wrong about that, like I've proven you wrong a billion times you dumb bltch? Plasticizers aren't used in IV bags. It's used for blood bags.

By the way:

WADA confirmed that under the 2015 World Anti-Doping Code and the International Standard for The****utic Use Exemptions (ISTUE), a retroactive TUE can be granted for an IV drip to combat dehydration. “For a case that would be monitored by WADA, yes the ISTUE could allow for intravenous infusions to be used in instances of dehydration”, a WADA spokesperson told the Sports Integrity Initiative.

http://www.sportsintegrityinitiative.com/usada-defends-its-action-over-mayweather-iv-tue/

But you already knew that, didn't you?

4. Go check out our debate thread. Some posters with strong reputations telling you to man up. You should take their advice, you little bltch

TRY DEFLECTING THAT, BlTCH!

[travestyny]

Roach admitting that its his choice and why:
"That's the only reason we're going to '44, that's our choice, not theirs," stated Roach.

"There's a lot of competition in the 140-pound division. "A lot of them are going to 147 because they want to fight Manny for the bigger money but as soon as Manny goes to 140 all of those [fighters] will come back down."

Roach added "He's never been a big puncher at 147."

"I don't think he's lost his punch or his killer instinct; he's just been fighting bigger, stronger guys. I think the knockouts will still start coming again at 140."

This proves my point exactly!!!! He rehydrates to 150 or over but according to you and Roach he is testing to see if he can get down to 140 because he has a better chance of knocking out smaller fighters! It even says the guys at 140 are willing to go up to 147! He wants them to come back down to 140 because he thinks he can get some knockouts! You are a moron


Thanks for proving my point that he is fishing for advantages, chump!

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[travestyny]

Cotto was the first true WW and people thought that Manny would be too small for a true WW.

Here's some more for you, bltch. Manny Pacquiao agreeing with exactly what I said. He purposely put Cotto at a disadvantage!

And the effort, according to him, is really going to be very demanding.“Mahirap talaga `yung hindi ka kakain. Malaking epekto `yun pag-dating sa fight, especially kung dikdikan ang laban. Disadvantage talaga pag nagre-reduce ka," he said.

You got that? You speak Tagalog, don't you? Oh.. let me translate that for you.

"It's really hard for you to eat. It's a big impact to the fight, especially when the fight is over. Disadvantage really is when you're reducing, "

Pacquiao pointed out that the weight reduction the Puerto Rican is doing may play a crucial role in the outcome of their World Boxing Organization (WBO) welterweight championship bout a week from now.

Aside from sweating it out, Pacquiao said Cotto also needed to lessen his food intake for him to go down at the desired catch weight of 145 pounds.

At the moment, Pacquiao weighs around 148 to 149 pounds, but easily loses three pounds at the most after workout just like he did Saturday at the Wild Card gym.
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/sport...n-fight/story/

LMAOOOO. YOUR BOY IS A ****ING DISGRACE!!!! WHY DON'T YOU SPEND SOME TIME CRITICIZING THIS FRAUD!!!

[Elroy The Great]

I'll take a look

no rush. im sure he will make himself out to be the one who was willing.

[rickJen]

Take if from Chollo Vista:
Floyd straight up ducked Cotto in 2008

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=753129

[maracho]

no rush. im sure he will make himself out to be the one who was willing.

Sergio Martinez: "Floyd had enough time to reach a deal. Anyway, if he wants the fight he knows who he has to speak with. I said 150 and I will keep my promise. The same way I ask Hopkins and Ward [to meet at] a catch-weight, I don’t have problems in fighting at Jr. Middleweight.Talk is cheap. Fight or shut up. November would be a good month. I would have enough time to reach 150 and you could be recovered from your holidays.”

Lou Dibella: "Floyd would be favored at 150. Cotto is a dead man at 154. Cotto is a half-shot. He's a great fighter, but he gets hit by everything. He incented Cotto to make a big money fight. It's very smart business. It's very smart business. If he wants to handicap Sergio, we'll fight him as low as 150. And we'll give him 80% of the money."

..but it appears that after he brazenly called out Martinez, Floyd Mayweather became as silent as a lil mouse

[Elroy The Great]

Sergio Martinez: Floyd had enough time to reach a deal. Anyway, if he wants the fight he knows who he has to speak with. I said 150 and I will keep my promise. The same way I ask Hopkins and Ward [to meet at] a catch-weight, I don’t have problems in fighting at Jr. Middleweight.Talk is cheap. Fight or shut up. November would be a good month. I would have enough time to reach 150 and you could be recovered from your holidays.”

Lou Dibella: "Floyd would be favored at 150. Cotto is a dead man at 154. Cotto is a half-shot. He's a great fighter, but he gets hit by everything. He incented Cotto to make a big money fight. It's very smart business. If he wants to handicap Sergio, we'll fight him as low as 150. And we'll give him 80% of the money."

..but it appears that after he brazenly called out Martinez, Floyd Mayweather became as silent as a lil mouse

im not concerned about call outs. impartial proof of ducking is what its all about.