The Mayweather handpicking myth is a lie

[Juan Acero]

Dispelling the myth that Mayweather fought his opponents at the wrong time. The short sightedness of fans is off the charts. One fan says it and All the boxing analyst run with it.

Genaro hernandez. Only lost to delahoya in the mid 90s before Floyd was factor

Angel Manfreddy. Was a feared boxer at the time and hadn't lost in years before Floyd. Lasted two or 3 rounds

Diego corralles. Undefeated and Floyd was considered the underdog.

Castillo went on to beat corralles and Joel Casamayor afterwards.

Chop chop. This was his first fight at jr welter and he went toe to toe with him Chop chop had two losses at the time and one was to Judah. This is notable since in this fight Larry Merchant and the HBO cast said Gatti and sharmba Mitchell would beat Floyd and Floyd would not fight him. 2004(watch it on YouTube to hear, it was a good fight anyway)

Gatti 2005. Only took one fight before this. But By the time this fight started regardless of what was said and forgotten two fights earlier- Floyds now the favorite. Gatti was still on his win streak since Mickey Ward2003. What changed ?

Sharmba. 2005 Coming of lost to Tzu but still everybody said Floyd Couldn't beat him 3 fights earlier and e had already lost to Tzu back in 2003

Judah was coming off loss to Carlos baldomir. This was floyds first fight at welter. Hardly cherry picking when moving up in weight

Baldomir. Had just beaten Judah and Gatti. Had no recent losses. Only the losses he already had prior to beating Judah

Delahoya. Was partially inactive before Mayweather other than a tuneup. Had been fighting at super welter and middle in his fights before being inactive

Ricky Hatton. Was undefeated and had beat the feared kosta tzu

Shane mosely had just beat the breaks of margarito one fight prior to Mayweather.

Cottos only losses were PAC and margarito at the time

Guerrero only had one loss and back then people on this forum thought he was the second coming. Had no recent losses.

Victor Ortiz had beat berto and Nate cambell prior to the fight

Canelo. Was undefeated. Had beaten cintron and mosely

*** never fought TZU who was done after Hatton in 2005. Two years after Floyd entered the jr Welters
*** never fought margarito at 147 who was proven to be a cheater later
*** never fought Vernon Forrest, Quintana, Paul Williams
*** mosely, Trinidad, and Vargas were in the welterweights when Floyd fought corralles at featherweight/lightweight

The only the knock on Floyd is that he didn't fight PAC at the time when PAC destroyed Cotto. People just wanted Floyd to loose. He faced most of his biggest opponents within 2 fights of people calling them out for him. With the exception of Judah and PAC the handpicking myth is a lie. The real issue is that Floyd had a 13 year prime while most fighters primes only last 5 years.

Does it bother you so many people view floyd as an overrated duck bum??

I think it does...

You seem passionate about convincing people....
sad....

[maracho]

You ignored all the facts I posted and came up with this false propaganda in a desperate attempt to deflect away from the fact I just totally shut down your argument and posted circles around you. I expected a better response. LOL.

Now you're really making no sense. First of all all athletes living and training in the United States are subject to USADA testing, even if the baloney you posted was true and he was tested by WADA, it would have been exactly the same as the USADA testing. So you're trying to say USADA are corrupt and they defended Armstrong when they single handedly brought him down, you know that right? We're talking boxing not cycling but since you brought it up the UCI was corrupt but USADA has exposed more drug cheats than anyone else so to say they're corrupt or have preferences is pure comedy. They're the gold standard for testing and have never been involved in any cover ups. Armstrong tried to bribe them and they sent the feds after him. This was an American hero with a ton of money. Yet they went after him and exposed him. Why would a corrupt organization do that?

Manny could've had the fight in 2009 but ran away due to drug testing. Mosley could've had the fight in the early 2000's and in 2006 but avoided Floyd twice. Floyd asked Arum to fight Cotto after the Gatti fight and both he and his uncle agreed he wasn't ready. Floyd beat the best for 20 years and is easily one of the GOATS. It's got to the point where you trolls can't even begin to debate it anymore. The guy who introduced the strictest testing was cheating?

I already told you that USADA and Catlin were willfully ignorant about Lance for years and probably right until he stopped supporting them. Funny that both Lance Armstrog and Floyd Mayweather both acted the promoters of PED free athletes in their respective sports..lol

WADA is supposed to set the standards for USADA, which tests USA fighters, hence the name USADA. However, USADA and Mayweather lie when they say they follow WADA testing and USADA has covered up various Golden Boy fighters namely Eric Morales and Floyd Mayweather

https://www.sbnation.com/longform/20...ng-trust-usada

[travestyny]

1. Floyd should have fought an undefeated Cotto but Mosley had to do the dirty work for Floyd while Floyd fought a guy (Hatton - King at 140 not 147) that people say that he had lost his fight at 147 and went back down but Floyd got him back up at 147 .....

Floyd fought Cotto at a point where nobody was interested in that fight! Cotto was already demolished by Manny and Margs and was not the same at that point in time.

Everyone is telling you that you are wrong. Roger and Floyd Sr told you that you are wrong. They thought Manny was going to lose. Again, NOBODY was asking for Floyd vs Cotto!!! NOBODY!!!!

How about relatively green Canelo? What happened there? Here we have not 1 but 2 fighters that held belts for that division and Floyd demands a CW after stating that CWs is to drain your opponent!!! Canelo begged for the fight to be at 154 because it drains him. Cotto's quote says that he was asking for 145 from the start!
Canelo said that trying to make weight was the hardest thing that he had to do during his entire training camp!!!!!



Algieri? Is this a joke? Manny had fought bigger guys and was fighting at 147. In this case, Manny was contemplating going back down to 140 but then the Floyd fight happened .....

"According to Roach, tonight's catch weight is nothing more than a trial run to see how Pacquiao feels when fighting a few pounds lighter. If all goes well, we may see a return to Junior Welterweight."




2. The guy said "smells bad", "red flag", and brings up that it shouldn't be used for what it was used for and says that USADA is not being independent!!!

I gave you several quotes. USADA can rapidly appoint the TUEC for an individual. USADA member can talk to TUEC.

USADA said it has to be an emergency type situation. Floyd was interviewing on FLoydHype right after getting the IV (see below video) and saying that he is not drained like his opponents and he is all happy. Sure Floyd needed an IV


MORE DAMAGING QUOTES FROM FLOYD:
Here Floyd says "I'm a lot stronger even though I only walk around at 147".
"Most guys have to drain themselves to come down. They doing that for 10 years."
"For 10 years I have been fighting at the weight that I walk around at 147.
"When I do not train my weight fluctuates between 147 and 150. So I walk around 147/148. So that is why its easy for me to make the weight"



No investigation done on Floyd. He is special. Rubber stamped RETRO TUE requested almost 3 weeks later. Other athletes would get suspended


" I'm not one particular fighter that has drained himself 20 or 30 pounds. I'm a fighter that walks around at 150, 148...I'm extremely happy with everything ... right now"




3. DEFLECTOR!!!!

Lmaooo. You're still ducking, bltch.

1. No one asked for that fight? But Pacquiao was trying to get Cotto to fight him instead at 147. Maybe you forgot that, bltch. Lmaoooo!

2. Bullshlt!!! You believe they asked for a catchweight to see how he deals with going down in weight? You believe anything that team tells you

3. Again, you got the medical records or the application that the TUEC approved of? Didn't think so.

By the way, stop by our debate thread. Billeau left a message for you

[Elroy The Great]

He ducked a few guys.

I wouldn't say Mayweather "didn't" cherry pick, but I would say that his cherry picking was overblown.

Mostly it's just people wishing that he got beat by someone. prime Pacquiao, brick hands Margarito, and people were heavily calling for Floyd to fight Golovkin just to try to see him lose in any way possible

You can't fight everybody.

no one has yet to prove may ''ducked'' anyone.

definition of ''ducking''; to outright avoid fighting a guy due to fear, when said fighter was available and ready to sign a contract.


may fought enough guys but the naysayers still weep. they dont understand promotion comp, networks, availability, they other guy agreeing......

they still blame may for the pac fight not happening sooner

[maracho]

Track record winky ducked odh, many others the same way....

Wrong, it was not at all the same way. Oscar called out Winky who said right from the start that he wanted more money--the same kinda money that other Oscar opponents were getting.
In contrast, Floyd publicly called out Winky who accepted and was happy with the financial split but then Floyd called off the deal at the last second. He did the same with Martinez, which is the typical kinda shlt that real people dont like about Mayweather

[Elroy The Great]

Wrong, it was not at all the same way. Oscar called out Winky who said right from the start that he wanted more money--the same kinda money that other Oscar opponents were getting.
In contrast, Floyd publicly called out Winky who accepted and was happy with the financial split but then Floyd called off the deal at the last second, which is the typical kinda shlt that real people dont like about Mayweather

not that i doubt you but i love links. can you provide one

[maracho]

not that i doubt you but i love links. can you provide one

http://www.espn.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2113721

[Elroy The Great]

http://www.espn.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2113721

i should have been clear (although this shouldnt need to be said); links to one sided gossip doesnt qualify.

any factual, IMPARTIAL links

[maracho]

i should have been clear (although this shouldnt need to be said); links to one sided gossip doesnt qualify.

any factual, IMPARTIAL links

ESPN or not, reporters cant just go around slandering and defaming without paying the price so the burden is on you to provide Arum's and Mayweather's counter arguments; instead of just your buddy's in this thread

[Elroy The Great]

ESPN or not, reporters cant just go around slandering and defaming without paying the price so the burden is on you to provide Arum's and Mayweather's counter arguments; instead of just buddies in this thread

a promoter is always going to slant the other guy. nothing ''factual'' in that link. just one side telling it their way.

i have no burden. i didnt declare anything. i was following your line of truth.