The Mayweather handpicking myth is a lie

[maracho]

Winky Wright? That's all you chumps have left? Winky Wright? RFLMAO!!!

They couldn't make a deal $, happens all the time. Floyd fought everyone he needed to fight to be all time Top 3. Deal with it. 50-0 and fought more champs than any fighter.

Winky Wright.... LOL,,,, seriously? LOL!!!

News flash, if you're ducking someone you don't have your team waste time negotiating with them.

Mayweather said: “I would love to come back and fight the winner of Williams-Martinez. That’s the biggest fight right now. And those two guys would be one of the best draws fighting against “Money” Mayweather.”

Even though Mayweather was the 154 pound champ, he would later say: "I’ll fight Sergio Martinez next if he can make 150lbs”

Martinez called his bluff at both 154 and 150 but Mayweather shut the door just like he did against Winky Wright

[Elroy The Great]

Even though Mayweather called Winky out, he would later admit that he ducked the fight because Winky wanted a 50/50 split. Mayweather's excuse was that HBO didnt like Winky, that Winky was a one-armed fighter without defense,had no good record, hadnt made any big money, bla bla bla. See same link above.

Bottom line, Floyd ducked Winky just like he did Martinez. Unlike Floyd, Winky wasnt afraid of anybody, he didnt call people out just to run and hide and he didnt try to be a control freak

again, all we need now is to read it straight from mays own mouth.

[JK1700]

Good post. It's always nice to hear the fighters point of view and confirms he wanted 50/50.

Imo Winky is a welter weight killer and a cherry picker, who was 5'10 and walked around at 190- then cut to 154. His biggest fights were Mosely, Trinidad and Vargas who were best at Welter. He record against comp his own size is spotty. Benard loss. Taylor draw. And stalled his own career out over money and feeling he didn't get fair decisions. Came back and losses to Paul Williams. If Winky wanted to cherry pick the little guys he should of expected to take less money- this might sound unreasonable to you but it doesn't to me.

I personally also think Winky Would of given Floyd fits and possibly beat him. I also think Benard and Jermain Taylor would definatively beat Floyd worst.

Also, At the time I was huge fan of Floyd and Margarito. I would even have went so far to say Floyd ducked Margarito-- back then. But After learning Margarito used Plaster Wraps i really can't fault him for it now. That's absurd. Of course, floyd didn't know at the time -- but here's the thing about boxing that even after gimmick after gimmick, that most people haven't learned-- if it sounds to good to be true- it is. I also think it's very likely Mosely was roiding vs Margarito. His next flight was against Floyd and his muscle definition and strength were completely different under USDA testing-- one fight and a few months later. But with boxing fans there's not plausible deniability.

But here's the caveat. Can you legitimately question a fighters whole resume on these things??

These are the real questions when you compare somebody that was at the top for 13 years to other fighters who had 5 year reigns.

I was and still am a big fan of Winky Wright but it's absurd to say Floyd ducked him at any point. They were always 2 weight classes apart so LOL @ anyone trying to say he ducked Wright. He wasn't going to get 50-50 for a start and they were cool as well so yeah maybe it could have happened but it made no sense and nobody was calling for it. One guy who BLATANTLY ducked Winky Wright was Oscar De La Hoya nobody talks about that. Of course it would've been a hard fight for Floyd, no matter how great you are it's always tough to beat someone 2 weight classes above you. It's hard to beat someone 1 weight class above you.

Floyd is on record stating that he knew something strange was going on with Margarito because on minute he couldn't crack an egg and the next he was beating people down. Despite that he actually told Bob he was willing to make the fight with Margarito but Bob wanted him to fight Cotto as well. The deal didn't work out because Bob wanted to pay him 8 million for both fights which made no sense since the Cotto fight was worth a lot more money than that and because he ended up leaving The Bobfather and fighting the #1 ranked undisputed champion at WW for more money than he would've got for either of those fights.

Even though Mayweather called Winky out, he would later admit that he ducked the fight because Winky wanted a 50/50 split. Mayweather's excuse was that HBO didnt like Winky, that Winky was a one-armed fighter without defense,had no good record, hadnt made any big money, bla bla bla. See same link above.

Bottom line, Floyd ducked Winky just like he did Martinez. Unlike Floyd, Winky wasnt afraid of anybody, he didnt call people out just to run and hide and he didnt try to be a control freak

Floyd ducked Martinez and Wright? They were both 2 weight classes above him. That's like saying Errol Spence is ducking GGG or that Lomachenko is ducking Terence Crawford. You're trying hard with the trolling but just cut it out. It makes no sense.

Winky Wright? That's all you chumps have left? Winky Wright? RFLMAO!!!

They couldn't make a deal $, happens all the time. Floyd fought everyone he needed to fight to be all time Top 3. Deal with it. 50-0 and fought more champs than any fighter.

Winky Wright.... LOL,,,, seriously? LOL!!!

News flash, if you're ducking someone you don't have your team waste time negotiating with them.

Exactly, they were 2 weight classes apart and we are also cool with each other. Floyd beat all the top guys in this era, you can say he could've fought this guy or he could've fought that guy but you can do that with any fighter. There's no legitimately GREAT fighter that was out there who the public demanded he fight and he didn't. But even if he did so what? SRL didn't fight Aaron Pryor, SRR didn't fight Charley Burley and nobody kills them over it.

[djtmal]

hell yeah floyd ducked and cherrypicked....added new wrinkles to the game...

[uppercut510]

why is Floyd the only fighters resume that is constantly critiqued???, if we did this for a lot of fighters and ATGs u all would be in for a big suprise

[whoelsebutjames]

Mayweather turns down $8 million to fight Margarito
Apr 25, 2006
Dan RafaelESPN Senior Writer 

Pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather Jr. rejected promoter Bob Arum's $8 million offer to fight welterweight titlist Antonio Margarito, and he instead exercised a provision in his contract to buy Arum out and become a promotional free agent, Arum told ESPN.com on Monday.
According to Arum, Mayweather turned down the career-best purse to meet Margarito on Aug. 12 on HBO Pay-Per-View, instead opting for free agency by buying Arum out of their deal for $750,000.
"I did hear from him," Arum said of Mayweather. "He decided not to fight this summer. I made him a tremendous offer. I think Margarito is the riskiest fight for him of anyone out there."
Mayweather adviser Leonard Ellerbe told ESPN.com that Mayweather passed on the fight not because he is ducking Margarito, but because he couldn't be ready to fight by Aug. 12. Mayweather injured his right hand during a dominating April 8 victory against Zab Judah.
"Floyd is not 100 percent healthy," Ellerbe said. "He has a bruised right hand. His hand is not broken. It's bruised, but it's a bad bruise. He wants to go into any fight 100 percent healthy. If Antonio Margarito happens to be the best available option when he is healthy, so be it.
"We are not turning down Margarito. I want to make that crystal clear. When and if he is the best available option for Floyd's next fight, that's the direction he will move in."
With Aug. 12 no longer set aside for a Mayweather fight, Arum said he will use the date to feature one of his other stars, heavyweight titlist Hasim Rahman, in a mandatory title defense against Oleg Maskaev on HBO PPV.
That bout, a rematch of Maskaev's 1999 knockout victory, took on greater significance last weekend in the wake of Wladimir Klitschko's title-winning knockout of Chris Byrd in Germany.
The reason: Among the four recognized heavyweight title holders, Klitschko became the third from a former Soviet republic to beat an American to win a belt, leaving Rahman as the lone American heavyweight champion and Maskaev poised to give Eastern Europe a sweep of the titles in boxing's marquee division.
Arum said Mayweather preferred to await the outcome of the May 6 Oscar De La Hoya-Ricardo Mayorga fight instead of committing to Margarito because he would prefer to fight De La Hoya.
"We're not sitting waiting on De La Hoya," Ellerbe said. "He's in a tough, tough fight with Mayorga."
Many in the sport believe a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight is the biggest fight on the horizon and the only one capable of generating 1 million-plus buys on pay-per-view.
The reason Mayweather opted for the buyout rather than waiting for the May 6 result was because the contract had a limited window for the buyout, one that expired before the De La Hoya fight. However, Arum said he would have extended the window if Mayweather had asked. What Arum wouldn't do, he said, was raise the guarantees for other fights outlined in the contract.
Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.
Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.
"That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."
Ellerbe said Mayweather opted for the buyout so he could be "more in control of when and who he fights next. It's as simple as that. There is nothing bad between Floyd and Bob."
Arum agreed that the split with Mayweather was not on bad terms like their brief breakup last year. In fact, Arum said, "We intend to be back together. Everything with this was honorable and good. I had offered him numbers [for a multi-fight contract extension] that were livable. His expectations are in the stratosphere. He was entitled to buy me out, and he did. We decided this was the best way to handle it. He is a free agent. We have agreed to work with each other [in the future]."
The split frees Mayweather to make a potential deal with De La Hoya without Arum as part of the promotion. His involvement would have made making a deal almost impossible: The head of Top Rank has openly feuded with De La Hoya, his former superstar, and their companies rarely do business together as a result.
Arum said he was simply not interested in participating in a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight, but not because of his distaste for De La Hoya.
"I don't want to, because if I did that fight, I would be working for such a small percentage, it's not worth it," he said.
Instead, Arum is turning his attention to the Rahman-Maskaev fight.
Arum said that he and Maskaev representative Dennis Rappaport are about $300,000 apart on making a deal. If they don't finalize terms, the WBC will hold a purse bid May 1 in Mexico City.
But Arum is confident they will make the deal.
"We're very close," he said. "It will take another day to work it out."
Arum said he is already making arrangements to announce the fight at a news conference in New York on May 10. He added that the fight would take place at either Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, N.J., or at the Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas.
Arum said Margarito could wind up on the Rahman-Maskaev card in the co-feature.
"But it's tentative," Arum said. "If Mayweather decides to fight in September or October, and Margarito could still be a candidate, I want him to be flexible."

http://www.espn.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2420382


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The majority of Mayweather propaganda came from Arum once he couldn't make no money off him.

Arum says here Mayweather agreed to face Margarito --but would not agree to contract extensions because of the garauntees for the proposed fights.

Sounds like the exact same story we heard from Mikey Garcias break up with Arum.

Who was only interested in contract extensions, his percentage, and couldn't imagine that a fight between de la Hoya and Mayweather could be worth 20 mil. No money in it he says. Somehow he mistakenly the thought Margarito was the bigger draw?!?!??

[maracho]

again, all we need now is to read it straight from mays own mouth.

I'll take a look

[maracho]

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I was and still am a big fan of Winky Wright but it's absurd to say Floyd ducked him at any point. They were always 2 weight classes apart so LOL @ anyone trying to say he ducked Wright. He wasn't going to get 50-50 for a start and they were cool as well so yeah maybe it could have happened but it made no sense and nobody was calling for it. One guy who BLATANTLY ducked Winky Wright was Oscar De La Hoya nobody talks about that. Of course it would've been a hard fight for Floyd, no matter how great you are it's always tough to beat someone 2 weight classes above you. It's hard to beat someone 1 weight class above you.

Floyd is on record stating that he knew something strange was going on with Margarito because on minute he couldn't crack an egg and the next he was beating people down. Despite that he actually told Bob he was willing to make the fight with Margarito but Bob wanted him to fight Cotto as well. The deal didn't work out because Bob wanted to pay him 8 million for both fights which made no sense since the Cotto fight was worth a lot more money than that and because he ended up leaving The Bobfather and fighting the #1 ranked undisputed champion at WW for more money than he would've got for either of those fights.



Floyd ducked Martinez and Wright? They were both 2 weight classes above him. That's like saying Errol Spence is ducking GGG or that Lomachenko is ducking Terence Crawford. You're trying hard with the trolling but just cut it out. It makes no sense.



Exactly, they were 2 weight classes apart and we are also cool with each other. Floyd beat all the top guys in this era, you can say he could've fought this guy or he could've fought that guy but you can do that with any fighter. There's no legitimately GREAT fighter that was out there who the public demanded he fight and he didn't. But even if he did so what? SRL didn't fight Aaron Pryor, SRR didn't fight Charley Burley and nobody kills them over it.

Again Floyd called Winky and Sergio out publicly and they were both willing to go down to weights that Floyd demanded but Floyd kept doing the chicken dance and let his mouth overload his @ss

[amuroray]

Floyd has admitted on film that he has cherrypicked

He has bragged about it.

[maracho]

Floyd has admitted on film that he has cherrypicked

He has bragged about it.

Right, thats why he changed his name to Money May and he has no problem stating that he always looks for an opponants blueprint to lose because he feels that a lot of his craftiness expands outside the ring. He also always says something like not he'll not let boxing retire him....so he just retires multiple times until the pressure is gone or a big opportunity comes along