The Mayweather handpicking myth is a lie

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  • whoelsebutjames
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    #101
    Originally posted by maracho
    Lol..go watch Hatton vs Urango and Colazzo and get back to me. Lol..Floyd himself incessantly brought McGregor's chokeout by Diaz
    Having an off night and saying a fighter is ruined are two different things. All fighters have off nights. That doesn't even make sense.

    Hatton was undefeated, under 30 and in his prime, toppled and retired the "most feared" jr welter king and Floyd ruined him.

    Your whole argument is double talk and parrellelism. Floyd brought up the choke out to say McGreggors a quitter not because it was relevant to boxing.

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    • Johnny2x2x
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      #102
      Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34
      Boxing is gonna miss Floyd, like it or not!

      Of course there will always be good fights, great fights and classics but there's nothing like a polarizing, combined talent, level of skill, work ethic and controversy carrying fighter like Mayweather that gets the world to talk about boxing!
      How many years before Mayweather's not the dominant topic of discussion on this board? Over under is 4 IMO.

      I think the tone has shifted a little around his legacy. Very few totally irrational haters left. people are starting to look at his legacy a little more honestly.

      I think Arum screwing over Pacquaio with Horn has a little to do with that. Dana White calling out Arum this week too makes it obvious that Arum was always the probelm in making fights with Floyd, also evidenced by the fact that it took Cotto all of 3 weeks to sign a fight with Floyd after he left Arum briefly.

      Mayweather doesn't have a perfect fight card, but in this day and age with so much money and massive egos, he fought a ton of the best fighters he could and went undefeated despite moving up 5 weight classes. I thhink his legacy is going to be appreciated more and more as the years pass.

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      • Mr Objecitivity
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        #103
        Excellent post. I totally agree!

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        • maracho
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          #104
          Originally posted by whoelsebutjames
          Having an off night and saying a fighter is ruined are two different things. All fighters have off nights. That doesn't even make sense.

          Hatton was undefeated, under 30 and in his prime, toppled and retired the "most feared" jr welter king and Floyd ruined him.

          Your whole argument is double talk and parrellelism. Floyd brought up the choke out to say McGreggors a quitter not because it was relevant to boxing.
          Strawman, I said Hatton was obviously on his way out because he really lost to Colazzo and was just awful against Urango

          Your right though about Mcgregor being irrelevant to boxing

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          • maracho
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            #105
            Originally posted by JK1700
            Floyd tried to fight Pacquiao for years dating all the way back to 2009 but Manny was too scared of needles and Bob did everything he could not to make it happen. He wanted to make a ton of money off Manny first because he knew once he fought Floyd it was game over for him.

            Hatton was undefeated when he fought Floyd, LOL! You can pick holes in anyone's resume. If you're gonna do this you could say Manny fought about 10 guys who were coming off losses. Even if it's true in 3-4 cases with Floyd, there's still 25 or so top guys on his resume who were on top of their game when he fought them.
            Ha..speaking of needles, Manny wanted to be tested by WADA not only because he was a Filipino training in Philippines but because Floyd suddenly insisted on working with a USADA, who he had just paid $100,000. USADA's Tygard also played golf regularly with Floyd's promoter Golden Boy who lost a defamation lawsuit concerning PEDS.Tygart was Oscar's main witness..lol USADA also had a long and dismal track record of cover ups (Marion Jones, Trevor Graham, Lance Armstrong to name just a few) and the only reason that they finally went after Lance Armstrong was to bring down their main competitor-- International Cycling Union who was being paid off by Armstrong for years. before that they covered up Lance too, that is until Lance denied Don Catlin lab funding. Anyway USADA has a long history of screwing Manny just like they used to try and screw Armstrong's competitors

            Likewise, its no wonder that renowned PED peddler Don Hale took Floyd in and became one of his best friends over the years after Floyd Sr. went to prison
            Last edited by maracho; 08-31-2017, 09:47 AM.

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            • whoelsebutjames
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              #106
              Originally posted by maracho
              Strawman, I said Hatton was obviously on his way out because he really lost to Colazzo and was just awful against Urango

              Your right though about Mcgregor being irrelevant to boxing
              You are resting your opinion on your observation of Hattons condition at the time of the fight. You could be right, you could be wrong that's the problem with totally subjective arguments. Subjective arguments should support stronger objective facts. In order for us to have a clear debate I'd have to be willing to allow you to define the whole conversation on your whims.

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              • maracho
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                #107
                Originally posted by whoelsebutjames
                You are resting your opinion on your observation of Hattons condition at the time of the fight. You could be right, you could be wrong that's the problem with totally subjective arguments. Subjective arguments should support stronger objective facts. In order for us to have a clear debate I'd have to be willing to allow you to define the whole conversation on your whims.
                Hatton looking like shiat and reduced to wrestling against both Urango and Colazzo 10x more than even McGregor is very objective

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                • maracho
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                  #108
                  Oh and remember when Floyd called out both Winky Wright and Sergio Martinez only to later let his mouth overload his arse. Lol..Floyd kept making all these crazy demands but Winky and Sergio just kept accepting them.

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                  • maracho
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by whoelsebutjames
                    Your whole argument is double talk and parrellelism. Floyd brought up the choke out to say McGreggors a quitter not because it was relevant to boxing.
                    Uh Floyd brought it up during a boxing promotion for his 50th win. Funny thing is, there's quite a few boxers that have better than 50-0

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                    • Joeyzagz
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                      #110
                      Go youtube:

                      Ra the Rugged Man
                      Rude Jude
                      Brian Kenny

                      When you listen to those interviews in 2017 its astonishing How Floyd was able to debunk every single criticism leveled against him.

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