The Mayweather handpicking myth is a lie

[maracho]

So tell me 1 guy who was a big win for Floyd who was coming off a brutal KO loss? Off the top of my head the only ones are Sharmba Mitchell (which was a tune-up fight for his first fight at 147 and Cotto who lost to Pacquiao at 145 rather than 154). I guess you could count Berto too but that isn't even one of his best 15 wins. That's 3 guys out of 31 since he has been fighting at a world class level.

Also who did he not fight that the public was seriously calling for? Unknown Bumgarito who couldn't even beat Santos and lost to every top guy he fought? Williams who lost to Quintana and got KO'd by Martinez? The public wasn't calling for those fights at all. And Floyd would've been criticized a lot more if he fought those guys instead of fighting Baldomir, DLH, Hatton, JMM, Mosley and Canelo etc. There's no great fighter of his era who was willing and didn't get the fight. Not one.

Floyd's the most skilled and dominant boxer of all time and the sad thing is people won't give him credit because he makes them jealous. However, Ali went through the same thing when he was at the top then once he retired all the haters jumped on his nuts and started acting like they were fans from day 1. Mark my words once boxing becomes a lot less entertaining the same will happen with Floyd.

Although both racists supremacists comparing Floyd to Ali is like comparing a toy poodle to a Timber wolf. I take that back, to a Dire Wolf..lol..

Floyd waited five years until Manny Pacqioau was brutally KOd.
McGregor was recently choked out, Cotto was brutally beaten down a few times, as was Berto and Ortiz , etc.. etc.. Others such as Hatton were simply on their way out

[whoelsebutjames]

You are giving Floyd excuses. I brought up these exact points several times too and Floyd fans duck the truth.

Mosley said that Floyd was not stating the truth and brought up the fact that Floyd said that he had no intentions to fight Mosley, so Mosley jumped from 135 to 147 to fight Oscar!!!!
One guy (Mosley) jumped 2 divisions to fight for the WW title while the other guy (Floyd) wanted no part of Mosley!




Even later on in his career, Mosley stated that he had just fought back to back to back fights and wanted the fight to happen a month or two later. Remember that this is a fighter (Floyd) who was ready to retire. Who would you have wanted on your resume prior to retirement? No-Name Baldomir or Shane Mosley? All Floyd had to do is have the fight a month or two later.....

and Mosley did just that. A few months after the Floyd/Baldomir fight, Mosley fought.

For years Mosley was seen wanting the fight.

Mosley fought:
prime Oscar 2X, Vernon Forrest 2X, Winky Wright 2X, Margarito, Cotto, Manny Pacquiao ...... when they were prime as well. For a Floyd fan to bring up that lame interview of Shane is pathetic and doesn't know the TRUTH!!!


NOTE: Floyd was supposedly complaining that Arum was not getting him the big fights and wanted out but on Floyd's first pick, Floyd chose no-name Baldomir over Shane Mosley!!! WOW!!!




and finally, Floyd was interviewed just before his fight against Mosley where Mosley hadn't fought in about 1.5 years and was about 39 years old.
They asked Floyd what's his game plan? Floyd responded by saying that his game plan is taking into account that rusty as nails Mosley was old.


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1. I'm not giving Floyd excuses your giving Floyd a different set of standard then you would give every other fighter. It's not ducking to refuse to move up a weightclass to fight another fighter. Is GGG ducking Ward? Is Loma ducking Mikey? If your answer is no then it explains your bias.

2.The problem with your argument is that Mosely after fight interview was recorded. The same could be turned around on you, why would Mosely say he needed to think about it once they were both in the welters??? Floyd was the man to beat at that time and everybody know it's. He then later explained his point of view in the interview which was his opinion. It doesn't mean it's facts. The video is facts.

3. Vernon was good not elite!!

Oscar already lost to Trinidad prior. Wasn't even the man at welterweight at the time . Money fight. In fact, Oscar lost every big fight after Trinidad.

Winky was a jr middleweight. The only reason this is highly regarded is because Winky was too big. Mosley wasn't even competive . But hats off to Mosely for daring to be great.

Margarito. He took the bricks off his hands before fighting him what's the accomplishment ?

Cotto at the time cottos biggest wins were Malinaggi, Quintana, and Judah.

This ain't even my point as I have nothing nothing but respect for Mosely. My point is you could pick apart anybody's resume.

[whoelsebutjames]

Although both racists supremacists comparing Floyd to Ali is like comparing a toy poodle to a Timber wolf. I take that back, to a Dire Wolf..lol..

Floyd waited five years until Manny Pacqioau was brutally KOd.
McGregor was recently choked out, Cotto was brutally beaten down a few times, as was Berto and Ortiz , etc.. etc.. Others such as Hatton were simply on their way out

The fact that you bring up McGreggor or choke-outs, in a boxing discussion is idiotic.

Hatton was undefeated. Floyd ruined him. First you blame him for fighting people with losses now you blame him for fighting undefeated people? Lol

[JK1700]

Although both racists supremacists comparing Floyd to Ali is like comparing a toy poodle to a Timber wolf. I take that back, to a Dire Wolf..lol..

Floyd waited five years until Manny Pacqioau was brutally KOd.
McGregor was recently choked out, Cotto was brutally beaten down a few times, as was Berto and Ortiz , etc.. etc.. Others such as Hatton were simply on their way out

As I stated in my previous post, Floyd tried to face Cotto and Pacquiao earlier but Bob Arum didn't want to do it because he said Cotto wasn't ready. Cotto's trainer is also on the record stating that he wasn't ready, so the fight happened at the right time and at Cotto's most comfortable weight. Floyd tried to fight Pacquiao for years dating all the way back to 2009 but Manny was too scared of needles and Bob did everything he could not to make it happen. He wanted to make a ton of money off Manny first because he knew once he fought Floyd it was game over for him.

Hatton was undefeated when he fought Floyd, LOL! You can pick holes in anyone's resume. If you're gonna do this you could say Manny fought about 10 guys who were coming off losses. Even if it's true in 3-4 cases with Floyd, there's still 25 or so top guys on his resume who were on top of their game when he fought them.

[CatchAndShoot]

You can move goal posts all you want, but there's no way you're gonna tell me he fought all the hot fighters in his resume at their aboslute best, or even near it.

You just can't argue that.

[JK1700]

He fought all the top fighters who were willing to fight him. Did he fight everyone? No because that's impossible, even Sugar Ray Robinson had guys he didn't fight, but there's nobody you can say he "ducked". Everyone who was at the top and the public demanded, he beat. Nobody else's resume in this era is even close.

[whoelsebutjames]

You can move goal posts all you want, but there's no way you're gonna tell me he fought all the hot fighters in his resume at their aboslute best, or even near it.

You just can't argue that.

Reasonable....
i can't argue that point only as I can't name any fighter in the current era who has?

The only people who are close to this are the extreme weight jumpers and they loose 90% of the time. Does that prove they great?

Hot fighters? Most of these fighters are hot for five years, Floyd was hot for nearly 15. That's why the timelines will never match up.

99% of boxers with any type of name in the game have losses. You can move the goal post but you can't change that fact. Once a guy has a loss it's easy to dismiss anybody who beats them later. There's a subjective line betweeen fighting a ruined fighter and ruining a fighter that's impossible to argue.

[whoelsebutjames]

Right after Margarito fight? WOW!!!
Well, it was actually after about 1.5 years and after Floyd was calling Mosley ..... OLD!!!


As already stated, Manny fought another TR fighter as everyone knew would have happened and would get good PPV #s and too boot, Cotto beat Mosley!!! Manny fought the winner!

Yes, but still it was right after the margarito fight which is An objective fact. Floyd calling Mosely old is a subjective opinion. Understand the difference?

Mosely loooked like a titan! A TOTAL monster in the Marg fight. People weren't calling him old then!

[maracho]

The fact that you bring up McGreggor or choke-outs, in a boxing discussion is idiotic.

Hatton was undefeated. Floyd ruined him. First you blame him for fighting people with losses now you blame him for fighting undefeated people? Lol

Lol..go watch Hatton vs Urango and Colazzo and get back to me. Lol..Floyd himself incessantly brought McGregor's chokeout by Diaz

[Squ□redCircle34]

Boxing is gonna miss Floyd, like it or not!

Of course there will always be good fights, great fights and classics but there's nothing like a polarizing, combined talent, level of skill, work ethic and controversy carrying fighter like Mayweather that gets the world to talk about boxing!