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Canelo is what he is. His best wins are Trout, Lara, old Mosley. His resume is not so bad.
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Wheres your list of all these guys he avoided,he was being sued & didn't even know who his promoter would be when ggg forced purse bid,he signed 2 fight ggg 1 yr & 3 mos after winning lineal mw title vs legit champ while ggg yet to face a single real champ. You can argue that he should've fought charlos/andrade instead of kahn/liam smith but those bums are still yet to headline a single fight,their undercard fighters & were more so a yr or 2 ago,you never hold it against your favorite fighters like mayweather fighting easier champ 4 way more $$ or avoiding fights 4 yrs,& if he'd beaten them youd still complain. And besides maybe 3 fights of his last 10 you cant say he cherrypicked at all,hes literally cleaned out the best at jmw.
floyd did the same at ww, canelo learned a lot from him.
It reminds me of the way people were dumping on wards resume & style until he kod kovalev,I was one of the only people who predicted ward by obliteration as I knew kovalev lost when he let ward into his head,& I knew Ward had a far better resume too.Last edited by kushking; 08-22-2017, 07:52 AM.Comment
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The same people on here saying Canelo didn't fight Fraud too soon are the same ones making a million and one excuses on why Gervonta Davis shouldn't be fighting Lomachenko right now.Comment
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Exactly major revisionist history going on. I remember fans screaming Canelo is ducking Kirkland, I remember fans saying he will never fight lara, I remember after Trout beat Cotto everyone saying Canelo won't fight him, I remember fans saying Chavez too big he'll never fight him and just 2-3 months ago the same bytches were saying Canelo will never fight GGG. There is always some new boogeyman and when he fights them you later claim he is a bum or easy fight and bring up another name. And nobody was a bigger fan of Oscar when he fought then me. I got into boxing a year or so before he turned pro so I saw and lived through his entire pro career and even as great as his resume was at the time fans were bytching about who he fought as well. Fans demand he fight a guy then the moment he beats them oh he's too small, oh he was too old for almost 3 years it was he don't want to fight tito, ect. I remember fans saying he won't fight Chavez, he won't fight Whitaker, he won't fight Genaro Hernandez, he won't fight John John Molina, he won't fight Quartey, he won't fight Vargas. Same shyt happening with Canelo he won't fight ____ fill in the blank and as soon as he does you rewrite history and pretend fans weren't demanding it and that the guy ******.
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If nelo fought Floyd now it would be the same result. Always an excuse....Comment
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Talk about revisionist history. Who was saying any of this about either Canelo or Oscar. The only grief Canelo got was about fighting Golovkin? It wasn't warranted but I don't know who are these people that was saying he wouldn't KIRKLAND???Exactly major revisionist history going on. I remember fans screaming Canelo is ducking Kirkland, I remember fans saying he will never fight lara, I remember after Trout beat Cotto everyone saying Canelo won't fight him, I remember fans saying Chavez too big he'll never fight him and just 2-3 months ago the same bytches were saying Canelo will never fight GGG. There is always some new boogeyman and when he fights them you later claim he is a bum or easy fight and bring up another name. And nobody was a bigger fan of Oscar when he fought then me. I got into boxing a year or so before he turned pro so I saw and lived through his entire pro career and even as great as his resume was at the time fans were bytching about who he fought as well. Fans demand he fight a guy then the moment he beats them oh he's too small, oh he was too old for almost 3 years it was he don't want to fight tito, ect. I remember fans saying he won't fight Chavez, he won't fight Whitaker, he won't fight Genaro Hernandez, he won't fight John John Molina, he won't fight Quartey, he won't fight Vargas. Same shyt happening with Canelo he won't fight ____ fill in the blank and as soon as he does you rewrite history and pretend fans weren't demanding it and that the guy ******.Comment
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Cmon man you know I don't get into that lame troll sh^t of calling boxers duckers. I don't believe in ducking so much as roads taken & not taken. You can't fight everybody is just how this sport works these days.
Again I'm not saying he isn't fighting some of the guys. I mentioned the specific guys you are mentioning now first.He has literally fought ever fighter the fans have demanded lara, trout, floyd, cotto, Chavez and is now fighting GGG at 160.
I'm saying look at what Oscar did when he was among the best guys in his division. And now look at what Oscar's fighter is doing when he's among the best guys in his division. Are you legit telling me you don't see a difference in how Oscar was moved, L or nah, & how Canelo is moved?
What am I revisioning? I think you are being wayyyyy to serious about something obvious.Revisionist history going on right now.
Oscar rode his career til the wheels fell off & now he's controlling Canelo's career like its a piece of china. I feel like Oscar is holding Canelo back. I think active fighters would fight anyone. I think their promoters are the ones reining them in more often then not these days or just have so much control that fighters, for their own reasons, just stay uninvolved.
Like I said ducking conversations are the debates the dummies here have. I don't really believe in ducking by fighters. Canelo would fight anyone. I think most fighters we talk about the most on this forum would fight anyone. I believe in avoidance by promoters or influencing their boxers career trajectory by offering more or less money for opponents they'd rather have their guy fight vs opponents they'd rather not have their guy fight & various sh^t like that.Canelo has fought everybody can't tell me he's ducking when you look at the names he's faced where those guys were ranked, what the public was calling for and he is scheduled to fight GGG.Comment
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