Comments Thread For: De La Hoya: Canelo Took Mayweather Fight Too Soon, Better for It

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  • Kcvtr81
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    #21
    Hahahahaha ffs dlh getting in the excuses early just in case McGregor lands that shot and lays Floyd out cold lol Ohhhhhh canelo was only a baby lol prick

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    • RememberTUA?
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      #22
      Originally posted by Mirus
      That's why I respect Mayweather jr even though I don't like him.
      10 years ago when I began watching him I despised him and paid to watch him lose but after a few years I realized he was special and started paying to watch his ring genius, he's truly a great boxer.

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      • Nomadic
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        #23
        I don't think time had anything to do with it. Mayweather is just in a class above Canelo on any given Saturday. It showed fight night.

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        • Motorcity Cobra
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          #24
          I remember Canelo throwing a fit and taking himself off Floyd's PPV when he didn't get your fight. Canelo was ready

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          • HarvardBlue
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            #25
            It wasn't too soon, he will never be ready for Mayweather.

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            • rrayvez
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              #26
              It's a lame excuse. At the time Canelo already had been a "World champion" for 2 and a half yrs. He faced former world champions like mosley and cintron, and beat an undefeated trout who had just beaten cotto. That was his best chance vs a much older Floyd who already showed signs of slowing vs cotto. But Canelo got nearly shut out. The end.
              Last edited by rrayvez; 08-22-2017, 07:13 AM.

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              • bigdunny1
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                #27
                Originally posted by Aware
                If you're not ready on your 44th fight, you are never ready. Canelo was 23, Tyson was 20 when he won a title.
                You are ****** Mike Tyson, CONTRARY TO POPULAR BELIEF, had a highly decorated and spectacular amateur career before turning pro!!! And didn't fight anyone the caliber of Floyd at that age. Canelo had virtually no amateur career skipping all that turning pro at 15. His first 35 fights were low level opponents in Mexico as he learned to fight on the job while other kids learned to fight in amateurs. He didn't move to the US and start fighters anyone heard of until 2010, that's when his real pro career started 3 years later he fought the best p4p fighter in the world and greatest fighter of this generation. Holyfield was the top ranked heavyweight when Tyson became the true champ and Tyson flat out ducked him. Waited until he was 30 and out of jail and got smashed when he faced hoylfield and later Lewis the best fighters of his era.

                Quoting canelos pro record and ignoring how young he was, that he didn't have an amateur career and that in Mexico he fought cab drivers for the first 30+ fights is just ******. Canelo was green as phuk when he fought Floyd in age and world class experience.
                Last edited by bigdunny1; 08-22-2017, 06:20 AM.

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                • Eff Pandas
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                  #28
                  Oscar gots perverse logic with "the right time". The right time = my guy wins. The wrong time = my guy loses. Thats not the way one should look at it.

                  The funny think about Oscar is that he's seemingly forgotten what made him so popular. He fought challenging guys, notable guys on the come up & when he got to the world class level around 23yrs old he kept fighting top guys, almost every time out, til he ended his career.

                  '95 (23yrs) John John Molina (36-3), Rafael Ruelas (43-1), Genaro Hernandez (32-0-1) & James Leija (30-1-2)
                  '96 (24yrs) JC Chavez I (96-1-1)
                  '97 (25yrs) Miguel Gonzalez (41-0), Sweet Pea Whitaker (40-1-1) & Wilfredo Rivera (27-2-1)
                  '98 (26yrs) JC Chavez II (100-2-2)
                  '99 (27yrs) Ike Quartey (34-0-1) & Tito Trinidad (35-0)
                  '00 (28yrs) Shane Mosley I (34-0)
                  '01 (29yrs) Javier Castillejo (51-4)
                  '02 (30yrs) Fernando Vargas (22-1)
                  '03 (31yrs) Shane Mosley II (38-2)
                  '04 (32yrs) Bernard Hopkins (44-2-1)
                  '06 (34yrs) Ricardo Mayorga (27-5-1)
                  '07 (35yrs) Floyd Mayweather (37-0)
                  '08 (36yrs) Manny Pacquiao (47-3-2)

                  Meanwhile here's Canelo meaningful wins. Feels much more lackluster than what Oscar had done at 27 right? And the names & records look a lot less appealing right? Granted some of this you got lil control over cuz you live in the time you live in, but if anything that should mean they make more of an effort to make the meaningful fights more often

                  '12 (22yrs) Shane Mosley (46-7-1) & Josesito Lopez (30-4)
                  '13 (23yrs) Austin Trout (26-0) & Floyd Mayweather (44-0)
                  '14 (24yrs) Erislandy Lara (19-1-2)
                  '15 (25yrs) Miguel Cotto (40-4)
                  '16 (26yrs) Amir Khan (31-3)
                  '17 (27yrs) Gennady Golovkin (37-0)

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                    #29
                    He definitely fought Mayweather too soon, but this fight is at the right time with GGG. If GGG loses this fight then am blaming his team 100%.

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                    • bigdunny1
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                      Oscar gots perverse logic with "the right time". The right time = my guy wins. The wrong time = my guy loses. Thats not the way one should look at it.

                      The funny think about Oscar is that he's seemingly forgotten what made him so popular. He fought challenging guys, notable guys on the come up & when he got to the world class level around 23yrs old he kept fighting top guys, almost every time out, til he ended his career.

                      '95 (23yrs) John John Molina (36-3), Rafael Ruelas (43-1), Genaro Hernandez (32-0-1) & James Leija (30-1-2)
                      '96 (24yrs) JC Chavez I (96-1-1)
                      '97 (25yrs) Miguel Gonzalez (41-0), Sweet Pea Whitaker (40-1-1) & Wilfredo Rivera (27-2-1)
                      '98 (26yrs) JC Chavez II (100-2-2)
                      '99 (27yrs) Ike Quartey (34-0-1) & Tito Trinidad (35-0)
                      '00 (28yrs) Shane Mosley I (34-0)
                      '01 (29yrs) Javier Castillejo (51-4)
                      '02 (30yrs) Fernando Vargas (22-1)
                      '03 (31yrs) Shane Mosley II (38-2)
                      '04 (32yrs) Bernard Hopkins (44-2-1)
                      '06 (34yrs) Ricardo Mayorga (27-5-1)
                      '07 (35yrs) Floyd Mayweather (37-0)
                      '08 (36yrs) Manny Pacquiao (47-3-2)

                      Meanwhile here's Canelo meaningful wins. Feels much more lackluster than what Oscar had done at 27 right? And the names & records look a lot less appealing right? Granted some of this you got lil control over cuz you live in the time you live in, but if anything that should mean they make more of an effort to make the meaningful fights more often

                      '12 (22yrs) Shane Mosley (46-7-1) & Josesito Lopez (30-4)
                      '13 (23yrs) Austin Trout (26-0) & Floyd Mayweather (44-0)
                      '14 (24yrs) Erislandy Lara (19-1-2)
                      '15 (25yrs) Miguel Cotto (40-4)
                      '16 (26yrs) Amir Khan (31-3)
                      '17 (27yrs) Gennady Golovkin (37-0)
                      Oscar fought top guys in his early 20s but unlike Canelo Oscar was one of the greatest amateur fighters ever and competed in the oympics winning gold before turning pro. Come on you better then this you know Oscar amateur career and you know Canelo didn't have one it explains why Oscar was ready at such a young age and still Oscar didn't fight top p4p fighters until he was 25, Canelo fought the best p4p at 23 with no comparable amateur experience.
                      Last edited by bigdunny1; 08-22-2017, 06:26 AM.

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