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  • New England
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    #41
    Originally posted by Eff Pandas
    Yea if Conor gets hurt in this fight or worse case dies or something completely effed up happens boxing & the NSAC got some serous questions to answer. I'm surprised they haven't taken that into account more with some of these decisions they've made.

    Something bad in this fight could drastically alter some rules & requirements of boxings & officials.


    i'm sure there was an off the record converstaion, maybe even inclyuding or going indirectlyt to all parties, about the risk of sanctioning the fight, and the need for things to go smoothly. mcgregor's people should be, and probbly will be quick to throw the towel. floyd's not really an ass kicker anyway, so there's not a tonto worry about.

    if connor eats big shots and finds a second wind [he's not an experienced boxer, but he is a world class athlete and in shape like a guy who trains for a living and is probably on performance enhancers,] and startts to wander around eating punishment he may be seriously hurt. but that's not all that likely. i don't think he has the survival skills to go 12 if he's getting beat up.


    i actually wouldn't be surprised if he goes 12 and the fight simply resembles a sparring session.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Eff Pandas
      Didn't Joey Gamache sue a commission over the Arturo Gatti fight where he got effed up? I'm thinking he sued or tried to sue someone.
      yes, but that was a weight related issue. Joey felt the commission didn't protect him, which , given the circumstances at the weigh in, is fair.

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        #43
        Originally posted by New England
        i'm sure there was an off the record converstaion, maybe even inclyuding or going indirectlyt to all parties, about the risk of sanctioning the fight, and the need for things to go smoothly. mcgregor's people should be, and probbly will be quick to throw the towel. floyd's not really an ass kicker anyway, so there's not a tonto worry about.

        if connor eats big shots and finds a second wind [he's not an experienced boxer, but he is a world class athlete and in shape like a guy who trains for a living and is probably on performance enhancers,] and startts to wander around eating punishment he may be seriously hurt. but that's not all that likely. i don't think he has the survival skills to go 12 if he's getting beat up.


        i actually wouldn't be surprised if he goes 12 and the fight simply resembles a sparring session.
        Yea like I said I'm not predicting a death in the ring or anything. I'm just saying due to the perception of this fight being a mismatch if something awful did happen the NSAC will be up sh^ts creek without a paddle for okaying a fight with a 49-0 guy vs a 0-0 guy & reducing the gloves weight.

        Hell even making this fight 12 rounds (36mins) for a pro debut is ******ed when Conor has barely been past the 10 minute mark in his own sport & he's only been the championship distance in MMA once (5 rounds/25mins) & he was gassed out in the 3rd & 5th round in that fight.

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          #44
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          The same NSAC approved 25-3 Ramirez against 0-0 Lomachenko. Should that fight have been sanctioned given the records?

          NSAc had no choice given the amount of money this thing looks to be generating.
          Your really not going to try and compare lomachenkos skills to Connors are you, lomachenko won 2 gold medals and 2 world championships in BOXING, tell me what Connors honours in boxing are you idiot, since when has the commission been in place to sanction big money fights, their job is supposedly to keep sports like these as safe as possible
          Last edited by Shape up; 08-21-2017, 03:47 PM.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Shape up
            tell me what Connors honours in boxing
            LOL he won the Dublin novice championships 12ish years ago.

            Bernstein mentioned he had 40 amateur fights as a kid on a podcast I listened to last week (I was under the impression he had zero amateur fights til then), but he quit boxing before he got to the open division so its been 11ish years since he boxed as an amateur.

            But yea HUGE difference between a novice division city title & an Olympic gold medal.

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              #46
              As with everything bad that happens in boxing, the media will ask questions or raise issues but not much would actually happen as a result of that. What would even change anyway? Maybe official limitations on who an 0-0 guy can face, which could make it harder for the next MMA star to try and jump straight into a high-level boxing match. But by then everyone has made their money and walked off laughing at the public ******ity.

              I have to admit, I'm not sure I care that much. Anyone who feels ripped off afterwards only has themselves to blame. Yeah the fight is a joke, but I don't think it should be stopped from happening. Maybe they should be going for less rounds because a mismatch should at least be shorter. But McGregor's team probably think they have a better chance if they can tire the older guy out, maybe would've complained and *****ed about how it was unfair to be forced into having an 8 round fight, and that would've annoyed me more than I'd like tbh.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Clegg
                As with everything bad that happens in boxing, the media will ask questions or raise issues but not much would actually happen as a result of that. What would even change anyway?
                LOL some of you guys don't even know your boxing history.

                Supposedly the change from 15 rounds to 12 rounds was to limit serious injuries to fighters. Although I still believe it was a TV ad thing, but whatever thats what they claimed.

                Michael Watson gots UK boxers sitting by each other outside the ring after a fight like two lil best friends all close together & don't let a ton of people in the ring in the immediate aftermath of a bout.

                The Magomad thing got a bump in the insurance in NY thats made it virtually impossible to put on a club show there now.

                And I'm sure the smarter cats then I can come up with other changes that have been made off the top of their head beyond mine.

                What actually would change if a guy was severely injured or died in the biggest revenue generating fight of all time, which most feel is a mismatch, is up for debate but to think it'd have no impact on boxing is naive about how big of a thing this would be if it were to occur.

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                  #48
                  He gets kicked and elbowed for a living...he will be fine

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                    #49
                    McGregor will feel his hands getting tired just in the 5th round.
                    Especially when he fails to land his shots. He'll probably think of kicking Mayweahter's face out of frustration. He'll start cursing on the imposed limitations. Sparring sessions are vastly different from real fights.
                    This is no laughing matter.
                    Just look at the recent Indongo vs Crawford.
                    Both are real boxers.
                    Not easy to hit a more skillful fighter.
                    Indongo lasted 3 rounds.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                      LOL some of you guys don't even know your boxing history.

                      Supposedly the change from 15 rounds to 12 rounds was to limit serious injuries to fighters. Although I still believe it was a TV ad thing, but whatever thats what they claimed.

                      Michael Watson gots UK boxers sitting by each other outside the ring after a fight like two lil best friends all close together & don't let a ton of people in the ring in the immediate aftermath of a bout.

                      The Magomad thing got a bump in the insurance in NY thats made it virtually impossible to put on a club show there now.

                      And I'm sure the smarter cats then I can come up with other changes that have been made off the top of their head beyond mine.

                      What actually would change if a guy was severely injured or died in the biggest revenue generating fight of all time, which most feel is a mismatch, is up for debate but to think it'd have no impact on boxing is naive about how big of a thing this would be if it were to occur.
                      The OP asked what would happen if it's a beatdown or an uncomfortable KO, and I answered. You and others might have gone into the death/serious injury talk but I wasn't replying to that.

                      Maybe I should've phrased it differently, I'm not saying literally no rule changes have occurred in boxing history, I'm saying media/public outcry over bad matchups don't result in changes and if this fight is embarrassingly one-sided the most I see happening is limitations on who an 0-0 guy can face.

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