Should NSAC be held accountable...

[LockardTheGOAT]

That doesn't matter. If something bad happens people will connect dots that may or may not make sense. Its a bad look & there are bread crumbs leading to a bunch of mfers that favored money over safety with this fight & that'll be problem for the NSAC if something bad happens to Conor (or hell even Floyd with the switch to the 8oz gloves for no real reason like I just brought up).

Doesn't sound like anything the NSAC can't logically counter/answer, though.

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

Of course NSAC gonna be under heavy fire and scrutinize. Everything they as far as approve the gloves, sanctioned the bout goes against everything they have done in the past, They have denied professional boxers the right to fight on teh ground of it being a mismatch in the past, they have never approved a glove request to lower the glove size in the past and when you have professionals in the sport like a jeff mayweather saying this fight should have absolutely never been sanctioned but Money Talks is the reason it was than you know this bout should have been a no go.

My opinion is this fight will be laced in controversy for the fact that the doctors and reg are gonna be under strict instruction to stop it at the fight sign of "damage or trouble" on Conor behalf reason being this fight was only approved cause MONEY TALKS so NSAC knows their is a huge possiblility that conor can end up seriously hurt if they do not specifically place those guidelines on the officials that night.

[Eff Pandas]

Doesn't sound like anything the NSAC can't logically counter/answer, though.

Good luck with that when Conor is dead or brain dead. The negative media will alter how the NSAC works moving forward & will negatively effect boxing & maybe combat sports in general.

For sure that Benton guy will be forced to step down. And probably a couple others to with some of the things said that could be taken wrongly during the 8oz gloves assessment.

[iamboxing]

I hope he does hurt him (not permanently) so UFC jocks finally shut the **** up.

[Eff Pandas]

Sure, some questions would be asked and they wouldl take some heat but it wouldn't change a thing. \

Idk. Remember Conor is the biggest active draw in combat sports right now. If the guy who's the biggest draw in combat sports had his career & maybe his life ended in a fight things are for sure gonna change. Its gonna get attention & its gonna get mainstream attention. This isn't Gerald McClellan getting effed up who's a hardcore fan favorite. This would be a huge entity in combat sports. Idk that thats something thats really happened before that I can recall.

Just like I've said in the past the PED stuff will get more serious if someone dies & the other guy pisses dirty if a huge name in sports gets f#cked up in the ring it'll bring some changes & some heads will get chopped off.

[The Big Dunn]

I think thats more debatable as Loma had a wealth of amateur experience + 2 gold medals. Same sorta situation with Floyd Patterson vs Peter Radamacher back in the day. The RJJ vs MMA guy of a year or so ago would be much much more questionable as I don't believe that guy had any recent amateur boxing experience & was a pretty sh^t MMA fighter at that with a 6-3 record in a bs mma league.

Idk if there is an exact science to it, but I'd suggest anyone without any recent amateur experience probably shouldn't be fighting any top 50, top 100 boxer in his pro debut.

And I can see an argument that suggests anyone whatever their level of amateur success shouldn't have been fighting Floyd Patterson or the guy Loma turned pro against.



Idk about this. I mean thats clearly whats driving the car right now, but its not like they couldn't kill it in its tracks if they had wanted to. I mean if Donald Trump was trying to fight Anthony Joshua I think there'd be solid money to go check that out too, but they'd need a pretty high level of no f#cks given for the safety of NSAC licensed boxers to allow that fight to go down.

Eff P, the extreme example you gave is ludicrous. If this were any MMA v Boxing guy that could make this amount of money, NSAC would sanction it, even though there are some MMA and boxing matches they wouldn't sanction.

The bottom line is some people, I think the TS is one, are really just mad this an event of the magnitude it is. His real beef is this is an event that is bigger than almost every other boxing match that could be made. Instead of just saying that, because it looks petty and childish, he is trying to find a "smart" or "boxing" criticism of this fight.

At some point posters need to accept the fact that just because they dislike something, doesn't mean everyone does or that their own opinion is the majority opinion. It's fine to criticize this but just be honest in your criticism, no matter how small it makes you look.

NSAC will have no blood on their hands if someone gets hurt.

[kafkod]

Suspect?!?!? Suspect for being straight up about the situation?

When guys get hurt yea people question the commission. The NYSAC got a sh^t storm over that Magomed fight. And that was a evenly matched fight between two prospects.

This is a guy who's 49-0 vs a guy without a professional fight. This shouldn't be a sanctioned fight if we are all being honest & thats the truth regardless if anyone is trying to play an angle.

People keep saying if this happens or that happens then boxing looks bad & blah blah blah. And I disagree. If Floyd loses, then we got a new player in boxing who's not gonna be done with boxing. If what we expect happens happens, but not only does Conor lose, but he gets severely injured or dies than boxing has a huge sh^t storm for sanctioning a fight we all know shouldn't of been sanctioned. It'll bring people saying how dangerous boxing is & how it should be illegal & it'll bring a ton of negative press on boxing & this great year boxing has had will get turned to sh^t.

NSAC didn't take the decision to sanction this fight lightly doe.

They studied video footage of Conor doing ok in stand-up exchanges with Nate Diaz, and Diaz spars with boxers, including Andre Ward. If it hadn't been for that, there's no way NSAC would have sanctioned it.

[Eff Pandas]

Eff P, the extreme example you gave is ludicrous. If this were any MMA v Boxing guy that could make this amount of money, NSAC would sanction it, even though there are some MMA and boxing matches they wouldn't sanction.

Well like I said I understand the follow the money logic & I'm with you, but there clearly is a line. I just made an easy line to draw. I imagine the line is much closer to what we are seeing & not Joshua vs Trump.

The bottom line is some people, I think the TS is one, are really just mad this an event of the magnitude it is. His real beef is this is an event that is bigger than almost every other boxing match that could be made. Instead of just saying that, because it looks petty and childish, he is trying to find a "smart" or "boxing" criticism of this fight.

Thats probably true, but that doesn't mean there isn't a legit topic here beyond the TS likely bias against the fight.

At some point posters need to accept the fact that just because they dislike something, doesn't mean everyone does or that their own opinion is the majority opinion. It's fine to criticize this but just be honest in your criticism, no matter how small it makes you look.

NSAC will have no blood on their hands if someone gets hurt.

Couldn't disagree more with you here. Thinking about money is all good til someone gets hurt. If Conor gets severely hurt or killed this is a Real Sports episode talking about the corruption of the NSAC + Floyd's influence with them that likely helped led to some of these decisions getting made.

Idk if 60 minutes is around still but they'll be doing a story. This is a 30 for 30 story in a couple years. All the papers will be talking about. Everyones Youtube channel will be talking about it. People will be talking about banning boxing & 2017 will end up being a L for boxing in spite of all the good fights this year.

This is a tragedy that could've been prevented if something bad happens this weekend all cuz money influenced the people who are supposed to be concerned about safety.

[Eff Pandas]

NSAC didn't take the decision to sanction this fight lightly doe.

They studied video footage of Conor doing ok in stand-up exchanges with Nate Diaz, and Diaz spars with boxers, including Andre Ward. If it hadn't been for that, there's no way NSAC would have sanctioned it.

Yea thats nuts lol.

They must think Ward is the most dangerous guy in boxing cuz they turned down Ward's opponent last year or whenever vs a abc ranked guy, but they allow a pro debuting guy off of the logic a guy he fought has sparred with Ward.

[The Big Dunn]

Well like I said I understand the follow the money logic & I'm with you, but there clearly is a line. I just made an easy line to draw. I imagine the line is much closer to what we are seeing & not Joshua vs Trump.



Thats probably true, but that doesn't mean there isn't a legit topic here beyond the TS likely bias against the fight.



Couldn't disagree more with you here. Thinking about money is all good til someone gets hurt. If Conor gets severely hurt or killed this is a Real Sports episode talking about the corruption of the NSAC + Floyd's influence with them that likely helped led to some of these decisions getting made.

Idk if 60 minutes is around still but they'll be doing a story. This is a 30 for 30 story in a couple years. All the papers will be talking about. Everyones Youtube channel will be talking about it. People will be talking about banning boxing & 2017 will end up being a L for boxing in spite of all the good fights this year.

This is a tragedy that could've been prevented if something bad happens this weekend all cuz money influenced the people who are supposed to be concerned about safety.

Floyd's influence?? Due, come on. The people that pressured NSAC were the hotel owners, sportsbooks, and local businesses that stand to make their biggest paydays this week. Yes, Al, Dana, Floyd and Conor and their reps put pressure, but the money is talking.

Conor may be at a disadvantage but he surely isn't helpless. Also, and lets not kid ourselves, the more brutal and violent it is the better for future events.

Vegas just sanctioned Canelo v Kahn, which, if we are being honest, was far more likely to produce a "bad " ending (your words) as this fight despite Khan being a pro.