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  • Eff Pandas
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    #31
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    Floyd's influence?? Due, come on. The people that pressured NSAC were the hotel owners, sportsbooks, and local businesses that stand to make their biggest paydays this week. Yes, Al, Dana, Floyd and Conor and their reps put pressure, but the money is talking.
    Well yea I'm not saying there aren't a bunch of influences, but you know Floyd will get thrown to the wolves with his rep of getting away with things with the NSAC. And if there is any smoke with any one thing that'll be a big part of the story.

    Conor may be at a disadvantage but he surely isn't helpless. Also, and lets not kid ourselves, the more brutal and violent it is the better for future events.

    Vegas just sanctioned Canelo v Kahn, which, if we are being honest, was far more likely to produce a "bad " ending (your words) as this fight despite Khan being a pro.
    It doesn't matter if you are helpless or not. People get severely hurt & killed from time to time in this sport. I'd have never picked McClellan or Magomed to become what they are now as both were strong, destructive guys themselves previous to their injuries in the ring. I'd even argue what could help get guys severely injured is there toughness & unwillingness to quit despite things their bodies are telling them well before the severe injury perhaps.

    What leads to it can be debatable often times & maybe the real answer is never really known, but just like corners, doctors, refs or even the fighter themselves get blamed in this case the judgement will be clear on who's the guilty party since we got the best fighter of this era fighting a guy who's never had a professional boxing match.

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    • Lester Tutor
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      #32
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      Vegas just sanctioned Canelo v Kahn, which, if we are being honest, was far more likely to produce a "bad " ending (your words) as this fight despite Khan being a pro.
      Same thing with Hearn for Brook vs GGG, so you'd think the Nicky Blackwell incident would've bothered Matchroom mgmt in not wanting their Welter against a 160 beast..and Hearn had John Ryder on the sidelines.

      People are hypocrites. Why in the last week are people bringing up this subject now ffs. In the last 2 months we went from Jokes, to loving the press conference, ,to hopeful massacre by McGregor, to now worrying about the NSAC...

      People would not have said shït if Floyd stepped into the Octagon...

      Again... "I run boxing." Maybe the USA can do a 20/20 Or 60minutes interview with Conor wearing a neck brace while they pose the question in front of millions of viewers, "Conor, you consider yourself a top combat athlete as shown, what do you mean by 'I run Boxing?"

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      • LockardTheGOAT
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        #33
        Originally posted by Eff Pandas
        Good luck with that when Conor is dead or brain dead. The negative media will alter how the NSAC works moving forward & will negatively effect boxing & maybe combat sports in general.

        For sure that Benton guy will be forced to step down. And probably a couple others to with some of the things said that could be taken wrongly during the 8oz gloves assessment.
        Good lord, Conor is not gonna end up dead or brain dead. It is f'n ****** to even think that has a realistic chance of happening.

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        • The Big Dunn
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          #34
          Originally posted by Eff Pandas
          Well yea I'm not saying there aren't a bunch of influences, but you know Floyd will get thrown to the wolves with his rep of getting away with things with the NSAC. And if there is any smoke with any one thing that'll be a big part of the story.



          It doesn't matter if you are helpless or not. People get severely hurt & killed from time to time in this sport. I'd have never picked McClellan or Magomed to become what they are now as both were strong, destructive guys themselves previous to their injuries in the ring. I'd even argue what could help get guys severely injured is there toughness & unwillingness to quit despite things their bodies are telling them well before the severe injury perhaps.

          What leads to it can be debatable often times & maybe the real answer is never really known, but just like corners, doctors, refs or even the fighter themselves get blamed in this case the judgement will be clear on who's the guilty party since we got the best fighter of this era fighting a guy who's never had a professional boxing match.
          Agree on injuries. My point is that NSAC has always sanctioned matches like Canelo v Kahn, in both MMA and boxing, where the likelihood of a brutal beatdown is significantly greater than it is with Floyd/Conor but most posters didn't say the same thing.

          The thing is-lets be real-is posters only bring up this in certain situations. They killed Garcia v Salka, but said nothing with Canelo/Khan or GGG/Brook etc, etc. Their real issue is something else completely.

          I understand your point but I disagree.

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          • rickJen
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            #35
            They should have been sued when they approved fights like Garcia vs Salka, Quillin vs Zerafa, etc.
            This is no different. Possibly worse.

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            • Eff Pandas
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              #36
              Originally posted by LockardTheGOAT
              Good lord, Conor is not gonna end up dead or brain dead. It is f'n ****** to even think that has a realistic chance of happening.
              Its boxing. Thats always a possibility.

              I didn't say its 100% happening. I didn't say its likely. I said its possible & if it happens the NSAC is f#cked cuz they sanctioned a mismatch fight & even got less then the normal oz gloves okay'd.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Mirko Troll Cop
                Same thing with Hearn for Brook vs GGG, so you'd think the Nicky Blackwell incident would've bothered Matchroom mgmt in not wanting their Welter against a 160 beast..and Hearn had John Ryder on the sidelines.

                People are hypocrites. Why in the last week are people bringing up this subject now ffs. In the last 2 months we went from Jokes, to loving the press conference, ,to hopeful massacre by McGregor, to now worrying about the NSAC...

                People would not have said shït if Floyd stepped into the Octagon...

                Again... "I run boxing." Maybe the USA can do a 20/20 Or 60minutes interview with Conor wearing a neck brace while they pose the question in front of millions of viewers, "Conor, you consider yourself a top combat athlete as shown, what do you mean by 'I run Boxing?"
                Eff P is at least genuine with his concern. So many others are so phony.

                I get it if you hate this event. I get it if you criticize it. However, if you supported Canelo/Kahn, garcia/Salka, GGG/brook or any fight that Gabe Rosado has participated in the last 3 years but now you are bringing up health and safety issues then IMO you are full of crap.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by genrick
                  They should have been sued when they approved fights like Garcia vs Salka, Quillin vs Zerafa, etc.
                  This is no different. Possibly worse.
                  Didn't Joey Gamache sue a commission over the Arturo Gatti fight where he got effed up? I'm thinking he sued or tried to sue someone.

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                  • Pac=Duran
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                    Suspect?!?!? Suspect for being straight up about the situation?

                    When guys get hurt yea people question the commission. The NYSAC got a sh^t storm over that Magomed fight. And that was a evenly matched fight between two prospects.

                    This is a guy who's 49-0 vs a guy without a professional fight. This shouldn't be a sanctioned fight if we are all being honest & thats the truth regardless if anyone is trying to play an angle.

                    People keep saying if this happens or that happens then boxing looks bad & blah blah blah. And I disagree. If Floyd loses, then we got a new player in boxing who's not gonna be done with boxing. If what we expect happens happens, but not only does Conor lose, but he gets severely injured or dies than boxing has a huge sh^t storm for sanctioning a fight we all know shouldn't of been sanctioned. It'll bring people saying how dangerous boxing is & how it should be illegal & it'll bring a ton of negative press on boxing & this great year boxing has had will get turned to sh^t.
                    I agree, this is an absolute disgrace of a fight. How can they sanction this?

                    McGregor could be seriously injured.

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                    • BrometheusBob.
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by kafkod
                      NSAC didn't take the decision to sanction this fight lightly doe.

                      They studied video footage of Conor doing ok in stand-up exchanges with Nate Diaz, and Diaz spars with boxers, including Andre Ward. If it hadn't been for that, there's no way NSAC would have sanctioned it.

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