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  • Tony Trick-Pony
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    #41
    Originally posted by lolpz
    You don't need to fight against elite opponents for the people who know what they're watching to spot an elite fighter.

    Elite fighters do not fight each other in this day and age and we're trying to change that.

    Rigo could have fought 20 cab drivers in his pro career and anyone who knows what they're watching will know and be able to point out that he's an elite fighter.
    I definitely agree with this.

    Showcase fights are knocked a lot because they're one sided but when you have an elite talent in the ring, they're fun to watch.

    The real talented is easy to spot by the skills they display in the ring against anybody.

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    • Madison Boxing
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      #42
      Originally posted by McNulty
      He's beaten everyone in front of him with zero question and no close fights. Destroyed Donaire who was hot as fcuk.

      Nobody can beat him, thats why he's rated so highly.
      no close fights? 114-113 is pretty close against donaire. Hows that destroyed?

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        #43
        Originally posted by 1g5a22
        Or maybe it is simply that Donaire was never as good as some would have u believe? But Rigo ruined him doe.. Tiny Rigo with his huge power ruined him doe.. He did doe
        yeah, as i said in original post i dont understand why its made out on here to be some one sided whooping. the score cards were very very close and rigo got dropped. walters did a better job on donaire than rigo did.

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        • BoxingIsGreat
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          #44
          Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
          GGG didn't have the talent pool to choose opponents from. Rigo has a lot of talent to choose from yet hasn't had a big win since beating an over-hyped Donaire.
          The TS said, if a fighter wanted a big fight badly enough, he could get it. (I'm paraphrasing.) Well, the talent pool was great/semi-great at middleweight and super middleweight (Martinez (in prime), Cotto, Canelo, Sturm, Abraham, Ward, Froch, etc.). Ducking or any other excuses won't work here, since the TS did not qualify that statement.

          Rigo is now at 122 lbs and 36 years old. Where's the great competition? If you say Loma at 130, fine. But, then, maybe Loma could call out Crawford at 140.

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          • lolpz
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            #45
            There's no doubting who's actually elite when you're talking about guys like Rigo and Loma. The only actual debate is who would win IF both elite fighters were to be matched against each other.

            For whoever is to lose the fight, it doesn't take their "elite" status away. It's simply an elite fighter losing to another elite fighter.

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              #46
              Originally posted by DramaShow
              no close fights? 114-113 is pretty close against donaire. Hows that destroyed?
              You've prob never even seen that fight

              You thought O'Hara Davies was a superstar and had all the tools. Why would anyone listen to you. You don't know wtf you're watching

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                #47
                Originally posted by John Locke
                Interesting choice of words. You pick him to beat Ward, but he's a prospect? If he can beat a top 5 P4P fighter, why is he not a top P4P fighter?

                People rate Rigo based on skill, you do the same with other fighters.
                its my hunch hes going to be a top fighter, hes not proven hes elite, im not going around saying beterbiev should be on pound for pound list or that hes proven hes the goods. But we arent talking about beterbiev, my point is that i wouldnt have someone on a p4p list for 1 good win, albeit very close win, in there career that happened 4 years ago. I wouldnt be so sure they are that elite and i wouldnt be so sure that they have the astronomical talent level that people seem to be so sure that they possess. Some of you in this thread seem outraged that ive doubted rigondeaux, the guys 36 and not fought a live body in years. In fact hes only ever fought one live body and he squeaked past him and got dropped.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by GriffTannen
                  You've prob never even seen that fight

                  You thought O'Hara Davies was a superstar and had all the tools. Why would anyone listen to you. You don't know wtf you're watching
                  yeah i watched it live. it was a close fight, as the scorecards and the media cards suggest. A lot of you arent answering the question, just slinging mud ' oh ggg is ****' 'u like beterbiev' 'youre an idiot', why dont you actually try provide a reason as to why you are convinced he is a top, elite fighter despite not doing **** in 4 years?

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                  • rickJen
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                    #49
                    Davis vs Rigondeux in November.
                    Jim Grey better make sure he ask Gervontae about Rigo in the post fight interview.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
                      The TS said, if a fighter wanted a big fight badly enough, he could get it. (I'm paraphrasing.) Well, the talent pool was great/semi-great at middleweight and super middleweight (Martinez (in prime), Cotto, Canelo, Sturm, Abraham, Ward, Froch, etc.). Ducking or any other excuses won't work here, since the TS did not qualify that statement.

                      Rigo is now at 122 lbs and 36 years old. Where's the great competition? If you say Loma at 130, fine. But, then, maybe Loma could call out Crawford at 140.
                      Cotto ducked GGG at 160, said he wasn't a true MW while holding the titles.

                      Froch? He retired and was a SMW.

                      Ward never made a true effort to make a fight with GGG. Not at 160 and not at the alleged 165 catch weight.

                      Abraham and Sturm? How are they better than Jacobs, Brook and Lemieux?

                      GGG is fighting a prime Canelo next month.

                      Rigo could have tried to make fights with Carl Frampton, Leo Santa Cruz, Scott Quigg, Gary Russell Jr., Nicholas Walters, Jhonny Gonzalez, Arce, JuanMa, and several others. Check Loma's resume in just ten fights versus Rigo in 18 fights. Mystery solved.

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