Name 1 prime ATG that de la Hoya beat

[bigdunny1]

I would quote roger Mayweather...

all ill say is that I care less if Oscar landed 100,000 more punches than tito. boxing is scored by rounds. total punches landed from compubox(not even going to get into its reliability) is a simple gimmick to give commentators things to talk about. Interesting yes. relevant no.

1. Oscar barely threw a punch the last 4 rounds. Mind you this included the championship rounds in the "fight of the millennium". (Oscar scammed us again). an unwritten rule is your must take the champions belt. Sorry he didn't take a damn thing. .

2. I wont even get into consideration of 10-8 rounds for running and not throwing a punch. But for Oscar to have gotten "robbed" (lol btw) it would mean that he literally swept undisputedly all 1-8. Sorry that's not the fight I saw.

It fair to say tito lost a close fight, which I would respect. But to say Oscar was robbed...well roger Mayweather comes to mind.

Oscar didn't run to secure a win from "bad advise". Oscar was dead tired from his strategy. HIs strategy was clear. Avoid titos power. Stay on the out side, jump in and flurry and jump right back out. do this 3 times a round. Naturally its very exhausting. after eight he was spent. If he could have kept it up he would have. BUt he knew he would slow and tito would have have caught him, spelling goodnight. So once he ran out of gas he stayed away. simple as that.

He said he gave tito a boxing lesson. But failed to remember that championship fights are 12 rounds not eight and didn't strategize accordingly. Actually it was a very good strategy to insure he didn't get ktfo. We all know that would have happened if Oscar fought any other way than the way he did...

peace I'm out before the don't knows chime in see sig.

you show me the 7 rounds tito won to deserve the win. I'll wait. Even if you give him the last 4 rounds you still have to give him 3 more rounds for him to win the fight. So go ahead tell me what rounds they were. Oscar was pitching a shut out and the compubox numbers prove it. Compubox can be misleading if one guy racked up a lot of punches in 1 round by a larger margin while being slightly outlanded in the next 5 it skews the total at the end of the fight in rounds he lost. Or the one guy was landing more power shots that did more damage while the other guy was landing jabs. None of these factors apply to this fight. Oscar swept all compubox numbers landed more overall, more power shots, and more round by round by a HUGE margin. And Oscar did all the damage busted up Tito's nose and his trunks were soaked from his own blood. But forget that go ahead tell me the rounds you gave tito to justify his win? Don't give me some generic BS about why compubox is not always accurate. Before Oscar go on his bike he was doubling tito up in every stat and busted up Tito nose. This fight played out very similar to Thurman vs Danny Garcia where Thurman after building a big enough lead got on his bike in the championship rounds to not give Garcia a chance to land a miracle shot. The difference is that fight was scored correctly. One of the judges had Oscar/Tito DEAD even after 8 rounds. This was a Don King paid off special. 1 round max I gave him after 8. 2 is stretching it. When you have judges giving tito 3 and 4 rounds after 8 when he is getting schooled, completely confused and busted up and the other guy after 8 rounds is on track to land 300 punches?

Thurman was schooling Danny Garcia and he ONLY landed 147 punches the ENTIRE fight. Oscar landed 196 to Tito 98 AFTER 8 rounds. So you telling me this is misleading because Oscar doubling Tito up but really it was 1 round big round where he landed 100 more punches then tito but the other 7 rounds were all close LMAO

[bigdunny1]

Whitaker was nowhere near the end of his career. He was the number one welterweight on the planet.

Edit: I should say, nowhere near the end before that fight but a combination of Oscar winning and all the drugs led to a sharp decline in a very short period after that fight.

This fight had 2 of the top 3 P4P best fighters in the world facing off. Nobody called Whitaker shot heading into this fight. And his issues with coke were his fight AFTER this. Tested positive after that fight then suspended then retired then came back out of retirement. Was never the same after. But it's revisionist history to say he was washed up when the fight was signed Whitaker was 32 years old and #1 P4P in the world. His personal life fell apart the years after this fight and why he so sharply was done in boxing.

[djtmal]

he gets my respect for outpointing pernell whitaker on the scorecards, a bonafide all-time great....

[IronDanHamza]

JCC and Whitaker.

That was easy.

Oscar fought everyone in their prime. pathetic to try and hate on his resume imo.

Neither were prime.

[Santa_]

Tito and Mosley rematch.

[Mr. 29K]

Tito
Mosley 2X
Hopkins
Floyd
Manny

4 of those loses were gift decisions

This!

De La Hoya was the reason boxing was alive. The real cash cow, the man who made Floyd. Amazing how an old DLH still beat Floyd and got robbed.

DLH; whether you love him or hate him, he's the reason why boxing is alive and well.

Thanks, Oscar.

[Cinci Champ]

stop this dont u know the rules? ur only allowed to critique fighters resumes like this if their name is floyd mayweather. Anyone else is off limits. On a serious note before reading some of the posts I cant think of one off the top of my head. He got some raw decisions against prime fighters tho so depends how you are looking at it.

[Cinci Champ]

He beat WHitaker while Whitaker was top dog at 147 and widely regarded as one of the top defensive fighters of all time.

There is also no doubt in the majority of fans and journalists minds that he beat Tito and if you watched the fight, he completely outclassed the second best welter of his generation, winning at least 8 or 9 rounds and doing so comfortably.

That's 2 out and out ATGs but he also holds wins over top calibre fighters in Quartey, Vargas, Sturm (a bit dodgy) and so on.

ya sounds like all oscars big wins were actually loses that were controversial. Whitaker may of still been considered one best defensive fighters but if you look back on that fight and watch it whitaker was absolutely not in his prime.

ive come to the conclusion tho that you can downgrade every single fighters resume whether the person they beat was too old, overrated, to young, to big, to small I mean the list goes on. One thing boxing fans are good at is discrediting fighters resume's. I understand threads like this but I just think its unfortunate we as boxing fans discredit fighters careers

[boliodogs]

Oscar was very good. The fights with Tito and Mosley were close and many think Oscar deserved to win one or more of those fights. He beat a Whitaker who wasn't that far past prime and he KOed Vargas who was still good. He might be overrated by some but he has a good record. He deserves his place in the Hall of Fame. He earned it. Only the best beat him and not by much except for Hopkins and Pacquiao when he was too old and in poor condition trying to make too low of weight.

[soul_survivor]

This fight had 2 of the top 3 P4P best fighters in the world facing off. Nobody called Whitaker shot heading into this fight. And his issues with coke were his fight AFTER this. Tested positive after that fight then suspended then retired then came back out of retirement. Was never the same after. But it's revisionist history to say he was washed up when the fight was signed Whitaker was 32 years old and #1 P4P in the world. His personal life fell apart the years after this fight and why he so sharply was done in boxing.

I completely agree, which is what I explained in my edit. Going into the fight ,Whitaker was the top welter around (also said that in a previous post). It's ridiculous to think that a guy in the middle of a long WBC champ streak was washed up all of a sudden.