Comments Thread For: De La Hoya on Mayweather: Fans Want Drama, Not a Runner

[Chollo Vista]

so do you have a problem with pacquiao, Mosley and cotto not fighting Paul Williams? because all of those guys were active at 147 while Williams was there . Floyd was retired.

they get a pass tho right?

No because all the top 147 lbers fought each other except Floyd who retired.

Marg fought Williams/prime Cotto/Mosley when it counted

Cotto fought Pac, Marg and Mosley when it counted.

Williams fought #1 Marg.

Wanna know who Floyd fought? #1 Junior WW Ricky Hatton.

This is from a guy who says he's TBE. no one is picking on Floyd. Stop

[Chollo Vista]

you keep talking about 2008 but skipping over that Floyd vs cotto was supposed to happen at 140 in 2005. Floyd didn't fight at all in 2008.

arum changed his mind and said cotto wasn't ready.

you dudes change the narrative over and over

Floyd vs Mosley was supposed to happen in 2006. hbo was ready to make the fight and Mosley turned it down and said he was going on vacation


Dr la Hoya vs mayweather happened in 2007 because Oscar wanted it too.

Oscar was the A side not Floyd. so Floyd had to wait until Oscar decided to fight. it wasn't the other way around.

Floyd didn't pick Oscar. Oscar picked Floyd.

Oscar was the A side. Floyd didn't wait til Oscar was 36. Oscar waited until he was 36.

these are facts, not opinions

Cotto was not prime in 2005. He was prime in 08. Should Wlad had fought Joshua in 2015 or 2017? Big difference.

I never said Floyd ducked Mosley so pay attention.

DLH was over the hill at the tail end of his career. Look at the stats I posted. The next fight after Floyd, DLH got beat up by Steve Forbes for crying out loud

And do I need to show you all the videos where Floyd was calling out De La Hoya?

[Chollo Vista]

you keep talking about 2008 but skipping over that Floyd vs cotto was supposed to happen at 140 in 2005.

In 2008, here were The Ring's top 10 Welterweights:

Antonio Margarito
Miguel Cotto
Shane Mosley
Joshua Clottey
Manny Pacquiao
Carlos Quintana
Zab Judah
Luis Collazo
Andre Berto
Isaac Hlatshwayo

In 2007, here were The Ring's top 10 Welterweights:

Floyd Mayweather Jr., Champion
Miguel Cotto
Paul Williams
Shane Mosley
Antonio Margarito
Zab Judah
Kermit Cintron
Luis Collazo
Joshua Clottey
Jackson Osei Bonsu
Oktay Urkal



Tell me why instead of fighting Cotto, Williams, Margarito, Floyd fought Ricky Hatton and retired right after?

When presented with Cotto, why did Floyd say "I won't let the sport of boxing retire me, I'll retire before that happens"?

Why did Floyd say this only to continue to fight for another 10 years to this day?

[Mr.Fantastic]

Oscar could have fought Forrest after forrest beat Mosley not once, but twice.

de la hoya didn't want that fight.

and I guess you agree that he ducked margarito after he beat cotto? to instead fight a 135 pacquiao that ended up being a cherry pick gon wrong

De la Hoya went for Vargas and Forrest went for Mayorga. Forrest then lost back to back. Just stop man.

[Larry the boss]

In 2008, here were The Ring's top 10 Welterweights:

Antonio Margarito
Miguel Cotto
Shane Mosley
Joshua Clottey
Manny Pacquiao
Carlos Quintana
Zab Judah
Luis Collazo
Andre Berto
Isaac Hlatshwayo

In 2007, here were The Ring's top 10 Welterweights:

Floyd Mayweather Jr., Champion
Miguel Cotto
Paul Williams
Shane Mosley
Antonio Margarito
Zab Judah
Kermit Cintron
Luis Collazo
Joshua Clottey
Jackson Osei Bonsu
Oktay Urkal



Tell me why instead of fighting Cotto, Williams, Margarito, Floyd fought Ricky Hatton and retired right after?

When presented with Cotto, why did Floyd say "I won't let the sport of boxing retire me, I'll retire before that happens"?

Why did Floyd say this only to continue to fight for another 10 years to this day?

Cotto himself said he never chased a Mayweather fight and after Floyd left Top Rank he did no business with them cause he was owed i think 100k..this is well documented..the Hatton fight was in huge demand and people at the time were saying Floyd would duck him..lets not rewrite history man

[Chollo Vista]

Cotto himself said he never chased a Mayweather fight and after Floyd left Top Rank he did no business with them cause he was owed i think 100k..this is well documented..the Hatton fight was in huge demand and people at the time were saying Floyd would duck him..lets not rewrite history man

When Cotto was asked if he would fight FMJ, Cotto said yes, Ill fight whoever's in front of me.

When FMJ was asked if he would fight Cotto, FMJ said Cotto lives too far and he won't let boxing retire him.

There's a difference in rhetoric.

Regarding Hatton, Hatton was the lesser fighter of the three (I.e. Williams, Cotto, Marg) and wasn't even a Welterweight let alone top Welterweight. Hatton tried to come up to 147 and barely was able to beat Luis Collazo. He was a JWW.

But let me play devil's advocate. Could Floyd have fought Hatton, followed by Cotto, followed by Williams followed by Marg? Absolutely.

Was it a schitty decision to fight JWW Hatton and then retire and skip out on fighting all the top WWs until they either moved up in weight or beat the crap out each other only to call yourself TBE thereafter? You bet your ass.

[LockardTheGOAT]

You'll notice that Mayweather doesn't have to say anything about DLH because he beat him in and out of the ring.

Out of the ring, you say? Oscar is a more successful promoter than Floyd outside of the ring. Hence why Oscar has Canelo and Floyd is sitting on the sidelines saying he wished he had Canelo under his tutelage instead.

[bluebeam]

No because all the top 147 lbers fought each other except Floyd who retired.

Marg fought Williams/prime Cotto/Mosley when it counted

Cotto fought Pac, Marg and Mosley when it counted.

Williams fought #1 Marg.

Wanna know who Floyd fought? #1 Junior WW Ricky Hatton.

This is from a guy who says he's TBE. no one is picking on Floyd. Stop

Floyd also fought cotto,mosley,Pac so stop making excuses.

none of those dudes fought Williams except margarito.

you just proved you are bias.

[bluebeam]

Cotto was not prime in 2005. He was prime in 08. Should Wlad had fought Joshua in 2015 or 2017? Big difference.

I never said Floyd ducked Mosley so pay attention.

DLH was over the hill at the tail end of his career. Look at the stats I posted. The next fight after Floyd, DLH got beat up by Steve Forbes for crying out loud

And do I need to show you all the videos where Floyd was calling out De La Hoya?

so you agree that is was Oscar fault that the fight happened in 2007 and not prior?

because Floyd was calling him out for years, like you said right?

and cotto was a champion in 2005. he lost his title in 2008.

that's the difference. cotto was a champion at the same time as Floyd in 2005. it would have been a unification.

Joshua wasn't a champion in 2015 . see the difference?

[Chuckguy]

Ok it's official Oscar is butt hurt!