Comments Thread For: Whyte: Deontay Wilder 'An Embarrassement to Heavyweight Boxing'

[Deus]

I'll tell you what. After you get the correct rhetoric from Hearn and his clarity between the WBC, Hearn, Whyte and Don King, get back to me. Because Don King has made it clear that he will step in the way of any fight before Stiverne so why would rhetoric based on Hearn matter in his case? If Wilder decides to fight Whyte or anyone I'm all for it even if it's in the UK.

Does Hearn want Whyte want to fight him before or after his mandatory?

And why does Wilder even have to entertain Whyte at all who is no higher than 5 in the WBC?

Whyte isn't a mandatory. Wilder isn't auditioning for a fight with Joshua. Wilder has a trinket just like Joshua.

Now you said that's according to Hearn and then say that you don't know if it's correct or incorrect. Lets stick to what's out there and correct. And you need to realize this. Wilder does NOT have to fight Whyte.

And let me add this as a side note and this is my opinion which doesn't have to be responded to. But if you do, eh so be it.

I'm against the Joshua fight because he's a crap fighter, he has beaten nobody to even become a mandatory as you can see his last 4 fights, and that I think that Joshua doesn't want to face Wilder until he has absolutely no choice but to fight the man.

Wlad flattened Pulev which showed us that Pulev won't ever beat any elite fighter. Yeah yeah yeah that's why they fight the fight. But that's my opinion. Pulev isn't the pull off the upset kinda guy. He doesn't have those type of skills.

I need to realise this? That line pretty much sums up the problem here. Just because i've disagreed and pointed holes in some of your pro-Wilder comments you instantly assume that i'm anti-Wilder. I'm not.

I have not once said that Wilder needs to fight Whyte. I personally do think it'd be an interesting fight but I would fully expect Wilder to beat Whyte. Wilder doesn't need to fight Whyte, but for the money on the table Whyte seems a good option.

Hopefully the above will illustrate why i've chosen to ignore your myriad of questions above that statement, because in truth I do not know the answer to most of those questions and will not claim to, i'm not here to advocate that Wilder has to face Whyte, although I do perceive that there is an upside to facing him, that being making more money vs AJ as i've mentioned.

As for Pulev, I agree that he doesn't have the tools necessary to struggle Joshua and that it'd most likely be a simple fight, same for Wilder with Stiverne. Alas though both are fights that have to be made irrelevant of fan opinion of them. I'd prefer them to be done out of the way and then the heavyweight title picture will be much clearer.

Beyond that, i'm not going to begrudge you your opinion that you believe that Joshua will avoid Wilder for as long as he can. That's your opinion and you're entitled to it, even if I don't agree with it. My issue before was your statement that Joshua is avoiding Wilder because saying you think something is totally different to stating that that's how something is.

[rudy]

Dillian shyte you are a fat rat face bum who lost to grandpa chisora lmfaoooooo

Another one caught Whyte doing his mum"peeleft:

[Raggamuffin]

I need to realise this? That line pretty much sums up the problem here. Just because i've disagreed and pointed holes in some of your pro-Wilder comments you instantly assume that i'm anti-Wilder. I'm not.

I have not once said that Wilder needs to fight Whyte. I personally do think it'd be an interesting fight but I would fully expect Wilder to beat Whyte. Wilder doesn't need to fight Whyte, but for the money on the table Whyte seems a good option.

Hopefully the above will illustrate why i've chosen to ignore your myriad of questions above that statement, because in truth I do not know the answer to most of those questions and will not claim to, i'm not here to advocate that Wilder has to face Whyte, although I do perceive that there is an upside to facing him, that being making more money vs AJ as i've mentioned.

As for Pulev, I agree that he doesn't have the tools necessary to struggle Joshua and that it'd most likely be a simple fight, same for Wilder with Stiverne. Alas though both are fights that have to be made irrelevant of fan opinion of them. I'd prefer them to be done out of the way and then the heavyweight title picture will be much clearer.

Beyond that, i'm not going to begrudge you your opinion that you believe that Joshua will avoid Wilder for as long as he can. That's your opinion and you're entitled to it, even if I don't agree with it. My issue before was your statement that Joshua is avoiding Wilder because saying you think something is totally different to stating that that's how something is.

To be honest you didn't really point holes in anything and we are here to agree to disagree with each other. All you stated was the IBF's ruling. You pretty much don't know what is going on with the WBC, Hearn, Whyte and Wilder. As you said this came from Hearn. That's hearsay and not a part of the rules.

I know the ruling on mandatories. When Joshua asked for an exemption, that's when pretty much everyone knew that the inevitable was coming that Joshua will have to fight Pulev. Many have ****ted all over Pulev because of who he beat to become the mandatory.

The IBF rates guys like Takam at 4, and Haye at 5. These guys are rated ABOVE Luis Ortiz. The IBF is a joke. My ulterior motive I'll admit is that Pulev shouldn't have ever become a mandatory, and that I want Wilder to fight Joshua. I know that's the alphabets always have the last word.

And on the clarification of how the WBC responds to Hearn fighting Whyte, that's not something we may get answers to until whenever. Could be weeks from now or tomorrow. Even if the WBC have said that Wilder can fight Whyte, he doesn't have to.

And you agree that he doesn't have to face Whyte. So see we can agree. It's not personal with me. I see hypocrisy (not yours) in any post and I respond.

I'm old school. The titles don't matter except the lineal hvw championship. Either we get a unification or someone has to beat Fury.

[champion4ever]

Hearn talking about how Joshua wants Wilder: http://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-jos...ematch--117374

Hearn talking about how Wilder v Whyte makes Wilder v Joshua bigger: http://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-gre...-whyte--117867

So yeh, 2 mentions about Wilder fighting Joshua in the last month alone that had articles and topics on this very site (strange how those were missed?). Nobody says his name though...

That said, you obviously will not find anywhere near as many articles of Joshua (or his mouthpiece Hearn) calling out Wilder as you will Wilder calling out Joshua... mainly because Joshua isn't the type to run his mouth non-stop.

It's like you all want to totally ignore that Joshua has contractual obligations and thus a Wilder fight cannot happen right now. Feel free to bring up Hearn protecting Joshua from Wilder if there comes a time when Joshua has nothing in his way stopping him from making a Wilder fight but chooses not to... until then you're just being fanboys.

He can name drop all day but until the day he actually steps into the ring with him, Hearn is hiding and ducking him. That's just like Floyd saying he want to fight GGG but never does but just piggybacking off his name just to garner some attention. It's the same thing with Hearn.

Let's face some facts, Joshua/ Wilder is the biggest fight that could be made in the Heavyweight division at the moment. No one cares about their mandatories. If this fight doesn't get made by the end of 2018, then it should be clear to everyone that Hearn is ducking. He's preserving Anthony Joshua from the inevitable.

The only exception I would give AJ is his mandatory challenge of Luis Ortiz for the WBA title. Outside of that challenge, if he refuses to fight Deontay, then I will have come to the conclusion that he is clearly avoiding him.

[juggernaut666]

Yeah and if he doesn't have to fight Stiverne then cool set up the fight. But this talk of Dentay scared of this scrub is laughable because people are just parroting HEARN and its a easy narrative

But to me Whyte is a no name and u till proven otherwise is in the same ilk as the names you mentioned


It's a C level matchup made interesting because Whyte is a clown and probably make the prefighr antics interesting


For me if it isn't Joshua, Parker , Fury , Klit , Povetkin then it's whatever

I'd even be more interested in ,Pulev or Hughie

Arent you that other clown named ZERO whatever his name was??? you would be more interested in Pulev bc the guy cant punch and is also a counter puncher whos not really more threat to Wilder than whyte would be also bc he fights at others tempos...Wherte whyte would find it easier withan opponent like wilder even if he gets knocked out..bc theres marginal errror at times with punchers...other than that the danger is STILL there on Whytes part.

Hughie???? ...yep a wilder fan above!

[vitali1999]

I'll tell you what. After you get the correct rhetoric from Hearn and his clarity between the WBC, Hearn, Whyte and Don King, get back to me. Because Don King has made it clear that he will step in the way of any fight before Stiverne so why would rhetoric based on Hearn matter in his case? If Wilder decides to fight Whyte or anyone I'm all for it even if it's in the UK.

Does Hearn want Whyte want to fight him before or after his mandatory?

And why does Wilder even have to entertain Whyte at all who is no higher than 5 in the WBC?

Whyte isn't a mandatory. Wilder isn't auditioning for a fight with Joshua. Wilder has a trinket just like Joshua.

Now you said that's according to Hearn and then say that you don't know if it's correct or incorrect. Lets stick to what's out there and correct. And you need to realize this. Wilder does NOT have to fight Whyte.

And let me add this as a side note and this is my opinion which doesn't have to be responded to. But if you do, eh so be it.

I'm against the Joshua fight because he's a crap fighter, he has beaten nobody to even become a mandatory as you can see his last 4 fights, and that I think that Joshua doesn't want to face Wilder until he has absolutely no choice but to fight the man.

Wlad flattened Pulev which showed us that Pulev won't ever beat any elite fighter. Yeah yeah yeah that's why they fight the fight. But that's my opinion. Pulev isn't the pull off the upset kinda guy. He doesn't have those type of skills.

You're right about one thing, wilder doesn't have to face Whyte, he doesn't have to face anybody, ranked or not. The WBC has made that clear. You are a very ****** person. Joshua would wipe his ass with wilder. Wilder will avoid him his entire non mandatory career hahahaaaaaaa

[R_Walken]

Arent you that other clown named ZERO whatever his name was??? you would be more interested in Pulev bc the guy cant punch and is also a counter puncher whos not really more threat to Wilder than whyte would be also bc he fights at others tempos...Wherte whyte would find it easier withan opponent like wilder even if he gets knocked out..bc theres marginal errror at times with punchers...other than that the danger is STILL there on Whytes part.

Hughie???? ...yep a wilder fan above!

I think your a ****** and would jump at the opprotunity to suck Joshuas d.ick if the opprotunity presented itself if Nahmean didn't beat you to it first.

I'm not Original Zero, You probably think that because we've both shown you to be a AJ cheerleader and HEARN parrot using facts. While your rebuttals are emotion filled rants,name calling and grasping at straws . Your hoping that we are the same person because that would mean only 1 person made you look like a imbred


Yeah I'm a Hughie fan and also a Wilder, Joshua, Tyson fan. I don't need to jerk off 1 fighter like you.

Being a fan of both Hughie and Wilder is the main reason why'd Id want to see them fight. I don't even care about Pulev but he's in the top 3 in the WBC and a Mando for AJ and actually beat a couple notable names. so Id be interested in that fight also for Wilder. While Whyte has done nothing and will fight next on the first undercard fight on ESPN against the local garbage man in 8 round fight. Not really Interested in that

I think The only thing interesting about Wilder / Whyte is the prefight build up because Dillian is ****** trash and likes talk sh.it and stir the hornets nest. He's tough but I wouldn't expect it to be hard work for Wilder

[Raggamuffin]

You're right about one thing, wilder doesn't have to face Whyte, he doesn't have to face anybody, ranked or not. The WBC has made that clear. You are a very ****** person. Joshua would

I'd rather see the fight then read what you think will happen if and when they fight.

[juggernaut666]

I think your a ****** and would jump at the opprotunity to suck Joshuas d.ick if the opprotunity presented itself if Nahmean didn't beat you to it first.

I'm not Original Zero, You probably think that because we've both shown you to be a AJ cheerleader and HEARN parrot using facts. While your rebuttals are emotion filled rants,name calling and grasping at straws . Your hoping that we are the same person because that would mean only 1 person made you look like a imbred


Yeah I'm a Hughie fan and also a Wilder, Joshua, Tyson fan. I don't need to jerk off 1 fighter like you.

Being a fan of both Hughie and Wilder is the main reason why'd Id want to see them fight. I don't even care about Pulev but he's in the top 3 in the WBC and a Mando for AJ and actually beat a couple notable names. so Id be interested in that fight also for Wilder. While Whyte has done nothing and will fight next on the first undercard fight on ESPN against the local garbage man in 8 round fight. Not really Interested in that

I think The only thing interesting about Wilder / Whyte is the prefight build up because Dillian is ****** trash and likes talk sh.it and stir the hornets nest. He's tough but I wouldn't expect it to be hard work for Wilder

well again this last post confirms you are that Re...tard( dont want to actually spell that in one word i might get banned bc of fragile minds who run boxing sites) and ban the smartest guy who gets attacked daily...not that it matter bc i win ALL the time...lol

Pulev is not stylistically a dangerous fight for Wilder at this point based on a few things.....ZERO you are a fool and only fool yourself on here....

[Deus]

He can name drop all day but until the day he actually steps into the ring with him, Hearn is hiding and ducking him. That's just like Floyd saying he want to fight GGG but never does but just piggybacking off his name just to garner some attention. It's the same thing with Hearn.

Let's face some facts, Joshua/ Wilder is the biggest fight that could be made in the Heavyweight division at the moment. No one cares about their mandatories. If this fight doesn't get made by the end of 2018, then it should be clear to everyone that Hearn is ducking. He's preserving Anthony Joshua from the inevitable.

The only exception I would give AJ is his mandatory challenge of Luis Ortiz for the WBA title. Outside of that challenge, if he refuses to fight Deontay, then I will have come to the conclusion that he is clearly avoiding him.

So first you say that Hearn/Joshua don't mention Wilder's name, then when I easily find 2 very recent articles your next statement is 'he can name drop all day'. So when Wilder calls out Joshua that's evidence that Wilder wants Joshua, yet the other way around means nothing and is just name dropping? You literally reek of bias.