Wilders title reign and career as a whole has to rank as the most padded of all time. To be a world champion with a record of something like 38-0 and not to have fought a SINGLE decent opponent????
People say Stiverne is a decent opponent, are you kidding me? what because he beat fat boy Chris Arreola? what else had he ever done. Wilder could not even knock the guy out either. Unbelievable.
I honestly believe Whyte beats Wilder. Wilder does not knock Whyte out as he has a very good chin and has decent boxing skills, he isn't the greates but is solid enough to beat hype job Wilder.
Wilder himself knows this so is pricing himself out of the fight, if Wilder honestly believed he beats Whyte he would fight him, huge mount of money and would really build a AJ fight, it would be a no brainer.
Wilders title reign and career as a whole has to rank as the most padded of all time. To be a world champion with a record of something like 38-0 and not to have fought a SINGLE decent opponent????
stiverne was ring ****zine #2 in the world when wilder dominated him.
stiverne was ring ****zine #2 in the world when wilder dominated him.
you're trying to rewrite history.
This was rings 2015 rankings..
Wladimir Klitschko
Alexander Povetkin
Deontay Wilder
Kubrat Pulev
Luis Ortiz
Bermane Stiverne
Vyacheslav Glazkov
Bryant Jennings
Ruslan Chagaev
Anthony Joshua
This is 2014 rings..
Alexander Povetkin
Bermane Stiverne
Tyson Fury
Kubrat Pulev
Bryant Jennings
Deontay Wilder
Vyacheslav Glazkov
Mike Perez
Chris Arreola
Ruslan Chagaev
Lets take a look at your Stivern number two claim when he fought Wilder.......
Sorry but Wlad is and always was better than Stivern( though you might argue that..lol) thats ONE guy over him.Tyson would have belt him around...thats TWO guys. Pulev would have handled Stivern...thats THREE. Jennings is a superior fighter too Stivern...thats FOUR .Wilder DID defeat him and would have even before he was mentioned to fight. thats FIVE. GTFO with he was number two BECAUSE RING SAID SO...LMAO
LETS add some more guys AFTER Wilder beat him...Povetkin crushes him...thats SIX ..Ortiz thats 7. Joshua?lol...thats EIGHT.
I'll add my own CURRENT guys who werent there before like Parker/ Whyte/Breazeale/Izu and probably Washington and Chisora also beat him bc the guy hasnt fought in TWO years and arguably lost to Rossey, so you can pretend all you like on here..THATS WHAT YOU DO.
He beats guys like MAYBE Glaskov/Cheagav/ Perez and certainly Arreola in that year you are making him superman...2014/2015.
But he was the number TWO guy in the world bc RING tells you so.......
tbrb, ring, espn, boxingscene, etc etc all had stiverne #2 or #3 at the time
Who cares who had what ,do you REALLY think Stivern CURRENTLY is the TRUE mandatory LEGIT guy by the WBC at number ONE ? I bet you do? Do you see yet how foolish it is to suggest AFTER that post above i have to even try and tell me otherwise at any time Stivern was a LEGIT # 2 boxer? lol
Do you really think Stivern holds any meaningful relevance to anyone in the top ten of REAL rankings (i know they are all junk,apparently you think rankings are the truth and thats bc you THINK they got their by fighting when its really about $$$ ,do you really think KING has nothing to do with Stiverns rank ? lol )
All you do is continue nonsense , and thats bc you lack common sense .
That means nothing except that Stiverne was vastly over-rated for no other reason than that he beat Chris Arreola twice.
then why rank fighters at all if after the fact everyone will just rewrite history?
would be very easy to make the case that joshua's win over klitschko is being vastly over-rated.
first of all, klitschko had been inactive so long he wasn't even rated to begin with, let alone in the top 10. further, he was coming off an embarrassing lost and before that he struggled against jennings.
klitschko hasn't won a fight in years, has lost two straight. maybe he's over the hill? maybe he's shot? maybe joshua almost lost to a shot over the hill inactive fighter who hasn't beaten anybody in years?
we could play this game all long. but the fair thing to do is to give people credit for what they accomplish and not try to rewrite history afterward.
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