Let me give you an idea on how great Roy Jones Jr really was

**robertzimmerman** · 06-25-2017, 06:48 PM

Originally posted by bigdramashow

decision in my opinion, joe would have outworked him.

Even Joe doesn't believe that.

**robertzimmerman** · 06-25-2017, 06:55 PM

Originally posted by bigdramashow

he boxed rings around jones jr though after. joe could be dropped but he always got straight back up. jones jr was great, an all time great but joe didnt know how to lose.

Didn't know how to lose?

Get out with that nonsense.

Nobody thinks he was unbeatable just because he didn't lose.

Many other fighters could have gone 46-0 with that resume.

Boxed circles around him? Wow! What about Johnson beating him up and knocking him cold over 4 years earlier?

What about Joe saying in 2007, that a fight would be pointless because Roy had been shot since 2004?

Go and watch Roy when he was at SMW. Joe would never have signed the contract.

**robertzimmerman** · 06-25-2017, 07:13 PM

Originally posted by BattlingNelson

Top as in the ring top 3.

**Gillie** · 06-25-2017, 07:36 PM

Originally posted by Thurman

That's why the Tarver KO was so shocking.

It was like seeing Superman get shot down.

People just weren't ready to see that happen.

I remember how silent it got at my friend's place when Jones got caught by Tarver and how stunned I was to see Jones in that position. He really was superman and I was hoping for him to fight Lennox Lewis after beating Tarver. Life's a trip sometimes!! Peace.

**Gillie** · 06-25-2017, 07:39 PM

Originally posted by robertzimmerman

Didn't know how to lose?

Get out with that nonsense.

Nobody thinks he was unbeatable just because he didn't lose.

Many other fighters could have gone 46-0 with that resume.

Boxed circles around him? Wow! What about Johnson beating him up and knocking him cold over 4 years earlier?

What about Joe saying in 2007, that a fight would be pointless because Roy had been shot since 2004?

Go and watch Roy when he was at SMW. Joe would never have signed the contract.

Agreed. Prime Jones easily handles Calzaghe. Joe would last all 12 because he was tough as hell but would probably win a round or two at best.

**Gillie** · 06-25-2017, 07:42 PM

Originally posted by robertzimmerman

De la Hoya was right at the top of the pound for pound list. I hadn't realized that he finishes first for a couple of years. Crazy!! Also, who is Yuri Arbachakov??

**robertzimmerman** · 06-25-2017, 07:52 PM

Originally posted by Gillie

Agreed. Prime Jones easily handles Calzaghe. Joe would last all 12 because he was tough as hell but would probably win a round or two at best.

I think it would have been a U/D, unless Joe had've gone at him hard. If that had've happened, he'd have been taken out. (Not that Joe would ever have taken the fight)

**robertzimmerman** · 06-25-2017, 08:00 PM

Originally posted by Gillie

De la Hoya was right at the top of the pound for pound list. I hadn't realized that he finishes first for a couple of years. Crazy!! Also, who is Yuri Arbachakov??

Yeah, Oscar was highly rated.

Oscar being rated that highly irked Roy. Roy felt under appreciated.

I've never heard of that Japanese fighter. I never really followed the lower weights though.

Boxing was so great in the 90's.

**Boxing Goat** · 06-25-2017, 08:15 PM

Originally posted by IronDanHamza

As you can see, Charles #1.

Charles will be #1 on most lists.

No way is Jones' competition at LHW better than Charles'.

Yea because those club fighters who had lost anywhere between 5 and 17 fights each to other club fighters are better than Jones' competition.......not.

You want to talk about one of Jones' opponents being a trash man at one point, well if you had the opportunity to see what the fighters Charles beat did for a living would probably render you speechless on the subject. Jones was in a better era period. The guys back then fought more but they were nowhere close to better. Honestly do you think Charles could have beaten Joshua or Klitschko? It simply would not have happened.

So I think you are wrong. You think I am wrong. We've been over this. The only difference is that I provided a legitimate reason for the way I think the way I do but all you can do is tell me how he would beat Jones based on what you have read because you didn't actually see him fight live at lhw and there's no footage of it. So how can you tell me you think he beats Jones, who we've all seen and know is great?

You're a fake and think you know someone just because most lists have him ranked top 3 all time. So f@cking what. Joe Louis is ranked higher than Tyson all time but do you think he would beat an absolute prime Tyson? I'll answer for you.....no fkn way.

Really this time, I rest my case and trust me I got no problem that you disagree.

**SweetPbfAli** · 06-25-2017, 08:15 PM

[QUOTE=Boxing Goat;17797598]No offense to you or Charles but.....

Power - meh/so so
Speed - very good
Technique - Very good
Size - good
Ring IQ - decent
Boxing ability - average

Jones had all that and then some. He had freakish power and speed at 160-168. Freakish.

Plus, you are really talking about a guy who lost to lesser fighter by being out boxed at times.

Jones didn't legitimately lose until he was 35 and shot really.[/QUOkTE]

While technically true, let's not forget that Griffin was outboxing him in that first fight. I think Jones had started to turn it around but that DQ punch was a night's worth of frustration dealing with Griffin.

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