Comments Thread For: Duva: Ward's Team 'Should Be Embarrassed' by Offer to Jackson

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  • Rip Chudd
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    #81
    Originally posted by Porter's Dad
    Actually, Duva is the only one who doesn't come across badly in this sorry saga. Everyone else comes off looking crap:

    Kov - for marginalising JDJ and not listening to him, then denigrating him as a trainer, even saying he is a mitt-holder.

    JDJ - for saying his first reaction to the offer was "how much"? Seriously, dude? You have a price?

    Ward's Team: for this ridiculous attempt at mind games. Seriously, is this where boxing wants to go? Where trainers are made offers to switch sides before a fight? Do you know how ridiculous boxing would be if you can simply pay to disrupt a fighters whole camp? And not just that - are Team Ward that worried about Kovalev? I mean, as Dubin says, it was like making the "bully pee down their leg". Yeah, right.

    As for Duva - at least she was not involved in this sorry episode. And anyway, it is Roc Nation who are fronting and running the promotion, as per their agreement.
    Oh it's not this little saga I was talking about. I'm talking about her as a promoter in general. Although I thought she was a punk for this I will give her props on getting her fighter that shot for the IBF belt. Sad way they had to go about it to get Fury stripped though. then the belt ends up going to Charles Martin

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    • Squ□redCircle34
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      #82
      Originally posted by MC Hammer
      If that's what you thought was going to happen- considering I don't think I've ever seen Ward stoop someone with a single body shot, especially at a higher weight-then there is no reason to listen to you about any fight prediction whatsoever.
      I meant accumulation of body punches!

      Kov has had a gassing problem in the Chilemba fight and I expected Ward to take advantage of that!

      He only targeted the body because he cant outbox Kov and can't stay on the outside!

      Ask AROUND, I've been right on many occasions with my picks!

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      • Larry the boss
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        #83
        its all mind games

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        • MC Hammer
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          #84
          Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34
          I meant accumulation of body punches!

          Kov has had a gassing problem in the Chilemba fight and I expected Ward to take advantage of that!

          He only targeted the body because he cant outbox Kov and can't stay on the outside!

          Ask AROUND, I've been right on many occasions with my picks!
          It still would have been out of the ordinary especially with a 12th rd KO, but at least you have your rationale.

          But yeah, body punches are a part of boxing, being able to get inside and let those go, without being held at bay, is an example of out-boxing someone. It doesn't only have to be popping someone from the outside and slickly getting out of the way. The Mayweather style has gotten us used to seeing that as the only way to outbox someone, but making the other fighter fight your fight will always be out-boxing in my opinion.

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          • Kagami Taiga
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            #85
            Originally posted by Porter's Dad
            Please link to the racist rant.
            Look it up. Kovalev has been accused of doing and saying racist things numerous times. This isn't news. If you wanna act like it is then have at it.

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            • MantisToboggan
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              #86
              Originally posted by Kagami Taiga
              Lol Kovalev goes on a racist rant...that's ok let's make excuses for it. Team Ward causes a little dissension in team Kovs ranks and "OMG that's SO wrong! It's unfair!" Lol you guys a ******ed.
              Hahaha raysis rant Little Dissension hahahah - you on Wart payrol ???

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              • Mr. Luthor
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                #87
                Originally posted by Porter's Dad
                Actually, Duva is the only one who doesn't come across badly in this sorry saga. Everyone else comes off looking crap:

                Kov - for marginalising JDJ and not listening to him, then denigrating him as a trainer, even saying he is a mitt-holder.

                JDJ - for saying his first reaction to the offer was "how much"? Seriously, dude? You have a price?

                Ward's Team: for this ridiculous attempt at mind games. Seriously, is this where boxing wants to go? Where trainers are made offers to switch sides before a fight? Do you know how ridiculous boxing would be if you can simply pay to disrupt a fighters whole camp? And not just that - are Team Ward that worried about Kovalev? I mean, as Dubin says, it was like making the "bully pee down their leg". Yeah, right.

                As for Duva - at least she was not involved in this sorry episode. And anyway, it is Roc Nation who are fronting and running the promotion, as per their agreement.
                I'll say it again.......

                In 1994 Emmanuel Steward trained Oliver McCall in his upset of reigning WBC Heavyweight champion Lennox Lewis. After the loss, Lewis fired his trainer Pepe Correa and hired Emmanuel Steward.

                Guess who promoted Lewis vs McCall 2? That's right....Duva and Main Event. Kathy is loose with the truth like every other promoter.

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                • Graz
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                  #88
                  Either way it's unlikely that Team Ward's attempt to "rattle" Kovalev would be successful. Kovalev was already angry enough about the outcome of their last fight (the decision that is). I just want to see the best man win. To the unbiased eye Ward did not beat Kovalev last time. Kovalev knows it and I think Ward does too. Ward was lucky to get that win. He knows he better dominate Kovalev this go around or doubts will still surface. And as for Kovalev prefight antics won't phase him. He's coming for blood this time. May the best man win this time.

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                  • uppercut510
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                    #89
                    Jackson seemed open to leaving with the right offer if you can peep it, this is working in hyping the fight as well. I see Jackson leaving Kov after this fight

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                    • Squ□redCircle34
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by MC Hammer
                      It still would have been out of the ordinary especially with a 12th rd KO, but at least you have your rationale.

                      But yeah, body punches are a part of boxing, being able to get inside and let those go, without being held at bay, is an example of out-boxing someone. It doesn't only have to be popping someone from the outside and slickly getting out of the way. The Mayweather style has gotten us used to seeing that as the only way to outbox someone, but making the other fighter fight your fight will always be out-boxing in my opinion.
                      Agree to disagree, I think outboxing is the fighter who does more work, brings more pain, more crisp in their delivery of punches and cleaner which is of course what Kovalev displayed in the fight and would've been a total shut out if Ward didn't make it ugly and a wrestling match!

                      Kov is a stubborn fighter and should've listened to Jackson on not wrestling with Ward!

                      Kov wanted to prove he can outbox the so called better boxer and as well show him he can outwrestle him as well!

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