Comments Thread For: Duva: Ward's Team 'Should Be Embarrassed' by Offer to Jackson

[Ray*]

The art of war by Roc Nation and team Ward. Find a disgruntled employee and make him an offer to join your team. If he does, you get information to help you. If not, you are right where you were before.

Then be the first to the media so your version of the story is whats out there and it makes JDJ and Team Kov play defense in the media.

JDJ has a deep voice. Jay-Z should offered him a guest spot on the next Beyonce album. that would've sealed the deal and JDJ would be in Ward's camp now.

You're absolutely right.

[The Big Dunn]

Ok fair enough, but we don't have to agree with all Roc Nation moves.

Thank you for calling me a solid poster.

Just trying to be fair as much as I can, since we all have some bias unfortunately.

I'm fine with people not agreeing with the move. I just think we need to discuss it in terms of Roc/Prince/JDJ/Duva/ward/kov not third parties not involved in the fight.

Roc Nation is a huge business conglomerate, not a rinky dink promotional outfit. They are going to handle things in boxing the way they do in business. We may not agree with it, but to expect otherwise is crazy.

[Ake-Dawg]

The thread topic is about hiring a trainer from the opposite camp.

And hell man, we can relate Floyd to this since he did the same thing in the biggest event in boxing history (money wise).

I don't like Floyd as a public character if you prefer.

He doesn't have to be an exemple, he's a free man.

But, still, people are looking at him, especially young men and kids from the inner city.

And I'm not sure about Floyd being the good exemple he could/should be.

Making people like you think doing btch move like hiring Ariza is something smart and cool.
Floyd is good at brainwashing his fans in the wrong way, that's the problem I have with him.

So looking out for ones self is a ***** move? Trying to get every advantage over a guy who wants to knock you out is a ***** move? It's called being smart and looking for every advantage...even psychological ones. Yeah it's entertainment for us and we'd like to live in fantasy land that these guys fight for loyalty and pride. Guess what, they don't and the ones that have are broke and sick. I have no problem with a man doing everything he can within the legal framework to protect his business and guess what boxers are in business to win.

[Ake-Dawg]

Whether it was gamesmanship or a serious attempt to lure JDJ away from Kovalev, the way I look at it is .. if you are confident of winning, why resort to stunts like this?

Why save bullets in a gun fight? Double tap a zombie. I'm all about doing everything I can to get the win.

Why is it the nonfighters who always want to determine what measures a fighter should take to guarantee a win?

[Kagami Taiga]

Lol Kovalev goes on a racist rant...that's ok let's make excuses for it. Team Ward causes a little dissension in team Kovs ranks and "OMG that's SO wrong! It's unfair!" Lol you guys a ******ed.

[BillyBoxing]

So looking out for ones self is a ***** move? Trying to get every advantage over a guy who wants to knock you out is a ***** move? It's called being smart and looking for every advantage...even psychological ones. Yeah it's entertainment for us and we'd like to live in fantasy land that these guys fight for loyalty and pride. Guess what, they don't and the ones that have are broke and sick. I have no problem with a man doing everything he can within the legal framework to protect his business and guess what boxers are in business to win.

Legal moves=btch moves are 2 different things.

A btch move can be legal.

[BillyBoxing]

Lol Kovalev goes on a racist rant...that's ok let's make excuses for it. Team Ward causes a little dissension in team Kovs ranks and "OMG that's SO wrong! It's unfair!" Lol you guys a ******ed.

Who said Kov racist rant was OK?

I'm waiting for an exemple.

Maybe freedom I guess, but freedom doesn't represent the board...

[BillyBoxing]

I'm fine with people not agreeing with the move. I just think we need to discuss it in terms of Roc/Prince/JDJ/Duva/ward/kov not third parties not involved in the fight.

Roc Nation is a huge business conglomerate, not a rinky dink promotional outfit. They are going to handle things in boxing the way they do in business. We may not agree with it, but to expect otherwise is crazy.

Boxing is business and also a sport.

From a business point it is smart.

From a sportmanship point it is a puss move.

[Kagami Taiga]

Who said Kov racist rant was OK?

I'm waiting for an exemple.

Maybe freedom I guess, but freedom doesn't represent the board...

Plenty of ppl defended it. Shut up. I honestly didn't say anything. I don't really care. This is boxing. All the ******* to the left. But I sure as hell didn't see you crying so hard about it. But you'll cry about this tho right?

[kafkod]

Why save bullets in a gun fight? Double tap a zombie. I'm all about doing everything I can to get the win.

Why is it the nonfighters who always want to determine what measures a fighter should take to guarantee a win?

Ward is a fighter, and I doubt he played any part in this game. James Prince, Ward's manager, is a gangster who would shit his pants if he had to go up against a guy like Kovalev in a one-on-one fight. I think it was probably Prince who was behind this plan.