Comments Thread For: Joshua Could Lose IBF Belt Prior To Klitschko II, Pulev Stands Firm

[Eff Pandas]

Joshua knew the IBF rules and should already have seen how Tyson Fury was stripped of the the belt due to similar circumstances.

I understand that there's more money in a Klitschko rematch. He can do it if he wants, but the IBF are in the right for taking the title from him if he does.

We all know he can do what he wants. Surely Hearn & Joshua knew that going in too.

So this has already been decided when the fight got signed. If push came to shove they were willing to disregard the IBF belt vs being sued by Klitschko. After beating Klitschko losing the IBF belt is the lesser evil vs losing the fight with Klitschko.

Sorta off topic, but not really the IBF is looking like a dummy constantly with these type moves doe they gotta realize that. The only time they are in the news lately they are either making a bs mandatory since there rankings are ******ed & they are losing out on the best 3% sanctioning fee by stripping the guys who are going into the best money fight over a ****** mandatory fight (& with the recent news I say that as a fan of Lipinets, who I think one day be title holder & potentially the #1 guy at 140 post-Crawford, & a cat who thinks Pulev is probably the best world class HW who likely will be the best HW to never win a title, unless this current IBF situation gets him a vacant title fight vs some Charles Martin type mfer, but both "earned" their mandatory in a bs fight).

Its like some Dumb & Dumber sh^t over at the IBF offices. If these abc groups were in real competition with each other & weren't just printing money over boxing the IBF would be outta business making so many ****** moves. They can't even maximize their corruptness properly which is kinda hilarious in a f#cked up way, but I'm sure some will act like outside of their normal abc group corrupt rankings & likely corrupt way of setting up mandatory fights they are somehow noble when/if they strip Indongo & Joshua.

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We all know he can do what he wants. Surely Hearn & Joshua knew that going in too.

So this has already been decided when the fight got signed. If push came to shove they were willing to disregard the IBF belt vs being sued by Klitschko. After beating Klitschko losing the IBF belt is the lesser evil vs losing the fight with Klitschko.

Sorta off topic, but not really the IBF is looking like a dummy constantly with these type moves doe they gotta realize that. The only time they are in the news lately they are either making a bs mandatory since there rankings are ******ed & they are losing out on the best 3% sanctioning fee by stripping the guys who are going into the best money fight over a ****** mandatory fight (& with the recent news I say that as a fan of Lipinets, who I think one day be title holder & potentially the #1 guy at 140 post-Crawford, & a cat who thinks Pulev is probably the best world class HW who likely will be the best HW to never win a title, unless this current IBF situation gets him a vacant title fight vs some Charles Martin type mfer, but both "earned" their mandatory in a bs fight).

Its like some Dumb & Dumber sh^t over at the IBF offices. If these abc groups were in real competition with each other & weren't just printing money over boxing the IBF would be outta business making so many ****** moves. They can't even maximize their corruptness properly which is kinda hilarious in a f#cked up way, but I'm sure some will act like outside of their normal abc group corrupt rankings & likely corrupt way of setting up mandatory fights they are somehow noble when/if they strip Indongo & Joshua.

They need to fix their rulebook and make an adjustment so that unifications can procede without having to worry about mandatories.

But money fights? You can't have the #1 contender in the rankings waiting around forever for his title shot, just because there might be more money to be made elsewhere. I disagree with you on that.

[4truth]

Wilder lays that trash out cold.

Maybe but he was on his way to losing to Washington when Washington tired and stopped jabbing. Pulev has an even better jab and might keep it up for the full 12. What part of that is wrong?

[KJR89]

Good he won the IBF in similar fashion.. its what he deserves

[BoxerDood]

Joshua and Indongo should both go the Tyson Fury route and tell the IBF to go fk themselves. It's like they're trying to become what the WBC was before Mauricio took over.

[Eff Pandas]

They need to fix their rulebook and make an adjustment so that unifications can procede without having to worry about mandatories.

But money fights? You can't have the #1 contender in the rankings waiting around forever for his title shot, just because there might be more money to be made elsewhere. I disagree with you on that.

Well its not that simple brother. The problem is the entire structure.

Obviously promoters & boxers are going for the money in the current circus structure boxing has cuz they can & should with the lack of meaningful regulation with how things work with the abc groups.

The IBF decided that somehow a guy who'd beaten George Arias (56-13) & Maurice Harris (26-20-3) over a year & a half since a L by KO to Klitschko & a guy who'd beaten Beka Lobjanidze (13-3), Marcelo Luiz Nascimento (20-10), Peter Erdos (9-8-4), Jakov Go**** (16-13) & Andras Csomor (14-8-1) over two & a half years since a L by KO to Fury = a matchup worthy of a mandatory title shot.

Idk how you get to the logic of that position without supporting dumb ass rules &/or corruption neither of which I can get behind. If you can fair play to you.

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Well its not that simple brother. The problem is the entire structure.

Obviously promoters & boxers are going for the money in the current circus structure boxing has cuz they can & should with the lack of meaningful regulation with how things work with the abc groups.

The IBF decided that somehow a guy who'd beaten George Arias (56-13) & Maurice Harris (26-20-3) over a year & a half since a L by KO to Klitschko & a guy who'd beaten Beka Lobjanidze (13-3), Marcelo Luiz Nascimento (20-10), Peter Erdos (9-8-4), Jakov Go**** (16-13) & Andras Csomor (14-8-1) over two & a half years since a L by KO to Fury = a matchup worthy of a mandatory title shot.

Idk how you get to the logic of that position without supporting dumb ass rules &/or corruption neither of which I can get behind. If you can fair play to you.

We've spoken of this before, the IBF ranks the fighters that are willing to participate under its rules.

I'm sure they would love to rank more of Bob Arum's fighters, for example. But why would Arum submit his guys to their strict rules when he can get the WBO to bend rules for him instead?

[Eff Pandas]

We've spoken of this before, the IBF ranks the fighters that are willing to participate under its rules.

I'm sure they would love to rank more of Bob Arum's fighters, for example. But why would Arum submit his guys to their strict rules when he can get the WBO to bend rules for him instead?

I think a ranking group should just rank fighters not make alliances with or against certain promoters regardless of what those promoters feel about them.

You can say it as a defense of the IBF or any abc group, but to me its just more reason to not take this abc group nor the others seriously. I can't take a ranking group seriously that can't perform this most basic of duties of a ranking group + allows mandatory's to be gained via Pulev's & Chisora's recent resume going into their bout.

When you set the bar so low via ****** rules &/or corruption you invite dissent in this chaotic business of boxing.

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I think a ranking group should just rank fighters not make alliances with or against certain promoters regardless of what those promoters feel about them.

You can say it as a defense of the IBF or any abc group, but to me its just more reason to not take this abc group nor the others seriously. I can't take a ranking group seriously that can't perform this most basic of duties of a ranking group + allows mandatory's to be gained via Pulev's & Chisora's recent resume going into their bout.

When you set the bar so low via ****** rules &/or corruption you invite dissent in this chaotic business of boxing.

The IBF doesn't make alliances with or against any promoters. Of all the alphabet groups they are the one that is actually the most transparent, with the least amount of problems that need fixing.

They do stick to their rulebook, though, which does mean that people in the industry who don't like to play by rules will tend to steer away from them.

[Eff Pandas]

The IBF doesn't make alliances with or against any promoters. Of all the alphabet groups they are the one that is actually the most transparent, with the least amount of problems that need fixing.

They do stick to their rulebook, though, which does mean that people in the industry who don't like to play by rules will tend to steer away from them.

I'm not clear on what you mean exactly. What sorta rules are guys not abiding by to not get their fighters ranked or in title fights? You used Top Rank as a example earlier feel free to tell me whats up with the IBF & Top Rank specifically & others if its not too in depth of a thing.