Comments Thread For: Here We Go Again: Canelo vs. Golovkin On Hold Again?

[OnePunch]

terry...you keep saying "doe" almost insinuating that every golovkin detractor must speak in slang and was raised in a substandard urban environment with low-end household income

im a mid 30s white male that was born and raised in an affluent new England beachfront community. and I question golovkins BS all of the time. and I happen to like kovalev and loma very much and question nothing about them. that's the difference.

that reply was to bigdummy1, but you have only been on this forum for less than a month, so unless this is a new alt or you were just a long-time lurker up till now, you dont know the "doe" history. Just search the forums for "but but but lara doe" and "but but but ward doe" and it will become clear.....

and im not even sure how it migrated from the "he young doe" over to the lara and ward stuff.....lol

[Curt Henning]

haha no doubt. Fanboy names instantly remove ANY expectation of credibility or objectivity

I just miss the days when either a fight got made, or it didnt. But you didnt have all this teenage drama on the internet, twitter, or whatever. Sure, Floyd got some jazz when the Margo fight didnt get made, but it wasnt this nonstop, day after day, hour after hour post-fest. It just gets tiresome.

And odds are its probably only 2 or 3 losers and all their alts posting most of this drivel, but usually at least 70% of the threads on the first 2 or 3 pages are about GGG.

Not bad for a guy who supposedly cant draw ants to a picnic.....lol

I hear you...like I said..in a perfect world non of these monetary matters would matter....

Floyd got a lot of jazz...and he still gets it to this very day, on boards, for not fighting margo

do you still believe it was floyds fault and he ducked? because ive seen an exact quote from arum(before Floyd left him and top rank) where arum says Floyd agreed to fight margo for 8 mil. but Floyd wanted future money guarantees from bob for fights with hatton and cotto. the figure Floyd wanted was somewhere around 4-6 million more than bob was willing to guarantee. bob said he was expecting too much and wished him well as he left. he even said he thought Floyd would still work with Top rank(he ended up using golden boy instead). then after Floyd left and he started using golden boy to promote his fights bob flipped and did a 180 and said he was ducking margarita. bob had no idea Floyd was going to become as big as he did. bob didn't think it was possible.

[Curt Henning]

that reply was to bigdummy1, but you have only been on this forum for less than a month, so unless this is a new alt or you were just a long-time lurker up till now, you dont know the "doe" history. Just search the forums for "but but but lara doe" and "but but but ward doe" and it will become clear.....

ive been a lurker here for a bit. but Ive been posting on ESB for years. I know all about the use of "doe". its rampant over there too.

[bigdunny1]

nobody with more than 3 active brain cells would dispute that Canelo is the "a-side doe" over GGG.

What is in dispute is how far does that go? Where is the line? Should GGG fight Canelo for free? Maybe let Canelo **** his sister or something?

Its strictly a business deal. It either happens, or it doesnt happen. But you seem to really take it personally as if you had some sort of stake in it.....

15m is not free you act like he was offered rice and beans to fight canelo. He was offered more money then GGG will ever make fighting anybody. Him demanding ward drop lbs because he's the A side then refusing to drop lbs that to a real A side when he already said he would for floyd is going to far? Thats the problem you live in a world where GGG can do it but others can't. You live in a world where you said Canelo was ducking because he wouldnt send an offer to fight that's all I heard early last year but when he does make an offer oh well how we know it's real...even though Loeffler admitted to receiving it and loud mouth Sanchez and the rest of the GGG team who have no problem running their mouth and setting the record straight on other matters where quite as house mouse never denying the amount of the offer. You know the offer was real and GGG priced himself out. If he wanted the fight bad enough he could of had it last year by dropping weight and now has an offer for sept just take it and stop begging for money his ppvs say he doesn't deserve.

[OnePunch]

I hear you...like I said..in a perfect world non of these monetary matters would matter....

Floyd got a lot of jazz...and he still gets it to this very day, on boards, for not fighting margo

do you still believe it was floyds fault and he ducked? because ive seen an exact quote from arum(before Floyd left him and top rank) where arum says Floyd agreed to fight margo for 8 mil. but Floyd wanted future money guarantees from bob for fights with hatton and cotto. the figure Floyd wanted was somewhere around 4-6 million more than bob was willing to guarantee. bob said he was expecting too much and wished him well as he left. he even said he thought Floyd would still work with Top rank(he ended up using golden boy instead). then after Floyd left and he started using golden boy to promote his fights bob flipped and did a 180 and said he was ducking margarita. bob had no idea Floyd was going to become as big as he did. bob didn't think it was possible.

anytime a fighter makes a choice that someone doesnt like, theres a good chance it will be called a "duck" by someone.

No, I dont think Floyd "ducked" Margo. Why would he? Yes, it would have been an interesting fight for 3 or 4 rounds, and then Floyd would have toyed with him like a cat playing with a squeaky toy.

But Floyd chose the easier path in Baldo, which he was more than entitled to do. The only mistake he made was saying it was about the money, and then supposedly getting $1 dollar more from Goossen. That whole story line didnt pass the smell test.....

[kushking]

Bottom line you ****** mother ****er, since you want to quote me and call me names you little *****, is does Canelo fight for mother ****ingbelts or not? Since you wAnt to jump on my ****ing comment, answer the ****ing question at hand and the substance of my post .

I get so sick of being called ****** and fanboy and **** when I'm just trying to talk boxing. **** these keyboard *****es and their name calling

This comment is to one punch also esp.

What these g fans don't understand is that you reap what you sow.I have avoided coming to these comments for a few yrs because I was tired of always hearing 90% nothing but fanbois saying "son of gift,canela, etc. Or even fishnets(even though I think he is a crossdresser). They said nonsensical arguments to attempt to back it up,while performing mental gymnastics to get out of admitting that golovkin was worse. All these clowns have said these names while contradicting themselves infinitely, when confronted with facts they respond "your just a ni*@#r
Hater,etc.," I Just recently was told"I hope your wifes ****d" I didnt see any fanbois getting panties in a twist then,on the contrary nobody was negating this imbecilic diatribe, but as soon as I point out that they were being hypocrits in calling other more accomplished fighters names who are younger than their deity. I was bombarded with insults & told that I was derailing the thread they had already been derailing from the beginning. Thats the reason people HATE golovkin, BECAUSE his fans behave like wild baboons,& BECAUSE they paint him as being some accomplished undisputed fighter,when in fact hes not "won" close to the belts as canelo or ward,he has "won" 2 belts so far,which were both vacant & he didnt fight a true champion to get those belts as vs lemeiux, lemeiux hadnt defended a vacant belt. & Vs jacobs u already know. I personally "HATE" him because hes been proven FAKE,I cant stand him because they paint him as this ultra humble people's champion who fights for glory,when in fact hes proven to be the exact opposite. Time & time again he talks mad shiiit about more accomplished fighters then hypocritically contradicts himself & takes the absolute most minimal risk possible yet claims everyones scared of him. His fanbois used to flame me for saying jacobs would expose him horribly,not because hes great but because golovkins average.

[LoveWisdomTruth]

Oscar is playing all of us for fools.

[kushking]

Another main reason to hate golovkin is because his team & fans turn WHOEVER has a chance to make him look bad into enemy number 1. Which ever fighter is seen as a rival,threat or being ducked by g is turned on instantly, & then 24 hrs a day is spent trying to destroy them for CLEAR fear of ggg being exposed as a fraud.

[-Kev-]

I swear I thought I was reading an article from boxingnews 24. I think there's been a slew of new writers ever since Jake Donovan left to fill the void, and quality has really been lacking.

I didn't even know Jake left, that's sad to read. He was by far one of the best.

[koolkc107]

GGG camp has been historically difficult to negotiate with 2 many hypocritical stands. 154 or 168 but literally killed the 2 biggest fights of GGG career because he wouldn't go to 168 and wouldn't got to 154. That's just a fact. And now when weight isn't a issue at his precious 160 they pricing them self out with no leg to stand on to demand more money. Canelo agreed to drop weight got to Floyd catchweight demand and took a 90/10 split with Floyd getting 90% just to land the big fight. GGG refuses to make concessions and prices himself out of fights that's his own teams fault and why he hasn't made the big fights fans been asking from him for over 5 years. Turned down 15m that his own team has never denied was on the table. The excuse making and defending of a man who doesn't want to make big fights needs to end. He clearly rather stay at 160 fighting the wade of the world's just don't cry people are ducking when you killed fights on the table.

And now Canelo is arguably the biggest PPV star in the sport.

Because he stayed in his lane and played his role when it came time to grab stardom.

Yeah, Floyd beat him easily. But that loss showed he BELONGED IN THE SAME RING AS FLOYD.

He won the war by losing a battle.

Just like Floyd and Pac did when they took shorter money with DLH.