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  • #11
    Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
    Even Warren and Saunders coming out exposing Loeffler and team GGG for their lies and BS killing fights. Funny how EVERYONE has problems making big fights with GGG. yet canelo making big fights left and right with everyone. But sure it's canelo who is the problem. The narrative that GGG is a victim or being ducked dies everyday. His team is just incapable of making concessions to make a fight.
    Dude he got rid of the lineal MW belt so he wouldn't have to fight GGG what the hell are you talking about. That fact alone makes your whole statement complete garbage and nonsense.

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    • #12
      timeline from a real unbias point of view

      Canelo gave up the title he won from cotto at cotto's requested catchweight (sure canelo had no complaints but it was cotto's catchweight)
      Canelo offers GGG teh fight at a catchweight, ggg refuses the fight reason being it was a catchweight
      Canelo offers GGG the fight at the full 160lbs, ggg refuses teh fight not enough money being offered
      Canelo offers GGG the fight at the full 160lbs + 15 Million Guranteee, GGG refuses teh fight says he wants a Percentage
      Canelo offers GGG teh fight at teh full 160lbs Now Offers Percentage, GGG says Canelo talks too much and no longer entertainig the fight.

      So you can look at Canelo giving up his belt for whatever reason as a ***** move okay I'll roll with that but canelo has tried everything to make this fight with GGG ever since and ggg is just putting up road blocks after road blocks.

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      • #13
        Can't even make a fight with saunders. Tried to lie and say there was no agreement before the Jacobs fight. Saunders posted the text messages to expose loeffler. But yeah warren, saunders, golden boy, ward all have problems with GGG lying and being difficult to deal with. Mr 154 or 168 is not to blame SMH.


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        • #14
          Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
          Even Warren and Saunders coming out exposing Loeffler and team GGG for their lies and BS killing fights. Funny how EVERYONE has problems making big fights with GGG. yet canelo making big fights left and right with everyone. But sure it's canelo who is the problem. The narrative that GGG is a victim or being ducked dies everyday. His team is just incapable of making concessions to make a fight.
          Answer these questions, was canelo allowed to fight cotto on the condition the winner fought GGG next, yes or no, did canelo plead for a warm up fight at 160 before he had to fight GGGand was it GGG that let that happen, yes or no, did canelo pick the chinnyest WW in khan as a warm up for 160 (obviously no intension of fighting GGG at that stage) yes or no, did canelo and Oscar spruik after the khan fight that Mexicans don't fcuk around and K2 better answer their phone the next day, yes or no, did canelo voluntarily had over his belt to GGG a week later, against every Mexican tradition and belief, yes or no, answer those honestly dunny and remove your head from canelos rectum

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          • #15
            Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
            This is ****** so Oscar gave GGG a 15m offer that ****** Loeffler refused to accept and rolled the dice by letting the Jacobs ppvs come out before taking the deal. Jacobs fight bombed now Oscar is saying that offer is off the table. I'm giving you a new offer that reflects your draw as a ppv fighter and it will be less. If Loeffler again turns down the offer that is his fault. GGG is demanding more money then he clearly is worth. His leverage only drops more if he double downs his first mistake and doesn't take the best offer now because Chavez is going to do amazing ppvs and blow GGG/Jacobs out the water. The offer today will be better then day the Chavez numbers come out.

            K2 refusing to drop weight last year killed the fight. And now they pricing themselves out. They have no one to blame if the fight doesn't happen. Golden Boy ain't running a charity where they should just overpay and give in to the B side demands when he barely does 100k buys in the biggest fight of his career.
            Barely 100k?? 170k is barely 100k. Granted it's not 500k but damn don't just straight up and lie and say that garbage when it was almost 200k. Again, in the grand scheme of things that's really not sh#t but don't be a hater and come up with BS like that to make it alot worse than it was.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Sgtairborne24 View Post
              Dude he got rid of the lineal MW belt so he wouldn't have to fight GGG what the hell are you talking about. That fact alone makes your whole statement complete garbage and nonsense.
              He dumped the belt like any A list ppv star would when the B side was trying to use that belt as leverage in weight and purse negotiations. That was a business move Canelo will get a much better deal now on his terms. He won the belt at 155 he had no intentions of fights at 160 and before he won it loeffler said he had no problems working a catch weight with canelo. Also been saying for years he can make 154 easy as he begged for fights with floyd and manny. He changed his tune the weeks after fight demanding canelo fight only take place at 160 and we see now that weight is worked out that that they are pricing themselves out. Only an idiot would hold on to the belt and let these idiots force a purse bid and lose their bargaining power. The fight will ONLY happen on canelos terms no belt will change that.
              Last edited by bigdunny1; 04-01-2017, 02:39 AM.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Sgtairborne24 View Post
                Barely 100k?? 170k is barely 100k. Granted it's not 500k but damn don't just straight up and lie and say that garbage when it was almost 200k. Again, in the grand scheme of things that's really not sh#t but don't be a hater and come up with BS like that to make it alot worse than it was.
                Numerous reports that the 170k figure is pure BS. 170k is what GGG promoter put out other outlets said the ppv was far less. LA times reported 130-150k. Rick glaser said it didn't do more then 110k and that K2 lied. Regardless what numbers you use the ppv was disappointing and far below what canelo does and way below what everyone is predictions for his fight in may. He has no leverage to demand more money.

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                • #18
                  Bleh I thought this was gonna be an article with some new info. But this guy is just talking about stuff that has already been said and we know of.

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                  • #19
                    No answer to my questions dunny, do I take that as I'm right and your biased

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
                      Can't even make a fight with saunders. Tried to lie and say there was no agreement before the Jacobs fight. Saunders posted the text messages to expose loeffler. But yeah warren, saunders, golden boy, ward all have problems with GGG lying and being difficult to deal with. Mr 154 or 168 is not to blame SMH.


                      calm down the saunders fight will happen no matter how much you pray for it not to. that will only make the ducknelo fight bigger because it will be for the undisputed championship and don't tell me belts don't matter because you were sucking off ginger when he moved back down to fight for a paper belt against the bum smith at 154.

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