Comments Thread For: Here We Go Again: Canelo vs. Golovkin On Hold Again?

[Curt Henning]

there is no need to defend golovkin. Their side isnt the one trying to deflect every other day by issuing press release after press release after press release. 99.9% of the posters here have never even seen a bout contract, but would swear on their mothers life that Golden Boys offer was a "clean" deal, because of course Oscar would never lie or deliberately mislead anyone to help paint his fighter in a better light. No, of course he would never do that. lol.

"but but but $15 mil doe"


gtfoh.......

I never said I believed the offer from Oscar to be "factual"

all im saying is...even when it was floated out there...herds of golovkin fans were insisting it was a terrible deal....that's it...that's all...I didn't say it was real and sent in contract form.....the golovkin fans were up in arms "oh man this is 100 mil fight....this is huge fight man....golovkin deserves close to 45 percent of it".....and you know this happened

don't tell me to GFTOH...im not one of these dummies you think you can talk to like that...I actually know what im talking about

[Shadoww702]

Bat sh it ****** would be to not fight Wade, lose a belt that you've worked to get, and still expect your status as mandatory to Canelo to mean anything.

I could hear you haters now. "Lil g dropped a belt not to fight Wade, but expects Canelo to honor him as a mando? GTFOH Mr 97k"

And you, like the other poster, jump on a comment without reading it's context. I wasn't talking about Canelo "resume" (outweighing his opponents, catchweights, a couple questionable decisions, and a shutout loss), I was talking about Canelo fighting for belts. That, as his resume shows, is a fact

Cool now ggg has a "questionable" decision as well. Let's see how much of a hypocrite you truly are???

Insert your excuses on below???? Dont forget Canelo dropped and bloodied trout.Lara was 10000x more defensive then Jacobs... Floyd and Ward would of put ggg on ****** street also.

Stay ****** my friend

[bigdunny1]

Let's get a few things straight.

Lil g hasn't forced Canelo to do anything.

If someone is going to be forced to do anything, it will be Canelo dictating to Lil g.

This has never been about belts or lineal titles or unified titles.

This has always been about a big fight and the money that comes with it.

When Loeffler and K2 had zero leverage, you heard all sorts of things fly out their mouths when it came to a Canelo fight: Belt or no belt, not a problem. Money, not a big problem just give us the fight. Catchweight, no problem sure we can come down to make the fight.

Then, they thought they had leverage and tried to parlay what they thought they had into a fight on relatively even terms. They thought they could depend on the threat of belts being stripped or Mexican machismo to make Canelo do something ****** and give up a boatload of money to Lil g, who really didn't rate it.

They miscalculated and failed miserably.

And now they may wind up getting an even smaller deal than what they could have gotten had they simply come correct.

EXACTLY. Mr 154 or 168, I make 154 easy, Loeffler days before canelo/cotto saying weight won't be an issue we can negotiate a catchweight to go down for canelo. Then they flip flopped thinking the mandatory for the belt would give them leverage and over played their hand and it blew up in their face. Canelo vacated for business reasons to regain all leverage the fight now has no belt org restrictions or time tables will only happen on canelo's terms. GGG could of dropped weight and got the fight last year but he chose to play a high risk game of poker when everyone knew he had a shyt hand.

[kushking]

there is no need to defend golovkin. Their side isnt the one trying to deflect every other day by issuing press release after press release after press release. 99.9% of the posters here have never even seen a bout contract, but would swear on their mothers life that Golden Boys offer was a "clean" deal, because of course Oscar would never lie or deliberately mislead anyone to help paint his fighter in a better light. No, of course he would never do that. lol.

"but but but $15 mil doe"


gtfoh.......

Dumbass bumnady went on mexican tv the other day & admitted theres been a 15 mil offer,at the same time he repeated his bs about fighting anyone from 154-168,making 154 easily as hes "a small mw" & he also repeated the same bs about deserving & wanting 50%, Loeffler has confirmed the same thing,& Dirty Sanchez says no comment when asked,just like g had been saying"im not a promoter,talk to him," when asked about the offer. Your ****** as can be if you believe sanchez wouldn't be running his diikbeater all over media if it wasn't true. But you gggroupies are a pathetic bunch of :bukkake:

[Curt Henning]

these GGGoons love to berate posters for playing "amateur accountant". its funny to think back on how many times the baby nuts brigade has played that role in the past. convenient amnesia I guess.

[Shadoww702]

I never said I believed the offer from Oscar to be "factual"

all im saying is...even when it was floated out there...herds of golovkin fans were insisting it was a terrible deal....that's it...that's all...I didn't say it was real and sent in contract form.....the golovkin fans were up in arms "oh man this is 100 mil fight....this is huge fight man....golovkin deserves close to 45 percent of it".....and you know this happened

don't tell me to GFTOH...im not one of these dummies you think you can talk to like that...I actually know what im talking about

Please forgive punchdrunk... GGG is balls deep in him and uses him for a sock puppet.

[koolkc107]

this is great...truly

I almost forgot the cardinal rule on boxing boards.
'smart business decisions only matter when they apply favorably to golovkin"

when golovkin is ducking ward? smart business...theres no money in it...ward don't sell. when golovkin is avoiding lara? smart...theres no money in it...lara don't sell. when golovkin is bringing up a welterweight, with one decent win in 30 fights at the weight, its smart cause golovkin made career high payday...

when herds of golovkin fans insisted golovkins share should be more than 15 mil and close to even terms it was just "smart business"...all the amateur accountants were out then Terry!

but when welterweight cotto was parlaying that MW belt into millions with fights against Sergio, geale and canelo ...well he was a "coward"

when a 24-25 year old kid who started a WW, and had no fights at full 160, parlayed that MW belt into fights with cotto and khan(which also made millions)...he was a pansy/coward.

in a perfect world we wouldn't care about purses/shares/ a-b side...but this is part of the game now.....huey lewis said "there aint no perfect world anyway"

so make sure you go scold all the amateur accountants who crunched their numbers when defending golovkin. *****.

^^^^^^^^
THIS!!!!!!!!!!

When folks point out how technically (based on selling power) Lil g probably doesn't deserve as much as Julio Weed Jr, all of a sudden they are bean counters.

But let Lil g fight a welterweight and that makes sense.

See, it's about consistency.

I posted earlier that if there is indeed 10M in Kazakhstan for Lil g to fight Saunders, the hell with what GBP says about not fighting in June.

They are prizefighters, not amateurs.

They fight for money.

And when the difference between what a fighter is actually worth is light years away from what he thinks he is worth is the reason a reason a fight isn't being made that is a problem.

Especially if the fighter bellyaching about money is the same guy parading around saying money is secondary and that the challenges are what it is all about.

If Lil g had come out the gate 4 or 5 years ago saying "I only fight at 160 and I expect to be paid like an A-side for big fights" no one would have any right to have an issue with him now.

But, that isn't how he was hyping himself.

And it is not "hating" to call him on his bullshyt.

[kushking]

Please forgive punchdrunk... GGG is balls deep in him and uses him for a sock puppet.

I only come here to berate the gggroupies because I want him to fight canelo/ward/lara/jacobs & I know that his gggroupies are what allows him to keep ducking, but I see now their house is made of toilet paper because their full of shiiit.

[BigStomps]

...yet he fought Smith "for (a) piece of shet belt", and the WBC is making a commemorative "piece of shet belt" for the Chavez Jr fight. Canelo paid sanctioning fees, even after Cotto didn't and was stripped of a "piece of shet belt", to earn said "piece of shet belt". Canelo asked WBC for the opportunity to defend "piece of shet belt" against Khan, and paid another sanction fee to defend "piece of shet belt". Canelo had some gear made up embossed with ".CA World Champ" on it to show his pride in winning a "piece of shet belt".

Canelo has also expressed interest in fighting for Saunders "piece of shet belt"

Well you got me there. I'm not even gonna argue with you on that. But at the end of the day Canelo dropping that belt was strictly a business move. Why would he let it go to a purse bid when if he did that then g string would have gotten more money than he deserved.. That's the only bargaining chip g string had so now he don't have that anymore. So he can either accept Canelo's terms or he can go back to fighting for two million a fight. Only thing I disagree with Canelo doing and I'll even bash him on that myself is to call g string into the ring after the Khan fight. That's a straight ****** move if he wasn't sure he was gonna fight him next. I seriously don't think he scared at all of g string but Boxing is a business so he gotta do what's best for him and that means getting the best deal and the most money for himself.

[Curt Henning]

^^^^^^^^
THIS!!!!!!!!!!

When folks point out how technically (based on selling power) Lil g probably doesn't deserve as much as Julio Weed Jr, all of a sudden they are bean counters.

But let Lil g fight a welterweight and that makes sense.

See, it's about consistency.

I posted earlier that if there is indeed 10M in Kazakhstan for Lil g to fight Saunders, the hell with what GBP says about not fighting in June.

They are prizefighters, not amateurs.

They fight for money.

And when the difference between what a fighter is actually worth is light years away from what he thinks he is worth is the reason a reason a fight isn't being made that is a problem.

Especially if the fighter bellyaching about money is the same guy parading around saying money is secondary and that the challenges are what it is all about.

If Lil g had come out the gate 4 or 5 years ago saying "I only fight at 160 and I expect to be paid like an A-side for big fights" no one would have any right to have an issue with him now.

But, that isn't how he was hyping himself.

And it is not "hating" to call him on his bullshyt.

yeah...golovkin and his people said whatever he wanted. what he thought everyone wanted to hear. and figured that should be enough to carry him and leave him beyond reproach. that doesn't work for real boxing fans who aren't trying to live vicariously through him

lets not forget how the amateur accountants in the baby nuts brigade told us chavez and froch fights were cool at 168 cause it made money and sense...but ward didn't sell.......were these guys going to be taking a cut of golovkins purses? nope....